Does this seem right to you?

[StarreLabelle]

My granddaughter has been around vaping since she was barely four, and she's now six. I remember her trying to eat a pack of cigarettes when she was very little. But she understands that vaping is for adults, and since she's seen her mom coughing like crazy after vaping, I don't think she'd try to do either. I actually have Mr.Cookie, but I keep it in a child proof container. My grandchild is smart enough to open anything if she set her mind to it, so I think continual education is necessary. If we start limiting how vendors can display their products, it might back fire. People with small kids should store all poison out of the reach of children.

 

[StarreLabelle]

The public is going to perceive how the public will. Next they'll want to ban anything with a pink label, since that's a favorite color of little girls. We shouldn't leave poison in the reach of children, period. Crawling babies don't look at the cookie picture, they'll put anything in their mouths. A child that is old enough to sneak into my bedroom, and into my drawers to meddle, has already displayed these tendencies. I haven't had any problems with my family. But just as we don't ban swimming pools, we watch kids around them, we shouldn't ban ejuice labels.

 

[deepsouth]

Just my 2 cents but the pending regulations have little to do with labels or attracting kids. That is just another bogus claim added to long list to get their hands into the vaping industry. Big Government and Big Tobacco can not stand being on the sidelines as this Industry takes off.

It would not matter if every label was skull and cross bones and every flavor taste like crab juice, as long as the Industry is taking money out of their pocket they are going to hit it with a flurry of attacks true or false as long as it puts vaping in a negative light until they get what they want and that is a piece of the pie.

 

[EBates]

Wow, I think I've got it!
Lets change all of the e-juice labels to a cartoon depicting a pile of dead smokers and a bunch of politicians (state, local, fed, etc), BT, BP, walking away carrying large sacks of money, and tearing up the constitution, bill of rights, bible, etc while the NSA, FBI, et al, watch from the clouds above. That should scare the hell out of the Children.
But I could be wrong.

 

[Lessifer]

Wow, I think I've got it!
Lets change all of the e-juice labels to a cartoon depicting a pile of dead smokers and a bunch of politicians (state, local, fed, etc), BT, BP, walking away carrying large sacks of money, and tearing up the constitution, bill of rights, bible, etc while the NSA, FBI, et al, watch from the clouds above. That should scare the hell out of the Children.
But I could be wrong.

Better use a live action shot, cartoons make people nervous...

 

[EBates]

Like the lady said in the movie Rosemary's Baby "This is not a dream, this is really happening".
So be Afraid Be Very Afraid!

 

[Jode]

It is.

But we are Fighting for our e-Cigarette Lives here. And are Under Attack on Every Level. This type of Label does Nothing but Hurt our Cause.

I ask myself... "Why does a Retailer/Vendor need to use this Label in the First Place?". They are Not going to Sell any Less or any More e-Liquid if they just used a Picture of a Cookie.

And if they Did, there Wouldn't be the Spector of trying to Entice Under Aged use of e-Cigarettes.

They may indeed sell less if the packaging is different. People often chose something based on its description or looks. First impressions sells!!!!

 

[zoiDman]

Like the lady said in the movie Rosemary's Baby "This is not a dream, this is really happening".
So be Afraid Be Very Afraid!

Yeah... And putting Cartoon Characters and Images of Adolescents on bottles of "Juice" is going to lend great credibility with the General Publike when we Try to Fight Things.

 

[zoiDman]

They may indeed sell less if the packaging is different. People often chose something based on its description or looks. First impressions sells!!!!

I agree.

That is Why I Reversed My Position on all this.

I think OEM's should be Able to put Images of Adolescents or Cartoon Characters on anything e-Cigarette Related.

So what if we get Slayed in a Deeming Approval Hearing. And give ANTZ Lawmakers more Ammunition for Restrictions. Sales should come 1st.

 

[Jode]

Maybe ejuice companies could have an option for bad/lazy parents but for the rest of us, I like the bottle/label designs

If you're leaving a poisonous substance out for your children to get into, it isn't the bottles fault, it's yours.

This is perfect. I am a Grammy that is fortunate enough to have my grandbabies live with me. They have no idea what different labels are on any of my juice because it is in a locked cabinet, out of their reach in a room where they are supposed to respect privacy of adults (my bedroom). It is their parents and me and my husbands job to make sure they are safe and respect rules and boundaries and it would be our fault if they did get their hands on a bottle. You are right on!!!!

 

[EBates]

This is perfect. I am a Grammy that is fortunate enough to have my grandbabies live with me. They have no idea what different labels are on any of my juice because it is in a locked cabinet, out of their reach in a room where they are supposed to respect privacy of adults (my bedroom). It is their parents and me and my husbands job to make sure they are safe and respect rules and boundaries and it would be our fault if they did get their hands on a bottle. You are right on!!!!

Be very careful Any Level Of Discipline Or Requirement of Responsibility Shall Result In Criminal Prosecution. The exception would be the lady beating up her son during the Baltimore Riots.

 

[deepsouth]

You should ask yourself what is this fight really about and why should we have to fight.

In a day when pot is becoming legal, ecigs and juice are being banned and facing business damaging regulations.

