Does 5V or 6V ecigs fry attys?

[Doctor Vapor]

I'm thinking about buying a Chuck as everyone who as posted anything about them seems to love them. My question is; I've read that 5V or 6V ecigs can fry attys and cause them to have a shorter life span. Please tell my what your experience has been with your atty life using 5V or 6V ecigs. I use a 510 atty as a general rule.

Thanks

 

[breakfastchef]

My experience is that higher voltages do shorten the lifespan of an atomizer. Operating a device made to run at 3.7 volts at the higher 5 and 6 volts does put additional stress on the heating coil. Many failures generally happen soon after you start using a high-voltage device until you develop vaping habits that prevent premature deaths. Keeping the atomizer wetter than usual, allowing the unit to cool down often and not dripping into a hot atomizer all can lead to a better lifespan.

I use penstyle atomizers exclusively. At 6 volts, I can pop an 801 in less than two weeks. Conversely, I can run a BE112 for up to a month. I now use BE112's at 6 volts and 801's on my 5v passthrough.

 

[bearscreek]

Yes, my 510s are definitely having a harder time at 5 and 6 volts. I had never truly fried one 100% at 3.7 volts. I can't say it's not worth it, though.

 

[catlvr]

I haven't had any problems with my Prodigy and 510 attys. Haven't lost one yet, in fact still using the same one for about 2 months now. Just have to watch that the atty doesn't get too hot or dry. I take a couple of 2 second or so hits then put it down till the atty cools then hit again.

 

[Antebellum]

Yes, they do, especially if you're not careful about keeping them cool.

 

[Doctor Vapor]

So what I'm hearing here is that; yes, the attys will wear out faster, but its all worth it because the vaping is much better. Is that about right?

 

[bearscreek]

That's the way I'd look at it, but it's a very individual thing. Atty life will depend on your habits, and the difference between 3.7 V and 5 V will depend on your preferences. I prefer the Prodigy at 5 or 6 V to the standard 3.7 V 510 battery, but I have some batteries ordered so I can use the Prodigy at 3.7+ V. I'm actually hoping that I'll be satisfied with that scenario so that any potential atty life problems might be alleviated. In some ways, though, I don't understand why my attys don't do as well at high voltage because I'm not rough on them. That has been the case so far for me, though.

 

[tribalmasters]

The atties go cold instead of becoming wimps but last about the same for me anyways. On 3.7 volts they become wimps in 2 - 4 weeks on 6 volts they pop in 2 - 4 weeks!

 

[ZeroNullity]

Instead of talking about voltage... lets talk about wattage. Around 4 watts is good for the 510. Around 5 watts will cause alot of vapor but also produce harsh warm smoke & even burn polyfill. On my home setup I run 5v~ @ 800~ ma from a wall wart (transformer) and it produces very smooth cool smoke not harsh at all. I have even run higher voltages at lower currents & vice versa with the same results... providing the power output/wattage is the same. The problem with very small batteries is that the output tends to be all over the place... depending how much it's charged. And the older it gets the lower performance, etc.

 

[CHUCKLEHEAD]

this is a little chuck at 3.7 v! It hits like 5 trust me

 

[breakfastchef]

All I can add to this conversation is that I will not vape at any voltage less than 5 volts/1 amp. It is at these levels I receive the amount of vapor and throat hit I desire. Lots of people are totally satisfied at 3.7 volts. If short battery life is a concern, there are several modified battery pack devices that will provide long vaping times at 3.X volts, far longer than anything from a factory in China. If you become addicted to vaping at higher voltages, battery life is not especially long, but cam be very satisfying. For me, though, lightly flavored liquids have little flavor. Everything is a trade-off. Try it and decide for yourself.

 

[crashtestjeep]

I agree with the above posts, my Chuck and Little Chuck hit like 5v when using 3.7v, so I hardly use my 3v batts for 6v.....I only use 6v when craving an added boost-which I find isnt very often. The Chuck really is in a class of its own, due to its conductivity. copper tubing and brass ends is what sets it apart. Im sure a Chuck at 3.7v will satisfy, and if you want a boost, you have that option. I have yet to kill an atty, but like I said, I only do 6v on occasion...

