Do I * have* to build my own attys to stay satisfied ...

[peacepipe]

I've been vaping since 12/09 and I've done it ALL up till now. So, here goes my question; Do I have to buy an genesis style atty to even consider myself relevant anymore? Am I not tasting my juice properly (Avid Vapor attys Cisco yadda yadda)?

I watched the videos on the Peter K method for the genny, and the machine screw method for Vivi rebuilds and feel like I can do it in my sleep. But....I don't WANT to do that ......

Here's my point, when I watch video after video on YouTube of dudes saying "OMG! You have never tasted your juice until you use a rebuildable genny!" I feel like I need to order one immediately AND I think these guys are way more motivated to get flavor and quality than just to save a few bucks.

 

[Kanj.nguyen]

The short answer is yes. A well set up genny can help you taste very subtle tones in juices.

And also yes, its really not about saving money. Especially if you look at people buying $150 gennies.

However, you dont have to do anything you dont want to.

 

[tj99959]

Well ya .. sorta

There are a lot of factors involved #1 is fear of what the FDA will do, and as a result there has been the interest in DIY products.
To be honest tho', while I do like RBA's, I don't care for gennies or hybrid's (lack versatility). Quite frankly while there are pre-made wicks & coils that cost less than a buck and last for a month, what could be cheaper (or easier) than a RBA.

 

[sawlight]

LMAO! Gennies can give a nice vape, but I honestly can't tell a difference in flavor between them and a good carto tank setup, or a good dripping atty.

 

[Topwater Elvis]

No I don't think so, other folks opinions don't influence my satisfaction level on any subject.

To me vaping isn't a hobby, I do not have the time or the desire to fiddle, tinker or fool with RBanything, leaky or flooding tanks, inconsistent wicking or anything that might come apart or break easily.
I've tried my favorite juices through just about every delivery device available, I know what I like best and that is all that matters to me.

I have zero interest in keeping up with the Jones.

 

[aPandaz]

You don't have to, but have you tried one? I got tired of muted flavors on my carto tanks and a burnt taste on clearomizers and vivis. I am lucky enough to have a shops nearby that let me try a Cobra genny and IGO-L dripper. After that I knew I wanted a genesis style atomizer. I don't fiddling with things since it's something I actually like doing. So rebuildables are not a problem for me. If you don't feel like you have a problem with your juice delivery, don't change it.

 

[peacepipe]

I haven't tried one. I'm going on what I see people say on YouTube and this forum. It seems to me that it started out as a way to save money on attys by making your own then it turned into vaping nirvana serendipitously.

The fact that that became THE only way to get to vaping heaven ticks me off because venders that USED to make awesome attys no longer do. Nobody can tell me that the Joytechs old gold-band attys have maintained their quality, or Cisco or Ikenvape, etc. What happened to me is that all the good attys are now garbage and we must make are own to get any resemblance of an OK vape.

My question is why, why have all the manufactures of attys insist on making such inferior products? I mean are my choices an atty that is between 6-9 dollars that is bound to be crap or an HH.357 that will cost 3x that and work the way an atty three years ago DID work for 8 bucks. What happened?

We did this to ourselves we forced the price point so low it took quality along with it and now we have to make our own attys because we simply didn't demand better ones that god FORBID cost a little over the ten dollar mark.

 

[soul05]

you dont NEED one. i recently picked up a did clone to see what the hype was about. i got frustrated after getting hot spots, put it down and came back to it a few hours later and got it working better. i still prefer my carto tanks at this moment.

just remember, taste is subjective...

 

[lulu836]

There are far more vapers NOT keeping up with the Jones family than are. I have zero interest in manually making attys or anything else connected with vaping. If I can't buy it and then toss it when I'm done with it then buy another then I have no use for it. I seriously doubt that the difference in taste between a whiz-bang super shiny, engraved setup and an everyday normal battery and clearomizer is discernable to a vast majority of vapers. Use what satisfies your taste and keeps you off the stinkies and ignore the Jones family.

