Does anyone make a 26500 tube mod?

[smokinwheels]

Hi there,

I'm hoping to tap the group knowledge here -- my google fu has failed me. I would love to put my hands on a bottom firing mech tube mod meant natively for a 26500 (not 26650) battery. As my vaping career has progressed, I have found myself gravitating towards the shortest mechs I can find with tolerable battery life. 18350s are right out, though I love the form factor, too many darn battery changes. 18650s are good for battery life, but too long. So the best compromise I've been able to find is 18500 mods (own several high end ones, but honestly, the cheapo "kylin" knock-off of the Pisces is the shortest one I've found and my go to these days, paired with sanyo 1700 mah 18500s from orbtronic).

But 1700 mah still ain't where I want to be and those sanyos can only safely go to 1.3 ohms. I have no problem with a wider mod (insert joke about width being more important than length right here but I want to stay at a max of 500 batteries for height... and the less height the mod adds to the battery the better. My dream mod would be something like the red rod design, but designed for a 26500 battery -- giving me a short fat mod that can still do a good 2500-3000 mah -- and the higher amps that the 26500 batteries can provide.

The only thing my search has turned up was a prototype (which I would buy in a heartbeat if only it was available). Look here:

Hades 26500 Mod disassemble - YouTube

I know the curve is available with a 26500 tube, but really don't like the look of that thing and the button / top cap add too much height.

Am I the only one with this obsession? Surely there must be a market for a minimalist, small form factor 26500 tube mod. Thanks for listening to me ramble on about it -- and for any suggestions you might have!

--Steve.

 

[loganfl22]

I've seen various Hades mods available though some supposed to perform pretty well. Unfortunately for you the trend now seems to be bigger and flashier is better itd be easy to point you at a great big monstronsity but not many small ones. I'll keep a look out anyways. As soon as I remember where I found the Hades Ill post a link

The Hades Mod by Footoon Brass

Thats the only authentic I know there are a bunch of clones popping up if youd be interested in one of them. If im not mistaken vapingwithtwisted420 did a review on youtube and normally he posts links on where to buy

 

[smokinwheels]

Logan,

I *really* appreciate the suggestion. Yes. I've seen the hades mod and though it is a thing of beauty, it is also too darn large. I'm really trying to find a short, pocket friendly 26500... and you are right, the market in the 26XXX series just doesn't seem to go there. I get it, since it is a wider battery, folks who want big mods gravitate to the 26650 -- and not the 26500.

But it seems like a missed opportunity when so many, like me, want the highest mah, highest amp solution they can find in the smallest form factor. A 26500 mod with a gp paps style (read short!) bottom firing button and without a firing pin up top (eg, atty itself makes direct contact with battery) is *THE* mod I want to own!

Plenty of folks have read my question by now... I'm afraid what I want just doesn't exist -- yet. Any of you modders out there listening? Make it, please!

Thanks again for the reply!

--Steve.

 

[loganfl22]

Idk how tech savy you are but you could try building your own. I would contact a modder on your own I forgot who but Ive seen many who do custom builds. Ive seen some you can message tell them you want your mod inside of xxxxxx and they make it work. granted youll pay a good chunk for it.

And now this is something I just recently started looking into for myself but if size is the issue have you considered an 18650 hybrid mod? you could put something like the 35 amp efest battery or 30 amp sony which will last quite a long time. Also a lot of hybrids seem to be more compact compared to other devices paired with a genny. Just a thought but if you want Ill post some links up. I just dont feel like it if youre not interested lol

* I think it still might be a little on the long side for what you want but I dont think by much

 

[smokinwheels]

Logan,

Thanks again for all the great ideas. Were I not completely overworked, I would love to design the mod I have in mind, take the drawings to a machine shop -- and heck, sell them, too. I love tinkering and thinking about mods. Maybe one day.

Till then, yeah, a hybrid is a possibility (or simpler still, a fusion hybrid conversion ring for my gp paps.) These are all things I've messed around with at different times-- and am quite happy with.

I suppose I am forever chasing that *perfect* mod. Do I really need it? No, the equipment I have works just fine. And even if I found or built, or had built, this here 26500 idea, I'd probably start chasing the next perfect idea the next day.

