I'm sorry, but I don't believe anyone one man has the right to criticize another when they nothing about them. I never claimed to be the epitome of responsibility, but I did try to take some sort of action. It is not irresponsible to give advice to someone who seeks it. I have parents who are also making calls to the vet just in case anyhow I just wanted check since they already called the vet.
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I'm sorry, but I don't believe anyone one man has the right to criticize another when they nothing about them. I never claimed to be the epitome of responsibility, but I did try to take some sort of action. It is not irresponsible to give advice to someone who seeks it. I have parents who are also making calls to the vet just in case anyhow I just wanted check since they already called the vet.
I am NOT a vet...but from what I Understand...
Nicotine poisoning acts pretty quickly...if there is going to be a problem it would likely be with 30 mins of indigestion. Will start with salvation, dizzy cant walk straight, tremors then full on seizures then death.
If this all happened two hours ago or so, and so far the dog is acting ok...it might be a mute point.
Nicotine poisoning acts pretty quickly...if there is going to be a problem it would likely be with 30 mins of indigestion. Will start with salvation, dizzy cant walk straight, tremors then full on seizures then death.
If this all happened two hours ago or so, and so far the dog is acting ok...it might be a mute point.
The best advice and only pertinent advice I have seen so far is to immediately call your veterinarian! It is much better to be over cautious when a family members life is at stake. And be advised your pup will likely continue to seek out your yummy smelling juice so be extra careful to keep it out of reach. My 2c
Would that mean she's alright or that she just won't show symptoms?
Thank you for the advice. I didn't come looking for an argument, just wanna know what to do. My parents already called so we should be ok.
cat poop is somewhat organic (?) albeit disgusting, but commonly eaten by many dogs. Nicotine is not. I hope the OP took the dog to a professional.
At least call your vet. If this was your child, you wouldn't beposting on a forum 
At least I hope you wouldn't.
And please keep e liquid where animals and kids can't get it from now on.
At least I hope you wouldn't.And please keep e liquid where animals and kids can't get it from now on.
It's a good thing you're asking for help. And you're not the first person whose pet (or child) has ingested e-liquid. If your 60 lb dog swallowed just a few drops of 6 mg/ml juice, it should be OK.
Having said that, since your pup is clearly in the habit of eating everything in sight, please make sure to store your e-liquids in a covered box (preferably on a high shelf) and don't leave any tanks/cartos lying around where the dog can access them. The same goes for human food that may be harmful to dogs, like chocolate.
https://www.aspca.org/pet-care/virtual-pet-behaviorist/dog-behavior/foods-are-hazardous-dogs
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If there is an issue she wont not show symptoms. It's not like she wont show anything at all and then be dead.
Id personally look at my pet...is she looking acting funny at all? Vomiting, ........, tremors, cant walk right, isnt alert ect..??
If so..id take them to the vet Now. If they arnt.... I'd stay up with them and watch but "my"(me myself as in non vet not ecfs opinion) concern level wouldnt be as high. Make sure she's got food n water.
Also...
"toxic dose for nicotine in pets is 1/2-1 mg per pound of pet body weight, while the lethal dose is 4 mg per pound of pet body weight." So say she ingested a ml?..looking at 6mgs worth so 1.5ish(rounded up) pounds worth and your dog is what? 50 pounds? http://vetmedicine.about.com/od/toxicology/qt/nicotine-toxicity.htm
I had a husky that used to steal cigarette packs and eat them......and chewed up a whole 15ml 24mg bottle of strawberry ejuice....she also later died from a rattlesnake (she wasnt a smart dog ok) but the nic didnt do it.
I dont type this to say it's Ok, cause it's not really gotta keep this stuff out of reach of the kids.... I type it to say Watch your dog, if she is reacting....take them to a vet. IF they arnt reacting, Watch them...but I (me myself as in non vet not ecfs opinion) think she will be ok.
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Scan if you had stated that calls to the vet were made early on that would have prevented some of the more pointed responses you have gotten. Believe it or not we see many people coming to the forum as a first reaction to bad situations.
You got lucky that she's a big dog and didn't get more than she did. Take the lesson you were given and make sure it doesn't happen again.
Now that you know she can and will go after juice bottles make sure you keep them well out of her reach, not just out of sight. Pets are like toddlers they can and will find everything they are not supposed to have and the first place it will go is in their mouth.