 

[Omnipanzer]

I just got a DID and it seems like a pain in the .... to me over my Vivi. It's a clone I got it on sale for cheap and I have it now so there's no reason for me to not go ahead and see if I can't get it to work as I'd like.

 

[Plumes.91]

i rebuild to save money, and its a great vape. tailored to your wants.
the vape from SS mesh gives a cleaner flavor than cartomizers and silica wick.
you can tell when you switch from one to the other. yup.

 

[Kanj.nguyen]

Its really not about keeping up with anybody. I have a DID clone i got for as cheap as a Vivi Nova, and use it on an eGo. Its just a better vape, really. I love my Novas, but for the prices at which RBAs are offered these days, i ll use them over Novas any day of the week.

Personally i dont buy into the hype about expensive RBAs. I cant imagine a ZAP tatsing all that much better than my AGA, if both are set up right. I mean come on, the concept is the same, just how much improvement can you put in a ZAP to charge that much more?

With all that said though, when i go home im gonna get my carpenter + mechanics friends to build me a couple of nice ePipes, just for the aesthetics

 

[Thompson]

It's all preference, so you're the only one who can say if your missing something. If your current vape setup works for you, then it doesn't matter.

That said my coil results are more consistent than any replaceable heads I ever purchased. It for me has made the whole experience better because the control I have over the vaping end.

Faxed in on the Mojo Wire

 

[Johnnie Price]

Eh. I'm perfectly happy with my cartos and my dipping 108's. But you (the OP) have been doing this far longer than I have, so I'd say it's up to you to decide if you're dissatisfied with what you have.

 

[DiNet]

I think dripping delivers same or better flavor without any hassle or mental breakdowns.

 

[WattWick]

I'm new at vaping. One month in now, and I've built my first semi-successful Aga-T setup. Not going for that perfect flavor or leet status. I just don't like the taste of carto-filler, nor the thought of inhaling fibers of it. I've tried a bunch of the fabled best-clearo-ever. All of them seem to lack consistency in terms of QC and providing a fulfilling vape every time, or even for several minutes at a time. Also, I don't like all the plastics involved. Some say you can re-wick and built better coils, but why pay to be a factory worker for a product that don't work as intended?

So, rather than having to clean/dryburn/break-in or generally fiddle around with clearos when I just want to vape, I've decided to go for steel&pyrex RBAs. This way I can set up a couple and always have something that just works, and decide when I want to fiddle. Overall, I think total fiddle-time is less with RBAs than bad QC clearos.

I don't want another hobby as a beta tester/bug fixer/burnt plastic inhaler.So I chose the RBAs. Just my 2c. Sorry about long post.

 

[serenity21899]

LMAO. I do not build, and they let me stay.

 

[grandmato5]

Nope, no reason you have to build your own attys to stay satisfied or relevant I do like the flavor of my juice with my ss wicks I've built on my genesis style attys but dripping with my good old fashion 510 attys is still my favorite juice delivery system to use .

 

[EddieAdams]

Valid point. I'm new but, a fast learner. Have never tried any of those old cartomizers you've mentioned. I'll say that my Kanger EVOD gives a nicer vape than the Ego C replaceable. Only above 3.8v. It's pretty cheap and in that price range. Heads are cheap enough to not rebuild but, very easy to do so. Could be warmer vapor though. Very affected by air temperature.
I have aga t2 on the way and and will be very honest in whether or not it's that much better or even worth it. I think people naturally like to justify their investment. I just want to know if it's that much of a difference...

 

[WattWick]

I think people naturally like to justify their investment. I just want to know if it's that much of a difference...

Not to argue, but if I could really justify the investment of any of my clearos or carto tanks, I wouldn't be looking at RBAs at all. I could go on about clearos and cartos. Short version: check this about i.e Kangers. Guess which ones I got... However, for me it's mainly about plastics. Paying 2-3x the price to vape from glass and steel is perfectly fine to me. Added bonus is lower costs of replacement wicks and coils. You won't see me with a $150 atty, tho.

Edit: I realize you're probably thinking more of people finding ways to justify their $150 atties.