Man, I never saw this aspect of the hobby coming. At this point, I can't say whether I am more addicted to vaping, or to studying, collecting or tinkering with all the hardware. So fun.

Thanks for your ideas! Have a good one.
S.

 

[loganfl22]

No problem!I totally understand in the span of a couple months Ive purchased all kinds of stuff from standard egos to mech mods and etc. I even started a thread asking who else became obsessed haha im always waiting on vape mail or trying to modify what I have if you have any ideas Ive been considering building some mods myself soon. I have a few ideas floating around for a custom dna30 mod

 

[smokinwheels]

Check out:

DIY Mod Shop by jonniemac on Shapeways


S

 

[Durty D]

Super T just released a simplicity 26500 today. Still available as well at time of this post. Not gonna get much slimmer than a simplicity. I would jump on one but I just got a simplicity 26650....

 

[smokinwheels]

Durty D:

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU.

Did I say thank you? I was away from ecf for awhile and just found your post. Went straight to the super t site and ordered her! Once it arrives and I play with it for awhile, I'll post my impressions here to pay it forward.

Just one more example of how awesome this community is... ask a hard question and someone out there answers it just to be nice.

--Steve.

 

[Durty D]

No problem whatsoever mate! You're very welcome. And... You're gonna love it... and I believe since you got in on the first run you'll get the polished finish vs the ribbed. (I'm a little jelly haha)

What are you going to run for batteries? Old AW stash? Efests?

 

[Durty D]

Additionally, you can buy a 26650 tube only for $30 iirc and have two mods in one. (What I shoud have done lol.) From reading your posts that may be too large on the form factor but thought I'd mention it. Here's a quick size comparo. Left to right Ti 500, 26650, 18650. All Simplicities.

 

[smokinwheels]

I *wish* I had some AWs stashed -- this may be the one downfall of the 26500 mod, at least for now. The only ones I can find on the net are some kind of generic blue ones (brand "AV") and the efests -- and from what I've read, while both are 3000 mah and IMR and the C ratings are okay-ish, neither performs particularly well in terms of battery life once you go above 3 amps... the curves start to drop off much faster and you get an effective ~ 2500 mah at 3 amps. Most days I'm on a kayfun or spheroid at around 1.2 ohms, so I'm not pulling huge amps, but I'll be right on the edge of what they can do and that just bugs me. I get obsessive about these things Anyhow, got one of each, and will post my experiences with them once I see how they get on.

I'm betting the demand for these batteries will rise and we'll see new options down the road. And maybe I am just projecting, but I can't be the only vaper out there looking to strike the best possible balance between small size and long life. 26500 just seems like the natural compromise to me... and it seems like a large enough form factor to cram a good 30+ amps into if the manufacturers ever decide to go that route.

Durty (and Logan), thanks again. Stay tuned for some notes on how she performs. This will be my first super T product and I'll be stalking the mailman!

--Steve.

PS: Is there any place one can buy used AW 26500s? Now *there* is a challenging question!

 

[Durty D]

Nice, on the AWs I don't think so unfortunately. I have the blue 3500 in 26650 and for me they actually take a little more mah than that when cycled fully per my RC battery charger. The 20a rating is fine for my purposes as I usually run a dual .8-.9 setup or a single 1ohm atty. Lasts all day!

In reality the 26000 batteries seem to be a generation behind the 18000 atm. I agree with you that the expanding 26 market subset may influence some advancement in that size. Lets hope so!!

Stop by the super t subforum here and say hello! Friendly folk there as well.

 

[Durty D]

Sure would be nice if MNKE makes some 26500 like the big brother!

 

[smokinwheels]

Durty -- and anyone else following this thread...

So I have the new super-t simplicity 26500 in my hot little hand and I am a pretty happy camper. Actually, it's a good thing I have*big* hands, but let's start with what I love about it first. The switch is absolutely wonderful to use. It has this incredibly satisfying, almost thudy feel and throw. Press it anywhere and it fires: period. And while the throw is a bit long (have yet to try adjusting it, and doubt I will), it feels proportionally correct to the girth and weight of the mod. Also to the credit of this great switch, the mod stands absolutely straight as an arrow and does not wiggle when you set it down -- nor does it autofire with a heavy topper on it.

