do i really need a new mod?

[im_coryy]

hello ecf! so ive been thinking lately about buying a new mod. ive been looking at two mods, the king and the gp paps. currently i have a brass nemesis and a stainless steel nemesis. the brass nemesis has two silver plated contatct pins while the stainless steel has a silver plated contact and i believe copper or brass pin. well i started to think, a mod is just a tube and two contacts. will buying a new mod even make a difference in my vape experience side from aesthetics? isnt the only thing that really effects how good or bad your vape, is the atomizer you use and the build you have inside? so technically buying a new mod makes no difference aside from wow i have a new metal tube? if thats the case i could save the money and just keep using my nemesis that works perfectly fine correct? if buying a new mod does make a difference then does anyone have experience with the two mods listed and or know of a good mod i should buy?

king
https://www.fasttech.com/products/3027/10006089/1474200

gp paps
https://www.fasttech.com/products/1677404

 

[8dragon9]

That king mod seems very similiar to a chi-you. I can tell you from experience a mod is not just a metal tube, the build, contacks, throw etc all factor in not only the vape itself, but your enjoyment of it. I used a nemesis for a good while before playing with other mods and have experienced first hand the difference. For example the nemesis vs chi-you with the exact same topper, and battery installed, the chi-you has a harder hit, and more vapor production plus I like the switch throw more. My cronus mod hits even harder than the chi-you (and is my current all day every day) along with a very lovely switch throw, and better hand feel. So in short, maybe you don't NEED another mod, but it really does make a difference as you upgrade, and move up into different styles...

Reo-vs-Provari team you may proceed

 

[Tangaroav]

IMO, as far as tube mechs, the differences in vaping quality comes a whole lot more from the atty attached to it. A good dripping atty makes a huge difference.

I got a few mechanical mods from Fasttech. They were cheap to buy and were a good learning experience. Some were more confortable to hold, some had better/easier to operate switches, most had adjustable firing pins. Using the same atty on each of them, the differences in vapor quality were not detectable as far as I was concerned.

I now use VV and VW mods most of the time. My new purchase is a REO VV. that I did not yet received.

 

[im_coryy]

how is your chi you? one thing im worried about is the reverse threading. some people are saying that the king mod (as well as the chi you) are not reverse threaded making for an annoying experience.

 

[porkchopbun]

I've owned several clones, and few authentic...the clone manufactures have gotten it very well down to science after few iterations on the older mods. The newer ones will have their bugs and if it's popular enough, they'll fix them in the next iteration.

If you're just looking to vape, you're fine with you equipment...perfect your building skills more etc...or try different atties for flavor versus fog machines.

I've pretty much given a lot of mods away to help buddies to get over the hump and e-go/CE-4 devices wasn't cutting it for them. I only use select few and sometimes I can't even tell the difference, it's more aesthetics and how well the firing button works.

If you're tight on cash, then no...if you just want a new toy to play with and it will give you few weeks of "oh this thing hits so much harder than my previous" mod..then sure why not. "

 

[8dragon9]

how is your chi you? one thing im worried about is the reverse threading. some people are saying that the king mod (as well as the chi you) are not reverse threaded making for an annoying experience.

Depends on your definition of annoyance. after about my third battery change I got it down pat, you just tighten by holding on to both the lock ring, and switch and it tightens/loosens without an issue. For me personally there has not been any annoyance to it. I have roughly 10 or so mods, the chi-you is one of the only ones I regularly cycle through or use. The style of pins in mine are the bolt style ends so it stays tight without backing out like the nemesis does. If you are looking for simple, reliable, and a good vape I suggest a titan/cronus

 

[porkchopbun]

how is your chi you? one thing im worried about is the reverse threading. some people are saying that the king mod (as well as the chi you) are not reverse threaded making for an annoying experience.

That is one of my mods (Chi you) I've retired cause of that, I didn't give that one away. I did have the new King II clone...the button is very well designed and it hit very well. On the Chi you, when it did work, it also perform very well, very well built except for the pain the ... firing button.

 

[skoony]

"come on,come on! you must spend the money now!"
quote from Arnold to the predator,from the movie Predator,1987.

regards
mike

 

[AtherisDubs]

If your current mods are working for you and you're not into the whole sub-ohming/cloudchasing thing, then no you don't really need a new mod.

