Do you guys think MODS are OVERPRICE?

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graffiti

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It's not the cost that pisses me off. It's the availability.

Sure, run a limited edition of your Nemmy or Private V2 or whatever. But then start producing them in quantity.

The problem is that manufacturers know that people want their product and an authentic version and if they limit supply they can price it however they want.

Which allows places like FT to come in and pick up the slack. Which is why I have no problems with clones. If you don't want to supply demand, I'll simply go somewhere that will.
 

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Mechs are a bit overpriced, as the high end ones usually range from 180-250 dollars. 100-150 would be a somewhat reasonable price range with how the market is for mods of all types.


You know whats more overpriced though? Drip tips. Drip tips should never go for $25.




YES SIR!!!! TOO MUCH





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I dunno. Expensive seems to be Relative.

I spent about $170/month smoking. And what did I get? A Big Pile of Butts and a Cough. So is a $170 MOD that Expensive?

You are correct that the term "expensive" is entirely relative, but it is only so in regards the number of buyers for a limited supply. The money that is saved by not smoking only offsets the minimum cost of an alternative, not related items purchased for esthetic/collector/sentimental value. These costs stand alone in the same way that an expensive lighter or cigarette case was not necessary to engage in smoking.
 
I say no, they are not overpriced. Here's why: The price of something has little to do with how much it costs to MAKE it. It has to do with what people WILL PAY for it. Given the fact that every US and Pinoy mech out there are constantly out of stock, I'd say they aren't high enough. Heck, half the people who buy clones don't do it because of price, they do it because they can't buy find the original in stock.

Bingo, Mr. Robo0506! If there are more buyers than items, the only way we can decide who wants it the most is to raise the price. It's the same thing with sports/entertainment tickets. Consumers betray their desire by packing the arena and are then surprised when the price goes up next year. Buyers always compete with other buyers for a limited supply by "offering" a bit more than the last guy. I've been at concerts with long beer lines and people complaining about the price. In fact, they should have another window where the beer costs a dollar or two more for those that want to get back to the event. And this second window should be price-variable based on the length of the first line.
 

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yea they could be cheaper but if people will pay it then they are priced just right for the market. They would definitely be worth the price tag most of the time if the lower end ones didn't break all the time. I can see 30 to 80 bucks as fair for a rig that will last a couple of years.....but most in the price range just don't....well for me anyhow. Mechs are way overpriced IMO....but people are willing to pay it so you cant blame the manufacturer for charging what someone will pay.
 

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Definetly worth the money, I'm a machinist and my family owns a machine shop/manufacturing business and while I can machine a top notch high quality mod that would put a Chinese clone to shame, the time put in to one is far greater than the price of most of these mods on the market. Take any mechanical mod into a machine shop and ask how much it would cost to make one and I think you'll have your answer fairly quick. The mass production and low labor rates of china are just about impossible to compete with on a $ scale. Sure it might take $25 to make but us Americans don't really like working for free ;)

Edit: box mods are kind of a different story, for example the Hana Modz. Very nice device but fairly cheap to make. Little over priced IMHO probably why china jumped on cloning it already, there's a huge market for it.

Yeah... Doing a "One Up" is kinda Pricey.

When One Setup Only does One Cut. And the Entire Tooling, CNC Code, Cutters and Labor Costs are dumped into One Part.

I remember give this Injection Mold Shop a price to do the Programming on a Die Set. I kinda High Balled it because I didn't want the work. Thought the Owner would Freak out when I put $3,500 on his RFQ.

He told me the Price was Fine. In that the Die Set was going to do 300,000 Parts per Month. And he figured he could get at Least a Year out of the Dies.
 

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I think they are quite overpriced for the most of us but there's a market there and they'll sell.

Personally I can live with having something that's a close to copy for the much cheaper price but I can see how some who have the money prefer having the real thing.

You should consider too, there's probably good resale value on limited run originals, there's good reason why there are serial # put on these mods.


I absolutely droll over the Gus Lord, but man that's a pricey piece of kit. I can't justify the outlay when I can get something similar for 1/10th the price. If it was only double the price I'd consider it, I'll get an original Russian 91% for instance if they come down closer to $60.
 

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Price doesn't bother me as much.

Now, mod happy elitists ......? Oh hell yeah.