Some other things I also love: Threading is about the best I've ever encountered. And the polished finish, I am happy to say, is closer to brushed than mirror -- matches up perfectly with my kayfuns. When you put all these things together, and add it to the substantial weight this mod has in your hand, you are left with a rather incredible sense of high quality when you pick it up and use it. And of course, with 3000 mah, I will be getting about double what I am getting out of my 18500 mods in terms of run time.

A few negatives to note. First, I am less of a fan of the locking ring. It is difficult to grasp and you end up spinning both it and the firing button when you go to lock or unlock the mod... and it takes many turns to lock it. Whether that will lead to the switch coming unscrewed inside I do not yet know -- but it really won't matter because I think I will only very rarely be locking this one. In casual use around the house, the throw is firm enough that I see no need to lock it.

Second, out of the box, I tried both an efest and the blue generic 26500 batteries (both flat tops), and my Kayfuns, spheroids and cobra gennies on it. With all of these combos, I either got no gap, or perhaps a 1-2 mm gap, where the top cap meets the body of the mod.... and no rattles. So that's actually a positive for me, but note that your mileage may and probably will vary if you use nipple top batteries or have toppers with long 510 connections. The 510 pin is adjustable to meet your atty, but there is no further adjustment to get rid of battery rattle or gap between the top cap and body... unless you add / subtract O-rings and washers in the switch housing. So, whatever you put on top and whatever battery you use, yes, you should be able to get it all squared away with no gaps or rattle -- but I wouldn't plan on fast and easy changes when you throw a *different* battery or topper in / on the mod. All things being equal, I would have preferred a floating pin design.

And here it comes: Yup, this mod wastes too much vertical space. While it would take a significant redesign (and I don't think Super T was out to make the shortest 26500 mod they possibly could in the 1st place), it seems to me it should be possible to reduce the length by at least 1/2 if not 3/4 an inch. The height here is bordering on twice the height of the battery it takes and as a result the mod entirely fills the palm. However, the width is as sparing as I could ever expect.

Thus the end of the story is a mod that feels hefty and good in the hand, with a fantastic switch and excellent machining and finish... It is not overwhelmingly large, but still large enough that this will remain limited to the mod I use around the house. Just too big a beast to carry in public. And that is OK! This thing is so great for at the desk or next to the couch kinds of vaping -- and will significantly reduce all the battery changing and charging I've been doing at home. So I certainly call it a win.

Oh, and I forgot to say: She hits very, very nicely! I haven't even cleaned the machine oil off yet, but she is already hitting as hard as my paps.

So that's my initial reaction -- hope it helps someone out there. I'll make some further notes about this mod after I've lived with her a while -- probably over on the Super T thread. Will also be interested to see how these batteries do with runtime. For now, they are both hitting just fine @ 1.1 ohms.

Thanks for the help, one and all!
--Steve.

 

[smokinwheels]

Ignore this post -- deleting a double posting...

 

[coho72]

Just to add something totally off track , with an MNKE in the 26650 version you can get the switch throw shorter than a Lux with the lock ring screwed all the way down except for maybe a .5mm touch switch. I just love my Simple 26! Have an awesome holiday weekend everyone!!!!!

 

[smokinwheels]

Coho,

Yes! Noticed the same thing with my 26500 -- played around with the washers and o-rings and you can fine tune the switch to where it essentially has no throw at all -- it becomes a mechanical touch switch! Really impressive work by Super T here -- especially given the girth of these mods, you wouldn't expect such a nuanced switch.

Have a great holiday!
S.

 

[Durty D]

Awesome! Glad you're enjoying your Simplicity! I actually picked up a 500 tube for mine as well. Haven't gotten any batteries yet but have an efest on the way. I'll likely use a single coil on it as the performance really drops off after 3-4 amps. Regardless, for my big ... hands, should fit very nicely.

When you spin the lock ring the switch and spring do turn. Not to worry. I use a tiny bit of noalox on the spring mating surfaces and the lock ring threads. Keep it clean and you'll have no worries smokinwheels.