There is what's called voltage drop which is a reduction in the voltage that comes from resistance in the path from your battery to your coils. Lower quality metals used in the construction of the mod, mainly the pins in the button and top pin, will lead to a higher voltage drop compared to the higher quality materials (stainless steel vs copper vs gold plated, etc.) used in the higher end mods. Springs in the button and pin are another thing that leads to voltage drop as when they're compressed are basically another set of coils for current to run through, so a mod with magnets in the switch have a lower voltage drop than the same mod with a spring.

 

[DoubleEwe]

I only have one mech mod at the moment (a Tree of Life SS clone) and the only reason that I have ordered another mech mod is because I am finding it more and more annoying when it comes to changing from using a tank to using a dripper.
The constant unscrewing, adjusting the pin, screwing it back on, finding it rattles, correcting the rattle etc etc.
Having one mech mod for each atty is the way to go. (I will get some more mech mods soon)

On a side note, it does have the reverse threading locking ring and I have no problems with it, other than sometimes when unlocking I will inadvertently unscrew the bottom contact pin slightly and make the switch throw longer. (easy to remedy though)

Cleaning the copper contacts with salt & lemon juice also makes sure it stays hitting as hard as it can.

 

[im_coryy]

i am trying to blow the biggest clouds i can. i wouldnt call it cloud chasing but im cloud chasing. the bigger the clouds the more nic is absorbed and itll give me a wonderful buzz first thing in the morning, which is what im looking for. what mods would you recommend that has the lowest voltage drop? my nemesis has magnets.

 

[Rule62]

i am trying to blow the biggest clouds i can. i wouldnt call it cloud chasing but im cloud chasing. the bigger the clouds the more nic is absorbed and itll give me a wonderful buzz first thing in the morning, which is what im looking for. what mods would you recommend that has the lowest voltage drop? my nemesis has magnets.

The magnets really have nothing to do with it. They are not part of the circuit.

 

[joeybear]

I have both and they're both great. Remember...metal tube with a battery inside and 510 connector. As long as the contacts are good, they mostly work pretty close to the same

 

[coalyard]

What a silly question. Of course you need a new mod!

 

[Rule62]

I asked myself the same question about 25 mods ago.

 

[RIMP]

Probably no........but don't let that stop you It'll make me feel better about all the money I've spent on mods

 

[GinnyTx]

i am trying to blow the biggest clouds i can. i wouldnt call it cloud chasing but im cloud chasing. the bigger the clouds the more nic is absorbed and itll give me a wonderful buzz first thing in the morning, which is what im looking for. what mods would you recommend that has the lowest voltage drop? my nemesis has magnets.

I use a higher content nicotine with my morning coffee (I'm on a 6mg for my "all day vape" liquids and my with coffee Queenside's a 12mg)
and staying completely out of the "mod" conversation, I gave mine to my son in law, I didn't want to fiddle with a battery change or coils (at this time, that may change of course)

ok carry on...

 

[AtherisDubs]

i am trying to blow the biggest clouds i can. i wouldnt call it cloud chasing but im cloud chasing. the bigger the clouds the more nic is absorbed and itll give me a wonderful buzz first thing in the morning, which is what im looking for. what mods would you recommend that has the lowest voltage drop? my nemesis has magnets.

Honestly your coil build is going to have a larger impact on the volume of smoke you're producing. Power = [Voltage^2]/[Resistance] Let's look at the calculations of how this happens shall we. Assume you have 2, devices 1 is the ideal PV with 0 voltage drop and the other has a voltage drop of ~0.5 V. We're using the standard Sony VTC's (always vape with the safest batteries!) with a charged voltage of 4.2 V and a 1 ohm coil. Device 1 produces a power of 17.64 W and device 2 produces a power of 13.69 W. This results in a power drop of ~4 Watts. Next we try a 0.5 ohm coil in our devices. Device 1 produces a power of 35.28 W and device 2 produces a power of 27.38 W, so you see that even though device 2 had a reduction of power from the voltage drop, changing the resistance of our coils would produces much more power than buying the latest and greatest mod.
[edited for spelling]

 

[im_coryy]

yes i try to build duel coils at .03 ohms! i dont know the coltage drop of my nemesis however i use a tobh until i receive the stillare. the only only factor i can think of is airflow control. my clous are decent but i want bigger clouds.

 

[Susan~S]

yes i try to build duel coils at .03 ohms! i dont know the coltage drop of my nemesis however i use a tobh until i receive the stillare. the only only factor i can think of is airflow control. my clous are decent but i want bigger clouds.

Bigger clouds are not going to get you what you say you are looking for.