 

[Lubes]

Are the vapor hits from the Chuck (18650 battery) and the Little Chuck (16340 battery) the same or do you notice some sort of difference between them?

 

[ZeroNullity]

Voltage/Amperage are important, the whole reason I talk about wattage/power for a atomizer and not just voltage. The chuck performs better because it uses a higher mah (milliamp an hour) battery then the oem batteries. For example a 12volt 5amp battery can power a home alarm system. but it can't weld metal together. A 12v 200amp+ car battery can fling lead like there is no tommorrow. It's all about POWER. Once I have write/post permissions I'll upload some photos, etc.. of some mods in mod sub-forums. I have lots of experiments in my shop.

 

[Doctor Vapor]

Instead of talking about voltage... lets talk about wattage. Around 4 watts is good for the 510. Around 5 watts will cause alot of vapor but also produce harsh warm smoke & even burn polyfill. On my home setup I run 5v~ @ 800~ ma from a wall wart (transformer) and it produces very smooth cool smoke not harsh at all. I have even run higher voltages at lower currents & vice versa with the same results... providing the power output/wattage is the same. The problem with very small batteries is that the output tends to be all over the place... depending how much it's charged. And the older it gets the lower performance, etc.

hey bro, please post some specs about what kind of set up you're using. That transformer sounds like a good deal. I'd really like to know what you've got set up.

 

[ZeroNullity]

Well I was going to wait until I can upload attachments / url links.... I guess you have to post at least 15 posts before that happens? I only have 13 more =) I have many setups that run off transformers... simply because I have a multi-cpu server as workstation & don't won't to take the chance of frying the motherboard... big $$$ for a server MB. I also run off batteries.... but their performance goes down quickly. Transformers are usually very reliable steady power. Not once do I ever worry about not getting the same hit every time or my batteries dying.... or the charging circuit frying on a pass thru, overcharging batteries, or wasting li-ion batteries. It's good for a spot that you'll be at most of the time, computer, bedroom, etc. The only thing other then the atomizer I have to worry about frying is the tranformer which only cost a few bucks and the chances of it going out any time soon are slim.

 

[crashtestjeep]

Are the vapor hits from the Chuck (18650 battery) and the Little Chuck (16340 battery) the same or do you notice some sort of difference between them?

IMO, abt the same. The Little Chuck battery dies suddenly, no decrease in vapor for me until dead. Lasts anywhere btwn 3.5-8hrs depending on heavy or super heavy vaping, I drive alot for work so it NEVER leaves my hands. When Im in stores btwn driving, at meetings or wiith clients thru the day, thats when it lasts 8 hrs.

My Big Chuck, however, lasts 2.5 days to 3 days, depending on same circumstances, respectively. ( I have a power inverter in my company vehicle so charging a battery is of no inconvenience to me)

Id say its just a size difference unless you want the option of 6v. Having both, I do tend to still grab my Lil Chuck more...

 

[bigozone]

still using my first atty on a 901 5v usb pass thru, it's been going strong for over 2 months, but starting to become harder to draw thru... but when i zap it with 6v 1A from an AC to DC wall adapter it seems to clear up for a day or 2.

i think the real factor is how long you keep the button held down with the the 5 or 6v mods. just go lightly on the button till you get the feel for it.

 

[Wsch3]

from my experience 5volt causes atomizers to die quicker. I expect atomizers to last between 1 to 2 weeks. On 3.7volts it usually lasted about a month for me.

 

[ZeroNullity]

Yes, they oxidize faster with higher heat. The part you see when you look into the atomizer is only the wick. The actual heating element is very very small... it doesn't take much heating & cooling with vapor to cause problems with the tiny tiny coils/wires. I've been working on more permanant soultions.