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wizardofozone

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Oh yea, FS ! call me SCHOOLED ! .... The total initial investment you named is really no higher than the average starter kit where one always adds in afew 4 packs of atomizers, and nic,pv,vg, and a pyrex clearo ... Ok, I'm even making it easier on myself and going with the exact setup you just named, largest battery n all ... this unit coupled with the 4 Majestic winders and clearos should keep me silent for awhile worry wise ! I do thank you :)
 

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Now hold on, wizard! Don't take my word as law. I only offered one option. There will be a mass of opinions on this, and I believe you should take the time to examine all of the options that people put on the table for you. Watch some youtube reviews of the items you are interested in.

Don't impulse buy just yet :)
 

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Now hold on, wizard! Don't take my word as law. I only offered one option. There will be a mass of opinions on this, and I believe you should take the time to examine all of the options that people put on the table for you. Watch some youtube reviews of the items you are interested in.

Don't impulse buy just yet :)


Heh ! The man with the Silver Lining now turns around and rains on my parade !!!! GO FIGGER !!! .... Yah, but you make a good point ... I'd better wait for other comments .... :closedeyes:
 

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Ill second the kudos on the SVD :)

got mine from Fasttech for 38$ been using it for 16 months and its showing no signs of letting up....
as far as batteries... 18650 2400maH do the trick for an all day vape session ( 9$ each, got 3 to start with)
Charger was 22$ Intellicharger I2 ( dual bay)

sooo thats about 90$ for a "battery kit"
while on the other hand, the wife used to do the Ego batteries. Shes gone thru about 8 of them in the last 15 months.
her cost on batteries.... 240$
I just reciently bought another SVD due to the unforseen theft of my SVD ( the wife stole it from me but shes happy she has a battery that lasts all day)
 

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I stand behind my suggestion - the SVD setup is amazing. but there are non-replaceable battery units, like the MVP2, MVP 20 watt, iStick, that beginners tend to prefer because of the simplicity of a unit that doesn't have replaceable batteries, but are still far better quality than your standard "winder" battery.

I'm also a firm believer that vaping needs vary so widely from one person to the next, and that my own opinions may not be the right solution for you (or your wallet!)
 

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Let me give you an example of the difference in higher end vaping gear, and the lower end that you are currently using. Note that both can be satisfying in the long run, choose whichever route you find most satisfying.

Part 1: The Replaceable Battery Unit

Lots of options in this area, from the cheap, to the expensive. For this example, we'll use something in the middle of the pack, the Innokin iTaste SVD. The iTaste SVD is a sturdy and capable unit that costs about 35-40$ new if you SHOP AROUND to find the right price. That's a 40$ investment, and it WILL NOT work without batteries, which it does not come with.

iTaste SVD: 40$

Part 2: Batteries!

Here are the replaceable parts. For this, MOST people will end up using EFEST batteries, or SAMSUNG 25R, or LG HE2. Using the largest battery for the SVD, you would want an 18650 sized battery, flat top, unprotected. All three of the batteries I listed come in at or below 10$ each. They are rated somewhere between 2200mah and 3100mah each, but for budget purposes, I would start with the 2500mah batteries. Two is a good starting point, three is better. Lets call it three.

3 2500mah Unprotected (IMR) 18650 Batteries: 30$

Part 3: Charger for the batteries!

Battery safety is important, which makes investing in a good charger a good idea. An XTAR WP2 II is a good place to start, although people will tout other chargers being better (Nitecore chargers come to mind). Around 20$ is what you would look to spend on one of these, less if you shop around. Two bays = able to charge two batteries at one time. Big plus.

XTAR WP2 II: 20$

Total cost: 90$

With that setup, you would ALWAYS have at least one fresh battery to slap into the SVD when the battery in it is drained. These batteries will likely last far longer than your 900mah egos. The SVD will accept Ego or 510 threaded clearomizers, which you already have 4 of. The replacement batteries, when treated properly, can last up to 300 charge cycles, and even then, 10$ to replace one that isn't holding a charge anymore? Not a bad hit to the wallet.

All in all, these kinds of mods are a higher up front investment, but lower cost in the long run because the batteries just aren't that expensive.

Note that everyone's experiences vary. Learning about batteries and the settings available on a variable voltage/variable wattage advanced personal vaporizer, like the Provari or the SVD, takes time and some commitment.

And that's not even mentioning that devices like the istick (~$40) the MPVv2 (~$50) and the MPV20W (~$60) take all that battery hassle completely out of the equation. Basically just square eGos.
 
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I stand behind my suggestion - the SVD setup is amazing. but there are non-replaceable battery units, like the MVP2, MVP 20 watt, iStick, that beginners tend to prefer because of the simplicity of a unit that doesn't have replaceable batteries, but are still far better quality than your standard "winder" battery.

I'm also a firm believer that vaping needs vary so widely from one person to the next, and that my own opinions may not be the right solution for you (or your wallet!)

I do thank you for that utube video it taught me a lot ... had to laugh though ,these reviewers have WAAAY higher expectancies than I ever did about anything ! ... LED orientation, perfect button placement, etc ... a bit amusing . Unless I see a really extreme view that intelligently refutes the Itaste SVD I'll probably go with that ... actually that complete unit and its functions was more of what I was thinking I wanted when I got distracted by the Majestic Aro ... I wasn't convinced I wanted any type of LED screen but I kind of like knowing which Ohm coil I'm using, and a faster way these older eyes can view volts currently in use.

Im amazed the standard ARO coils I'm using do not imprint the ohms on the atomizer .... I have 2.2,1.8 and accidentally ordered 1.5's then stupidly put them all in my holding kit without thier own plastic bags ....
 
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If you do decide on the SVD, here are some suggestions.

I suggest Fasttech if you are looking for the best price on the SVD. Shipping takes a while (could be a few weeks) but is free and you'll get the item at a better price. Don't buy batteries from there though. I suggest RTDVapor.com for batteries, as they are a reliable AND registered here at the forum as a supplier. Charger from RTDVapor too. Also included a link to a vendor that selling the SVD still reasonably priced, but will ship MUCH faster in the US.

Innokin SVD
$37.14 Authentic Innokin iTaste SVD Telescopic Variable Volt/Watt APV at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

LG HE2 18650 2500mah Batteries
LG 18650HE2 2500mAh - RTD vapor
XTAR Charger
Xtar WP2 II - RTD vapor

An SVD that will probably ship much faster, but is about 6$ more!
http://www.evape.us/vape-kits/innokin-kits/insvdex/

Also worth noting that there IS an SVD Version 2.0 out now, but is twice the price and probably more powerful than your needs require. Still, worth looking at if you're feeling like going further.

I am not familiar with the ARO clearomizers or their respective atomizer heads, most popular clearomizers stick to Kanger or Aspire products (which do label their coils with the ohms).
 
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Having a MOD that either has a large internal battery OR a MOD that accepts replaceable batteries would be a good next step. Well, it would permit you to use one MOD for the whole day.

Some options were mentioned above. If the MOD has a larger internal battery, the MOD is not useable while it is charging. If the MOD has replaceable batteries, get two batteries so that a battery can be charging while the other is used. You will need a battery charger though.

Like was said, the Provari is rather expensive. The MVP 20W is a good low-end option, it has a large internal battery, rugged in comparison, and has good electronics that have been proven. It just plugs in like a phone at the end of the day.

There are others though...

Hope helps
 
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