Racehorse I did check several sources including my own vet clinic's site. I was going off the info Scan stated in the first post ie big dog = pit bull and very little to none missing from the bottle of 6mg juice. All the sources I looked at had roughly the same toxic and lethal levels. That site I linked seemed to present the info in an easy to read format. Had it been a small dog, more exposure, or that info lacking I would have answered get it to the vet.
You got lucky that she's a big dog and didn't get more than she did. Take the lesson you were given and make sure it doesn't happen again.
Now that you know she can and will go after juice bottles make sure you keep them well out of her reach, not just out of sight. Pets are like toddlers they can and will find everything they are not supposed to have and the first place it will go is in their mouth.
Racehorse I did check several sources including my own vet clinic's site. I was going off the info Scan stated in the first post ie big dog = pit bull and very little to none missing from the bottle of 6mg juice. All the sources I looked at had roughly the same toxic and lethal levels. That site I linked seemed to present the info in an easy to read format. Had it been a small dog, more exposure, or that info lacking I would have answered get it to the vet.
I stole my 3rd graders pencil box. Holds several bottles of juice two mods and any extra batteries. Cost like $10 @ wally world. Even has a shoddy lock and key. Enough to keep the little ones out and great to grab on way out door and keep all gear together.
From the ASPCA Poison Control:
https://www.aspca.org/pet-care/animal-poison-control/poison-control-okay-or-no-way
I'm sorry if you think you were getting "an argument". I was URGING YOU to seek proper advice from medical professionals for your dog.....PRONTO.
Time is of the essence in situations of accidents and poisonings with children and animals.
So if I conveyed a sense of Urgency, it's because that is what I meant to do.
Often one only has a short window of time to get a dog or child into a car and on the way to get help. Things can go south very quickly.
It is heartbreaking to see when animals are brought into veterinary hospital that I worked in and they were just a "little too late". I've seen enough tears fall to make the sea level rise a few inches.
All the firefighters and 1st Responders here tell you the same thing....."if only those people had not tried to put out that little wastepaper basket fire......instead of immediately calling 911........"
I'm all about safety. Cuz i've seen the results.
There are just times in life where there is "talking about it" and "action". Sometimes, action is the best idea.
Sorry if we got off on wrong foot.
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And for the very same reasons we are giving here, any Vet with a whit of common sense is going to tell you the same thing: Bring the dog... to the vet. No vet worth their degree is going to give you some maybesortakinda speculative diagnosis regarding a potential poisoning over the phone. We can't see the dog, the VET can't see the dog. So what is the point of asking the question again and again to people WHO CAN'T ACTUALLY SEE THE DOG!
As a dog lover -- and a fur mama -- I am strongly, strongly, strongly suggesting you at least call a 24-hour animal hotline. You asked for advice -- and there, you have it. CALL A VET. Maybe they'll tell you to watch and see, maybe they will bring you in immediately, but you need to be proactive rather than acting incredibly defensive to a group of people who are trying to help you help your dog.
The fact is, you don't know HOW much your dog consumed...you're going off whether your carpet is wet or not. I don't particularly care what else your pup gets into, only that he/she got into a substance that CAN be fatal to animals. If she's like your kid, then treat her as your would your child and get her to help she NEEDS (and for the future, put your liquid in an inaccessible place.)
The fact is, you don't know HOW much your dog consumed...you're going off whether your carpet is wet or not. I don't particularly care what else your pup gets into, only that he/she got into a substance that CAN be fatal to animals. If she's like your kid, then treat her as your would your child and get her to help she NEEDS (and for the future, put your liquid in an inaccessible place.)
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Mrs. C, ECF is a recreational vaping forum. Therefore, to me there is a big difference between giving advice in everyday situations that crop up with recreational vapers, i.e. common vaper's phenomena like canker sores, dry mouth, or vaper's tongue.
However, giving medical / veterinarian advice in the face of possible "emergency situations" is over-stepping.
When it is mandatory to have a healthy outcome, or where a life may be at stake, I don't worry about coming off as judgmental....... that is really the least of my concerns in the moment.
Pets and/or children who accidentally injest nicotine-containing eliquid should be urged to seek advice from medical / veterinarian professionals who have the expertise and training required to respond competently to emergency medical questions.
There are emergency situations where there is just no room for hunches and internet googling. .....
.......and in principle, I'd be surprised if any persons who comprise the ECF legal / moderation team would disagree.
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