There are some:
Johnson's Creek (serious lab operation and testing available), Mountain Oak Vapor (posted test results), Vaperite, Aromaejuice (lab visits available on request) Ahlusion (ISO 9001 certified) and I am sure there are others.
Do you feel comfortable with dealers that mix their own eliquid?
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There are some:
Johnson's Creek (serious lab operation and testing available), Mountain Oak Vapor (posted test results), Vaperite, Aromaejuice (lab visits available on request) Ahlusion (ISO 9001 certified) and I am sure there are others.
If you're referring to me, I wasn't disturbed. Merely confused, since you didn't provide enough information about the context of your query. I wasn't trying to be nasty.
The best way to be assured of the cleanliness of your juice (or at least knowing that any contaminants are strictly your own) is to DIY. But I realize that it's not an option for everybody.
There isn't a mass production means of making e-liquid as far as I know. There aren't machines to manually do this. It's all being done more or less by hand. I don't know how most B&Ms do it, but *MY* local shop A buys dekang by the boatload and marks it up ridiculously, and local shop B buys at least some in huge bottles, and rebottles it themselves. They did this in front of me, once. Without so much as a spritz of hand sanitizer. Last time i bought anything there.
All you can really do is make your choices carefully, and do your homework here on ECF. Those in the know have already posted what they know. Me? I don't have to worry about it anymore.
Good luck, OP.
The best way to be assured of the cleanliness of your juice (or at least knowing that any contaminants are strictly your own) is to DIY. But I realize that it's not an option for everybody.
There isn't a mass production means of making e-liquid as far as I know. There aren't machines to manually do this. It's all being done more or less by hand. I don't know how most B&Ms do it, but *MY* local shop A buys dekang by the boatload and marks it up ridiculously, and local shop B buys at least some in huge bottles, and rebottles it themselves. They did this in front of me, once. Without so much as a spritz of hand sanitizer. Last time i bought anything there.
All you can really do is make your choices carefully, and do your homework here on ECF. Those in the know have already posted what they know. Me? I don't have to worry about it anymore.
Good luck, OP.
Ever grab a hotdog from a Quick Stop or Circle K? How about a drink from there? Do you know when they cleaned the machines or spouts? Have you ever been to that mom and pop shop you ordered your pizza from? Have you ever been in the back at a Sub shop where they chop all the stuff in those bins they put on your bread? How about that Chinese buffet... been in the kitchen there? Is someone standing by 24/7 inspecting and watching employees prepare your food? Ever watch Gordon Ramsey's Kitchen Nightmares? Sometimes you just have to do the best you can.
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Don't ever eat off of a roller grill. those things are a pain in the ... to get clean even if you approach it with the best of intentions rather than minimum wage apathy.
Totally ot but I worked at a Woolworth's lunch counter *yes..this was a long..long..very long time ago* with a roller grill that I personally cleaned every evening and it was not incredibly difficult, and I can tell you, we kept the place immaculate. The 7-11, maybe not so much.
Did you say Woolworth? OMG!
Man, I remember when my grandmother used to take me take me there. Great memories.
I'm not bashing anyone. And I said nothing about their prices being bad. I order from MtBaker all the time.. more so for accessories but I used them ONLY as an example. There were plenty other questionable reviews listed on said magazine's site.
Not every new juice company is going to have the cash to start with a stainless steel "lab", so should they be forbiden from the industry?
Because they dont fit the mold of the new regulitory body , on top of the FDA's soon regulation, just like a pizza shop, cant we trust them?
Weed the ones out that dont fit with lack of patronage, the word will spread fast enough, we are fighting regulation from the FDA but its ok from AEMSA? Because they say theyre one of us? There is plenty of time for regulation from all over..
Because they dont fit the mold of the new regulitory body , on top of the FDA's soon regulation, just like a pizza shop, cant we trust them?
Weed the ones out that dont fit with lack of patronage, the word will spread fast enough, we are fighting regulation from the FDA but its ok from AEMSA? Because they say theyre one of us? There is plenty of time for regulation from all over..
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You have a point there about the fact that none actually have been certified yet. What I found interesting in reading their standards is the fact that there could be a standard for the facility in support of the OP question. Other level of standards may be applied that I don't know of, I am a noob after all. I am convince that a good number of vendor uses good process around juice mixing and packaging. But I also suspect that there is also the entirely opposite where there may be no regard at all for contamination or quality control.
At least providing visibility in their process (mixing lab, packaging, quality control) reduces the uncertainty around juice production.
Franki you may want to look into the DIY threads it very simple and then once you learn you will feel more comfortable in what goes into your e-liquid if you eventually go that route.
Also you will be surprised how cheap it cost.
Also you will be surprised how cheap it cost.
That's actually a great idea. And you bet I'm going to look into it. The links posted by Mr. Mann are very helpful too, thanks for that.
I'm not sure I would compare pizza shops and woolworth's to this? (wow the flashbacks, yeah spent much of my pre-teen/teen days playing pinball at my local neighborhood woolworth's. I kicked ... on those old pre-digital machines.) At least food poisoning comes and it goes, where some contaminants can remain in your system for a long long time.
At a glance, the manufacturing standards were okay. Honestly I don't know enough to speak intelligently about the details of proper manufacturing processes. I trust my go-to vendor based on two eyewitness accounts of the facility.
My problem with AEMSA is the arbitrary ingredient standards. Why would you not allow coloring or WTAs? What is wrong with Caffeine? I personally don't vape caffeine, but why should it be prohibited. I suppose my issue is that some of these restrictions seem like arbitrary prohibitions because they sound good.
If there are legitimate health issues with some of the ingredients, let's hear them. Otherwise, so long as the vendor tells you what is in the juice, let them decide what to put in it. I will decide what I buy and I want all my options on the table if the ingredients are not a reasonably well-documented health threat.
Personally, I think if this were a "pizza shop" forum, we may get into the cleanliness of stores, but since this is an ecig forum dedicated to a young industry and one that, frankly, should have its act together considering it actively sells a serious 
, I'd prefer and stick with those that have the funds, or at least the know-how to do it properly. 
, I'd prefer and stick with those that have the funds, or at least the know-how to do it properly.
well the gas station where i worked the grease would accumulate in the seam between the rollers and the frame on either side, and there was a plastic grommet there i couldn't remove. I couldn't get it all out from under there.
Why so much concern for juice vendors?
Where I live cayuga county new york plastic gloves are not used in food preperation but the next county over they are. I am sure its different all through out the usa.
Where I live cayuga county new york plastic gloves are not used in food preperation but the next county over they are. I am sure its different all through out the usa.
No problemo.
Because mods are just pieces of equipment, but without the liquid, where would we be? I guess you could get a flashlight adapter with a 510 connection and still rock your mech mods. I don't crave metal, I crave nicotine--a product that if not treated with care could be hazardous.
Here are a few things that I, and a few others, feel is "fit" for us: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...essage-e-liquid-vendors-what-we-want-you.html Just out of curiosity, what liquid vendors get your cash? I posted a few links of vendors I order(ed) from, so what about you?
No disrespect, but I cannot follow your train of thought here. What are you saying? It's all garbled up.
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