Do you consider yourself 'off of tobacco' and 'tobacco free' now that you vape?
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I am tobacco-free. Why? Because nicotine is a just chemical compound. Doesn't matter where it came from, and it's not the exclusive realm of the tobacco plant.
Do you hear anyone calling a ...... addict a "poppy plant user"?
Do you hear anyone calling a ...... addict a "poppy plant user"?
I consider myself as a "non smoker". The way I look at it...do you all drink coffee or drink soda? If you went to decaf would you consider yourself a non coffee or soda drinker?
I asked my doctor this once.....( because I never knew how to fill 0ut forms)
He said I am a non-smoker.
I use nicotine replacement therapy
He said I am a non-smoker.
I use nicotine replacement therapy
I could give a rats .........yes, no..who cares, maybe, could be. To me, it matters not.
I no longer smoke and no matter how you spell it, I..... n o..... l o n g e r..... s m o k e. If someone can't comprehend and understand what that means, I'm getting far away from them..and fast.
I no longer smoke and no matter how you spell it, I..... n o..... l o n g e r..... s m o k e. If someone can't comprehend and understand what that means, I'm getting far away from them..and fast.
Once again, I UNDERSTAND THAT VAPERS ARE NON SMOKERS. THAT IS NOT THE QUESTION.
I dont get why its so hard for some people to answer a simple yes or no question.
Either youre still a tobacco user or youre not. Which is it?
I dont get why its so hard for some people to answer a simple yes or no question.
Either youre still a tobacco user or youre not. Which is it?
Because it's a context-dependent question and therefore requires explanation and a little bit of nuance to answer.
Not that simple, but if you insist on making something a bit nuanced into a binary data point, then you're making people give a not-completely-accurate answer, whichever way they answer.
Im not really. It comes down to this: Is using nicotine in E-juice form considered using tobacco in your opinion? I dont see how the context can be misinterpreted.
I say "no" - not a tobacco user. I go by this definition:
An electronic cigarette, e-cigarette or vapor cigarette, is a battery-powered device that provides inhaled doses of nicotine or non-nicotine vaporized solution. It is an alternative to smoked tobacco products, such as a cigarette. In addition to nicotine delivery, the vapor also provides a flavor and physical sensation similar to that of inhaled tobacco smoke, although there is no tobacco, combustion or smoke present.
An electronic cigarette, e-cigarette or vapor cigarette, is a battery-powered device that provides inhaled doses of nicotine or non-nicotine vaporized solution. It is an alternative to smoked tobacco products, such as a cigarette. In addition to nicotine delivery, the vapor also provides a flavor and physical sensation similar to that of inhaled tobacco smoke, although there is no tobacco, combustion or smoke present.
Most people switched away from using tobacco due to the harmful effects of inhaling tobacco SMOKE. Your question seems to me to be rather like asking if a water drinker consumes soda pop, since sodas are composed largely of water.
I consider myself off tobacco, yes. But I don't really consider myself a non smoker. I don't smoke cigarettes anymore, but vaping is so much like smoking in the physical act of it, and I get nicotine from it, that I would feel like a bit of a fraud referring to myself as a non smoker.
But, Supertaper, HOW can you call it smoking when there's NO smoke? You're not the first to express those thoughts. But, repetition isn't convincing me that something is there which isn't there.
Not wanting SMOKE is the reason for vaping, after all. It isn't the nicotine which earned cigarettes theiir nickname, coffin nails.
Not wanting SMOKE is the reason for vaping, after all. It isn't the nicotine which earned cigarettes theiir nickname, coffin nails.
Yes, I am tobacco free.
My nicotine could be made in a laboratory for all I know. I do not use tobacco.
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My nicotine could be made in a laboratory for all I know. I do not use tobacco.
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Well see, that's a bit of a dilemma for me. I don't call it smoking. I actually don't smoke, but while I hated all the negative parts of smoking, I really enjoyed the act of smoking. I guess I consider what I do now faux smoking. 
I have been thinking about this a lot lately. Last Wed, was 2 weeks smoke free for me, and I was pretty proud of that so I put something on my facebook about it. Up til then, only my close family and my best friend knew. As so many people were commenting on it, and saying how happy and proud they were, I started to feel as though I was cheating somehow. It was very weird and unexpected. I discussed it with my best friend and my mom, and they both told me basically the same thing. "get over it. you've done something really good for yourself, something hard, just be proud."
I finally came to the conclusion, that if I were using the patch, or gum, no one would be thinking that I hadn't actually quit smoking, not even me. So really the only difference is that I'm not having a hard time, because I'm vaping instead of sticking a patch on, or chewing a piece of gum. I eventually realized that I actually felt like I hadn't quit smoking because I wasn't suffering enough. How silly is that? But even knowing it's silly, I haven't quite managed to shake the feeling.
I have been thinking about this a lot lately. Last Wed, was 2 weeks smoke free for me, and I was pretty proud of that so I put something on my facebook about it. Up til then, only my close family and my best friend knew. As so many people were commenting on it, and saying how happy and proud they were, I started to feel as though I was cheating somehow. It was very weird and unexpected. I discussed it with my best friend and my mom, and they both told me basically the same thing. "get over it. you've done something really good for yourself, something hard, just be proud."
I finally came to the conclusion, that if I were using the patch, or gum, no one would be thinking that I hadn't actually quit smoking, not even me. So really the only difference is that I'm not having a hard time, because I'm vaping instead of sticking a patch on, or chewing a piece of gum. I eventually realized that I actually felt like I hadn't quit smoking because I wasn't suffering enough. How silly is that? But even knowing it's silly, I haven't quite managed to shake the feeling.
Supertaper: Thanks for the clarification. And, I understand completely. It's been a year since I stood in your shoes and sometimes I forget how it felt. I was literally stunned to realize that I hadn't smoked a cigarette in days, weeks ... finally months went by ... without any suffering. It still amazes me when I stop to think about it.
The fact that you can satisfy the long term habit (mine was 35+ years) of the physical act of smoking, without most of the harmful effects of inhaling tobacco smoke, makes winning the battle SO much easier.
Oh, and of course, there's the nicotine too. But, the smoke is the worst part, and we're avoiding that.
That's why I say, no smoke = not smoking.
The fact that you can satisfy the long term habit (mine was 35+ years) of the physical act of smoking, without most of the harmful effects of inhaling tobacco smoke, makes winning the battle SO much easier.
Oh, and of course, there's the nicotine too. But, the smoke is the worst part, and we're avoiding that.
That's why I say, no smoke = not smoking.
I understand both sides of the debate but I, personally, am proud to say I'm an ex-smoker and tobacco free Vaping has saved/greatly improved my quality of life, is thoroughly enjoyable and satisfies my nic addiction, as well as the hand-to-mouth thing To me, vaping is an addicts dream cuz you get what your body needs and it doesn't hurt you or anyone else(at least, I hope so!)
Vaping has saved/greatly improved my quality of life, is thoroughly enjoyable and satisfies my nic addiction, as well as the hand-to-mouth thing To me, vaping is an addicts dream cuz you get what your body needs and it doesn't hurt you or anyone else(at least, I hope so!)- Status
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