Waiting for some 18350's coming today in vapemail before I head to work. Do I need to charge them or can I just start using them right away?
Do I need to charge brand new batteries prior to using them?
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My guess is that they'll arrive half full. Charge them if you can, use them right away if you must. (Assuming that you're using a mod with undervoltage protection.)
(eagerly awaiting the answer!)
My initial thought is that yes, they do need charging when you get them. But I'm kinda new to all this myself, so I don't really know for sure; I'm basing that initial thought solely on other rechargeable batteries I've bought. When both of my iTaste vv3's got here, I plugged them in, and they were charged up into the green zone, but still needed a bit to be fully charged.
So now I'm waiting with you, for some long-time vaper to come along and settle this once and for all.
Andria
Most batteries come charged enough to vape for a little while, but the best thing to do is charge before use in order to ensure the battery is good and you can gauge the run time.
Remember batteries can be full of empty where they will never charge if they sit empty to long and they can be full of charge where they will over charge when charged.
Remember batteries can be full of empty where they will never charge if they sit empty to long and they can be full of charge where they will over charge when charged.
On my RC lipos they usually come in storage mode, 3.6-3.8 v per cell. I would assume these come the same way, charge them before using. If you're going to store them for longer than 3 weeks I would discharge them down to 3.8v
Whenever I've gotten batteries for anything they've come about 25 percent charged upon arrival. Its not good for them to sit totally dead for long. I've always been told to charge them well before using them. Then again when I got my provari I was too excited to wait.
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IMO, Li-ion batteries do not have 'memory', nor any other 'funkyness' related to first charge. I don't let my batteries go below about 3.5V if I can help it, but I'm using mechanical mods and one reason I do that is it's hard to 'catch' a battery at 3.5V if you're aiming for that in that application.
In a regulated mod I would have no issue putting a battery received at 3.6V into use. It won't last long though, so if I could I would charge it first. But I don't think using it without charging it first would do anything bad to it in any way.
Now that's my opinion and it's from the reading I've done on batteries, not testing I've done, so take it with a grain of salt
IMO, Li-ion batteries do not have 'memory', nor any other 'funkyness' related to first charge. I don't let my batteries go below about 3.5V if I can help it, but I'm using mechanical mods and one reason I do that is it's hard to 'catch' a battery at 3.5V if you're aiming for that in that application.
In a regulated mod I would have no issue putting a battery received at 3.6V into use. It won't last long though, so if I could I would charge it first. But I don't think using it without charging it first would do anything bad to it in any way.
Now that's my opinion and it's from the reading I've done on batteries, not testing I've done, so take it with a grain of salt
Ok, but what about Li-mn batteries? That's what most of these 18350s and 18650s are. It's the kind they say are 'safer chemistry'.
Andria
Full of empty is a sports term, like the center fielder lunged for the ball but came up with a hand full of empty. I'm no more fond of that on than bread that is full of goodness, but there it is.
Well, I got the package as I was leaving, so I brought it to work, charged them at my desk, and am now enjoying my new shorty configuration.
On another note - Anyone got experience with this charger?
Anything I need to know about it? I tried to charge my coworkers iphone using the USB port, but it didn't seem to work.
I'll RTFM when I get home. ;-)
On another note - Anyone got experience with this charger?
Anything I need to know about it? I tried to charge my coworkers iphone using the USB port, but it didn't seem to work.
I'll RTFM when I get home. ;-)
If this is the One you have...
... It is a Nice Charger.
For the USB Out, it say that it has "DC5V 1A USB output connector are compatible with most portable consumer electronics."
Unfortunately, iPhones need 2 Amps @ 5 Volts. No Problem charging just about Anything else in the Known Universe. But not an iPhone.
... It is a Nice Charger.
For the USB Out, it say that it has "DC5V 1A USB output connector are compatible with most portable consumer electronics."
Unfortunately, iPhones need 2 Amps @ 5 Volts. No Problem charging just about Anything else in the Known Universe. But not an iPhone.
Thanks, I should've read the manual. ;-) I suppose I'm lucky I didn't ruin anything. At any rate I had my coworker use a readily available USB port on one of the many other devices around the office.
The iPhones are Funny. In that they are About the Only device that Needs the Higher Amps.
It's Almost like they Planned it that way. LOL
Li-ion batteries come in different chemistry combinations. Battery University has a good list of them all on this page with info on them. They are all lithium ion though and except for one type, they can all be handled the same way.
The exception is the Lithium Iron Phosphate, LiFePO, which has a nominal voltage of 3.3 instead of 3.7 like the others do. They need a higher voltage Li-ion charger.
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