As I stated before this has nothing to do with the label on a bottle this is about getting in your pocket. Wake up and fight for what is right, your right to vape and a companies right to put what ever they want on their bottle. It's all the same thing to me. Freedom is a funny thing you attack someone else's and it's just a matter of time before its yours that is being attacked.

 

[skoony]

Yeah... And putting Cartoon Characters and Images of Adolescents on bottles of "Juice" is going to lend great credibility with the General Publike when we Try to Fight Things.

its hard to find any fault in your logic when its just applied to things like e-cigarettes,
tobacco and alcohol.(though alcohol seems to be in another category)
the problem lies in the fact this isn't happening in a vacuum. the tactics first
used against cigarettes and now us will eventually be applied elsewhere.
in some cases they have been. in some localities the packaging of McDonalds
Happy Meals has been taken to task as being to colorful and unduly attractive
to the chillin'. i don't believe any actual regulations came about but,rest
assured the subject will come up again.
we in the states must beware of this flavor and or packaging canard.
eventually it will spread to every market segment.
this is how they handle it in the UK.
https://www.cap.org.uk/Advertising-...9e5-79e5-408a-8db4-8f1eebc49707}#.VXB-g9JVikp
Marketing and advertising: the law - GOV.UK

there have been commercials made in the USA for our
market that were pulled in the UK market for running
afoul of these provisions in the past.
you will find that a lot of these restrictions make sense
in writing. the devils in how they are interpreted and whom interprets them.

regards
mike

 

[beckdg]

Yeah... And putting Cartoon Characters and Images of Adolescents on bottles of "Juice" is going to lend great credibility with the General Publike when we Try to Fight Things.

I'm frantically searching for baby bottle nipples that can be affixed to the top of joose bottles. I'm thinking of coming out with my own line. Without the proper lid, it's a no go, though.

Tapatyped

 

[beckdg]

This is perfect. I am a Grammy that is fortunate enough to have my grandbabies live with me. They have no idea what different labels are on any of my juice because it is in a locked cabinet, out of their reach in a room where they are supposed to respect privacy of adults (my bedroom). It is their parents and me and my husbands job to make sure they are safe and respect rules and boundaries and it would be our fault if they did get their hands on a bottle. You are right on!!!!

A responsible "parent" living in reality who's also a vaper.

By the tone of conversations around here, I thought you didn't exist.

My Unicorn....

Tapatyped

 

[EBates]

The government has no plan to kill the vaping cash cow. They just want to Save The Children by moving the vaping cash cow to a Safer Pasture (Big Tobacco). That way all of those quitting cigs can get the same experience as smoking from the Experts (BT). Their years of experience will surely Improve vaping to the point that it surpasses the smoking experience. Along with the Addiction, and Death Toll.

 

[zoiDman]

its hard to find any fault in your logic when its just applied to things like e-cigarettes,
tobacco and alcohol.(though alcohol seems to be in another category)
the problem lies in the fact this isn't happening in a vacuum. the tactics first
used against cigarettes and now us will eventually be applied elsewhere.
in some cases they have been. in some localities the packaging of McDonalds
Happy Meals has been taken to task as being to colorful and unduly attractive
to the chillin'. i don't believe any actual regulations came about but,rest
assured the subject will come up again.
we in the states must beware of this flavor and or packaging canard.
eventually it will spread to every market segment.
this is how they handle it in the UK.
https://www.cap.org.uk/Advertising-...9e5-79e5-408a-8db4-8f1eebc49707}#.VXB-g9JVikp
Marketing and advertising: the law - GOV.UK

there have been commercials made in the USA for our
market that were pulled in the UK market for running
afoul of these provisions in the past.
you will find that a lot of these restrictions make sense
in writing. the devils in how they are interpreted and whom interprets them.

regards
mike

The Tactics used in Cigarette Marketing have been Shown to be Very Effective in Influencing Public Percept. And to Justify Restrictions proposed by Law/Policy Makers. I see No Reason why they will not be As Effective with e-Liquids.

Actually, it will be More Effective. Because the General Population is Not Very Informed when it comes to e-Cigarettes/e-Liquids. And in Many Cases, have been Polluted with Mis-Information via Biased Studies, Slant Articles, and in Some Case, Flat Out Lies.

The Argument, that some Members here have used, that we Must fight for "Freedom" is a Great Catch Phrase. And the Rhetoric that we must somehow "Draw a Line in the Sand" makes for Good Copy.

But there is No Deem coming to decide the Future of Alcohol. Or for Dish Soap. Or for Happy Meals. But there is one for e-Cigarettes. And I am Not

I think people need to Wake Up. And to Understand that Very Shortly, the Future of e-Cigarettes is Going to be Decided. Decided by People who are on Record for Frothing at the Mouth when the Slightest Perception of Marketing to Children has Come Up.

Why Help those People?

 

[beckdg]

The Argument, that some Members here have used, that we Must fight for "Freedom" is a Great Catch Phrase.

Our founding fathers are rolling over in their graves.

Tapatyped

 

[zoiDman]

Our founding fathers are rolling over in their graves.

Tapatyped

Freedom is a Funny Word.

And does Not Extend to All Things at All Times.

 

[beckdg]

Freedom is a Funny Word.

And does Not Extend to Many Things at This Time.

Ftfy

Tapatyped