These are the people who turn down any knock off mod or device simply because it's not brand name or authentic. If an e-cig helps you stay away from analogs, why does it matter who made it? People eat generic food brands all the time because they don't want to spend the extra few bucks for something with a popular name on it.
I have nothing against those folks, as long as they don't turn their noses up at vapers that find happiness with a $30 knock-off.
 

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Why does this even need a discussion?

Some people drive Bentleys. Some drive '98 Volvos. They both do basically the same thing. I personally wouldn't spend the money on a Bentley, but frankly it's none of my business if someone else wants to. There IS a difference between a '98 Volvo and a '14 Bentley. There's a difference between a bottle of 3-buck-chuck and a Chateau Latour. Both serve a market.
 

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    In the early 70s Porsche was faced with a dilemma because the demand exceeded production., and their choices were to build a new plant to meet the demand for their product, or raise the price so that demand equaled production capabilities.
    The Base 911 went from a 10,000 thousand dollar car to a 40,000 thousand dollar car overnight.
     

    NealBJr

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    Yes, it costs some people a lot of money to make a mod, and soon after that, the Chinese will copy it. I think the industry is fine as is. I have two kids, and I'm not the richest person in the world. when I look at a mod, and see a $150 pricetag, I am thinking what all I could get for that $150 for my children. I cannot afford such a luxury, and I don't have hundreds of mods, nor do I collect them. I have four total, with only one or two more for future plans. Unless one breaks, there's no need to replace the ones I have. I have two Vamos, valued at $35 each. So, that's $70 for a VV/VW mod and a backup. A provari is priced at $160 per each. I personally like the OLED on the Vamo better, but realize the Provari is a sturdier build. Personally, I think they vape the same.

    Using my vape budget, I could probably afford one provari per year. For me, the decision is easy. If I was in the same state as I was 20 years ago (single, no kids, etc), I'd have no problems buying a Provari. Maybe 15 years from now, I might consider getting one. But for right now, Vamo's are my best choice and Provaris are out of range.

    Same goes with Mech mods. Waitign list for a Caravela is over a year. They're several hundred dollars to boot. I have a Caravela clone that cost me $25. At this time, I cannot justify spending at least $200+ more and waiting a year when I can spend $25 and wait a month for shipping. If someone else does, more power to them. But I'd rather buy my clone and spend the extra $200 on seasons passes to Six flags for my children, then we'd all have more fun.

    Just my :2c:
     

    Tinkiegrrl

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    I do think that many mods are overpriced for what they are. As another poster stated, they are, in essence, a flashlight tube. That said, I can see some justification for the toppers. I think more research and ingenuity goes into those then the mods. Anyone making those needs to think about airflow, preventing flooding, vapor production, taste, materials that won't react to the liquids.... I can justify a high quality, expensive topper in my mind far more then an unregulated mod which is essentially a metal tube and a fire button. Other's may chime in about thread quality and what not, but I really can't justify spending hundreds because the threads are smooth and it has a laser etched design done by a machine. Now, hand etched designs are a bit different in my mind. In that case, it becomes an original piece of art and functionality matters less as far as price goes. Granted, laser etchings came from art as well, but those can and have been mass produced.
     
    I don't mind the prices too much, personally. You're paying the mod makers for their time and care in designing and machining these devices. Clones are easy. The design has already been made, so they just have to create a replica of an original. Designing something like this from scratch can take time and cost money, and putting the kind of care some of these manufacturers do into their devices should be compensated, if you enjoy what they have produced. I may not be able to purchase as many mods this way, but I know I'm getting an original by those who designed it. You may also take into consideration all of the designs and prototypes that don't make it out to a public market. They cost money to design and produce as well. =)
     

    havoc1967

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    It's all relative per individual. What you want - how much it costs - what is it worth to you. I have a Provari, which isn't cheap. Is it worth it to me? Absolutely. Do I regret buying it? Not at all. However, to me $200 and up for a mechanical mod is not worth it. But it is to others. If a tube style mechanical costs several hundred dollars but somebody wants it and can afford it, well, more power to them.
     

    jdm1982

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    its definitely relative. i mean, my ego-c twists from what i see on about 50 you tube videos now put out almost as much vaper as the mods do and cost nothing near the price of say a provari.

    does it look as nice? hell no.

    does it have the nice led screen and complex processor? nope

    no year warrenty either like a provari. and i hear you can expect to have a provari trouble free for about a decade, while replacing my twist every year or so.


    so is it worth it? well a corvette z531 can outrun some lambourghinis, does that make them not worth more money ?
     
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