Do I divide up Flavors?

[micksf]

If I have three flavors that good on their own at say... Flavor #1 - 10%, Flavor #2 - 05%, Flavor #3 - 15%

Do I add these together and create a 30% mix to add to my NIC/PG/VG mix or divide these up somehow? And if I divide up, do I divide up my tobacco flavor as well or keep that separate at the percentage that I like it on it's own.

 

[Hoosier]

HA! I remember thinking that way.

This is the method I would use in your shoes...

Make a 10ml bottle of each of those 3 recipes.

Take out another bottle and add 1ml from those 3 into the new bottle, shake, taste. Trust me, you'll be amazed, it's like a magic trick. Now take that 3ml bottle and throw it into a cup of hot tap water and take it out every so often and shake it until everything is room temp. and taste it again. Wow, the things you are bound to discover!

Now, after you find out that an even 1/3-1/3-1/3 blend does not taste like you expected, start with the flavor that seemed to be muted before at put in 1.5ml of that and adjust the middle flavor and the one that got boosted beyond expectations to make up the rest of the next 3ml. Taste, quick steep, taste and start again if needed. (There might be a time when an even ratio blend actually worked right, but I've never had it.)

When you find out the blend of these 3 that work, then deconstruct the recipe and record it. Put a star next to it. When mixing it from scratch for the first time make sure the "Base" flavor is put in the bottle first and then the other flavors, then add no-nic base and then nic. If it works this way, underline that star and brag!

 

[micksf]

That's super helpful Hoosier, but now I'm just a little less confused. I understand your testing method, that makes sense and is a great place to start to find how these flavors combine best. But how do I then apply my findings if I'm make a larger bottle of my final product (say 30ml), when I add in my new found flavor combination to my pg/vg/nic?

I've been playing around with the calculators and I'm not sure how I would enter in the batch of combined flavors to the rest of the solution. I guess I'm asking how do I know what percentage to add of my new flavor combination to my pg/vg/nic, or is that another series of tests? Also, I'm assuming you are keeping your tobacco flavor out of the combined flavor test and adding that separately at the percentage that you find best on it's own too, right?

HA! I remember thinking that way.

This is the method I would use in your shoes...

Make a 10ml bottle of each of those 3 recipes.

Take out another bottle and add 1ml from those 3 into the new bottle, shake, taste. Trust me, you'll be amazed, it's like a magic trick. Now take that 3ml bottle and throw it into a cup of hot tap water and take it out every so often and shake it until everything is room temp. and taste it again. Wow, the things you are bound to discover!

Now, after you find out that an even 1/3-1/3-1/3 blend does not taste like you expected, start with the flavor that seemed to be muted before at put in 1.5ml of that and adjust the middle flavor and the one that got boosted beyond expectations to make up the rest of the next 3ml. Taste, quick steep, taste and start again if needed. (There might be a time when an even ratio blend actually worked right, but I've never had it.)

When you find out the blend of these 3 that work, then deconstruct the recipe and record it. Put a star next to it. When mixing it from scratch for the first time make sure the "Base" flavor is put in the bottle first and then the other flavors, then add no-nic base and then nic. If it works this way, underline that star and brag!

 

[simplyme82]

ha! I remember thinking that way.

This is the method i would use in your shoes...

Make a 10ml bottle of each of those 3 recipes.

Take out another bottle and add 1ml from those 3 into the new bottle, shake, taste. Trust me, you'll be amazed, it's like a magic trick. Now take that 3ml bottle and throw it into a cup of hot tap water and take it out every so often and shake it until everything is room temp. And taste it again. Wow, the things you are bound to discover!

Now, after you find out that an even 1/3-1/3-1/3 blend does not taste like you expected, start with the flavor that seemed to be muted before at put in 1.5ml of that and adjust the middle flavor and the one that got boosted beyond expectations to make up the rest of the next 3ml. Taste, quick steep, taste and start again if needed. (there might be a time when an even ratio blend actually worked right, but i've never had it.)

when you find out the blend of these 3 that work, then deconstruct the recipe and record it. Put a star next to it. When mixing it from scratch for the first time make sure the "base" flavor is put in the bottle first and then the other flavors, then add no-nic base and then nic. If it works this way, underline that star and brag!

holy mad scientist batman!

 

[Hoosier]

I assumed you put them all in. No sense blending only part as that would just send you back to the beginning.

So, #1=10%, #2=5%, and #3=15%, so in a 10ml bottle #1=1ml, #2=0.5ml, and #3=1.5ml. If the 1/3 of each equal did just happen to work out I'll deconstruct it. (unlikely, but not impossible and I need an example of deconstructing a recipe based on this technique)

I have a 3ml bottle that has 0.1ml of #1, 0.05ml of #2 and 0.15ml of #3. (I hope the math behind that is obvious to everyone because 1ml of a 10ml bottle was used to keep the math obvious.) I add those up and it is 0.3ml in 3ml for 10% total flavoring. The flavor consists of 33.3% (.1/.3*100) of #1, 16.7% of #2, and 50% of #3.

That is the way I think of/do this stuff. If I further confused you, you may have to ask someone who is a better teacher to step in and explain my odd brain's ramblings.

 

[Hoosier]

holy mad scientist batman!

Don't make me get the Glitter Ray Gun^TM out to shut you up!

(It turns clothes into glitter and makes arguements disappear in the process. I've very proud of it...)

 

[Str8V8ping]

HA! I remember thinking that way.

This is the method I would use in your shoes...

Make a 10ml bottle of each of those 3 recipes.

Take out another bottle and add 1ml from those 3 into the new bottle, shake, taste. Trust me, you'll be amazed, it's like a magic trick. Now take that 3ml bottle and throw it into a cup of hot tap water and take it out every so often and shake it until everything is room temp. and taste it again. Wow, the things you are bound to discover!

Now, after you find out that an even 1/3-1/3-1/3 blend does not taste like you expected, start with the flavor that seemed to be muted before at put in 1.5ml of that and adjust the middle flavor and the one that got boosted beyond expectations to make up the rest of the next 3ml. Taste, quick steep, taste and start again if needed. (There might be a time when an even ratio blend actually worked right, but I've never had it.)

When you find out the blend of these 3 that work, then deconstruct the recipe and record it. Put a star next to it. When mixing it from scratch for the first time make sure the "Base" flavor is put in the bottle first and then the other flavors, then add no-nic base and then nic. If it works this way, underline that star and brag!

This man know his DIY'ing . My juices got so much better when i started doing this .

 

[Shilo]

Hoosier is definately your man for tobacco flavors answers

 

[Hoosier]

This man know his DIY'ing . My juices got so much better when i started doing this .

Shhhh! They'll all want in this padded room of you go saying how good it is in here!

 

[micksf]

gotcha, now that makes sense, thanks H!

I assumed you put them all in. No sense blending only part as that would just send you back to the beginning.