Does all liquids losing flavor on more than 10W ?

[VapinSweetZ]

I tried most of my juices (from 70/30 to 30/70, 6mg, different vendors),
And all of them starting to lose flavor around 9.5W, the strongest flavor I get at around 8.5W.

Is it depend on the liquid or all of them kinda acts the same?

 

[TheAmazingDave]

I think it depends also on your setup. With stock heads in my Protank 2, I found over 12 watts netted diminishing returns. Rebuilding it with cotton wick and a nice microcoil increased its performance, and I can vape it up to my mod's max 15 watts now with great vapor, flavor, and throat hit using a 2.4 ohm 30 gauge microcoil and cotton.

 

[beckdg]

nope. it's probably your equipment. what are you using for an atty?

 

[KODIAK (TM)]

the strongest flavor I get at around 8.5W.

Well, there you go then. I guess 8.5 watts it is. I seldom go above 8 myself. But that's just me. Depends on too many variables and I'm not aware of any universal power setting that appeals to everyone.

Enjoy the extended battery life!

 

[xanderxman]

I depends on your setup. I drip and on a fresh battery I am making about 60W and the flavor is phenomenal. Your equipment is going to determine how much power you can make and still get good flavor. Dripping attys have large airflow holes, which is another important factor in vaping. A ProTank would never give you a good flavor with that much power.

It seems like you found the power setting that works for you so I say stick with that for now. The nice thing about VV is you can adjust the power to suit you and the liquid you are vaping. Some liquids hold up to higher power better than others.

 

[69CamaroSS]

Learning this stuff, myself as well. Totally agree with Xanderxman on this one! Big power=Big heat in the coil. If you don't flow big air over or through it, it won't work well....burnt taste, poor flavor etc. Balance is everything....in everything

 

[Hypatia]

I tried most of my juices (from 70/30 to 30/70, 6mg, different vendors),
And all of them starting to lose flavor around 9.5W, the strongest flavor I get at around 8.5W.

Is it depend on the liquid or all of them kinda acts the same?

It's also very dependent on the device. Example: I have an RDA that I build coils around 0.7ohms that I run on a mech. On a fresh battery, that's 25 watts. The very same juice in my iClear 30s (2.1ohms) on my MVP2 tastes best at 6.5-7watts, any more and it starts getting the burnt taste. More is not always more with regard to power. YMMV

 

[69CamaroSS]

exactly Hypatia!! Any more than about 9-10 on my Sigelei Zmax creates flavors that remind me of doing burnouts before a drag race!!

 

[VapinSweetZ]

Thanks guys, so do you think it depends more on the atty or the powering device?

 

[carrielsal]

Thanks guys, so do you think it depends more on the atty or the powering device?

The atomizer. My Aspire and PT BDC's don't have as much flavor as my Russian 91%. Anything above 10W on the premade coils start tasting burned. On my R91's I have 1.4ohm micro-coils and cotton wicks. I usually vape 8-9W. Sometimes I'll push up the power to 11-12W, and the flavor is a lot stronger.

 

[Funk Dracula]

Thanks guys, so do you think it depends more on the atty or the powering device?

Atty + coil + airflow.

Same juice in a properly set up RDA will blow you mind and curl your toes at 30 Watts, and sicken you in an iClear above 10 Watts.

The device has nothing to do with it, except some can't give you that high wattage vape that some toppers offer.

 

[Hypatia]

90% atty, 10% device, IMO. Something like an RDA will have a direct airflow over the coil, whereas a tank or clearo, while having "airflow" from beneath at the 510 connection doesn't have "direct" air, IYKWIM.

I say 10% device dependent, solely because some devices that are regulated will suffer more of the modulating effect. For example, that 4.1v or whatever it's set at is not "constant." It modulates, with an average output of 4.1v. Some devices are "worse" than others in this department, some are better. Mechs, of course, will not have such issues, as they are unregulated (but have a whole other set of concerns in the tradeoff).

 

[Ryedan]

Thanks guys, so do you think it depends more on the atty or the powering device?

As long as the power supply gives you the watts you want to put into the atty, it doesn't matter what it is. The rest is just features for convenience and style.

The atty needs to be designed to give you what you are after. You can go chose attys for better flavor or better vapor or a combination. Some also leak if on their side, there are tanks and drippers and some are easier to build successfully than others. After that it's all about learning how to set them up for the vape you want.

 

[Wow1420]

Thanks guys, so do you think it depends more on the atty or the powering device?

It's the atty, especially how well it wicks. The wick has to be able to deliver liquid to the coil fast enough to keep up with the amount you vaporize at higher watts.

I run my clearos at 6 watts usually. I used to think everyone who used higher settings was nuts. Until I got my Kayfun, that is. I can run the kayfun anywhere from 8.5 to 11 watts, I usually keep it around 9 or 9.5, higher just feels too hot for me.

 

[Bigflyrodder]

When I'm not out and about 50% of my vaping at least is with RDAs which I run anywhere from 25-70watts depending on the coil and the mod. With subohm you have to have big airflow or it is pretty pointless but with those the flavor is not lost in the least I assure you. I also often use a Kick in my mech mods with RBAs and don't experience any flavor loss at all. I tend to vape all my bccs at 4.0-4.3v depending on the head, don't see any advantage to cranking those up to 5 or 6v personally as they get burny.

Flavor is a very subjective thing. I could see the 10w rule being applied to bccs but all bets are off when you move into RDAs.

 

[KODIAK (TM)]

which I run anywhere from 25-70watts depending on the coil and the mod.

Dragging that generator behind you must get tedious.

 

[zoiDman]

I tried most of my juices (from 70/30 to 30/70, 6mg, different vendors),
And all of them starting to lose flavor around 9.5W, the strongest flavor I get at around 8.5W.

Is it depend on the liquid or all of them kinda acts the same?

My e-Liquids do Not Lose their flavor at 10W or More. In Fact, they take on a Whole New Flavor.

The New Flavor is Hard to Explain. But this is About the Closest I can Describe it.

 

[VapinSweetZ]

It's the atty, especially how well it wicks. The wick has to be able to deliver liquid to the coil fast enough to keep up with the amount you vaporize at higher watts.

I guess eliquid reacts best to a specific range of heat degree ("extract" the flavor best).
So I guess the most important question is what impact the ratio of heat flux (watts) to actual temperature in fahrenheit.

 

[reogrand]

When I got into Kayfuns and Russians, with my most used microcoil being 8 wraps of 28g Kanthal metering at 1.1 ohms with cotton, 5/64" drill bit, I was using mechanicals. Now that I have a DNA 30, it seems I like the vape best from 10 to 15 watts and the flavor is consistent. Above 15 watts the coil burns the juice faster than it can be wicked and the flavor then gets "burnt". It's definitely mostly atty and coil setup that makes the difference as others have pointed out. I'm sure with an RDA I can easily go to 30 watts and get great flavor, but that's just not my thing. To each his (or her) own...just vape the way it tastes good and satisfies you.

I vaped for years on Reos with a 1.5 ohm 901 and loved it, in fact I still do, and that was way low on the wattage. Of course, I vaped 18mg in that setup, now I vape 3mg and 6mg and get more enjoyment using a regulated mod with a Kayfun. Taste is subjective of course, but the equipment definitely makes a huge difference.

 

[KODIAK (TM)]

Thanks guys, so do you think it depends more on the atty or the powering device?

Everything except the battery. A "watt" is a watt. Ain't no 2 watts different.