DON'T BUY the eGo AIO!!!!! IT SUCKS

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ummmmm....walk me through how you vape. I'm thinking I might be doing it wrong....:?:

It was poetic exaggeration licence to express the level of vaping that device resides.. :)

But if you like.. try vaping differently.. hahaha..

I have a provari.. but you can't borrow it.. it's mine, all mine I tell you!
 

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People telling you sweet juice or clear juice or dark juice or glow in the dark juice will or will not make your cartridges last longer do not understand how this works. It is all about the filtration process. Juices that are run through a good filtering process, that is, one that removes as many particulates in the liquid as possible will make your coils, cartridges, and cotton last longer. Many times, you get what you pay for. Lower priced juice is not filtered as well as higher end liquids, although, there is no guarantee.

Odd, I was lead to believe that flavouring are chemical molecules that due to the high heat of the coils, some of these molecules would bond together and/or on the surface of the coil and adjacent wick, which lead to a caramelization or carbonification when hot enough (and enough mass to reduce the flowing of the cooler liquid).

Darn it... all that time in my life I've wasted on actual science when I could have simply made stuff up...
 

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Lol.. poor kid will not walk right for a week after trying that!

Hahaha..
Had a friend over which partakes in "other stuff"... she took my vape and used it like one does "the other stuff" and then went on about "wow" how dizzy she felt for a puff less than a 1/2 second. (and MTL fashion too)
 

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Odd, I was lead to believe that flavouring are chemical molecules that due to the high heat of the coils, some of these molecules would bond together and/or on the surface of the coil and adjacent wick, which lead to a caramelization or carbonification when hot enough (and enough mass to reduce the flowing of the cooler liquid).

Darn it... all that time in my life I've wasted on actual science when I could have simply made stuff up...

Sweeteners caramelize faster than the flavorings because they don't remain stable at high temperatures.

This is why we use erythritol instead of other sweeteners.. places who don't use that in place of a sweetener, their juice will gunk up coils fast. Some of my juices that are premade can gunk up a coil in a day. Others not so much..

But DIY using erythritol is much much better..
 

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I had an eGo AIO Box and I agree with the OP they SUCK!!! But the problem was easily solved. Gifted it to a friend to who loves them. Problem solved, AIO has a happy home and I'm no longer aggravated by the sight of it.

Done the same with several devices that weren't to my liking. Just the cost of learning what works for you. What would I expect from starting a thread just to bash a product that simply turned out to be not fer me?

I would suggest the OP list it in the PIF thread and send it to a good home.
 

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Odd, I was lead to believe that flavouring are chemical molecules that due to the high heat of the coils, some of these molecules would bond together and/or on the surface of the coil and adjacent wick, which lead to a caramelization or carbonification when hot enough (and enough mass to reduce the flowing of the cooler liquid).

Darn it... all that time in my life I've wasted on actual science when I could have simply made stuff up...
Simple test...lol
Light a spoonful of sugar on fire. :D
 

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I had an eGo AIO Box and I agree with the OP they SUCK!!! But the problem was easily solved. Gifted it to a friend to who loves them. Problem solved, AIO has a happy home and I'm no longer aggravated by the sight of it.

Done the same with several devices that weren't to my liking. Just the cost of learning what works for you. What would I expect from starting a thread just to bash a product that simply turned out to be not fer me?

I would suggest the OP list it in the PIF thread and send it to a good home.

This is true.. I recently pif'd in the pif thread, and my unwanted items found a happy home.

Every one is happy all the way around that way.. just the cost of learning what we like!
 

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Sweeteners caramelize faster than the flavorings because they don't remain stable at high temperatures.

This is why we use erythritol instead of other sweeteners.. places who don't use that in place of a sweetener, their juice will gunk up coils fast. Some of my juices that are premade can gunk up a coil in a day. Others not so much..

But DIY using erythritol is much much better..


Spot on.
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This is true.. I recently pif'd in the pif thread, and my unwanted items found a happy home.

Every one is happy all the way around that way.. just the cost of learning what we like!
And making someone else happy was the best part of owning that thing! ;)
 

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Sweeteners caramelize faster than the flavorings because they don't remain stable at high temperatures.

This is why we use erythritol instead of other sweeteners.. places who don't use that in place of a sweetener, their juice will gunk up coils fast. Some of my juices that are premade can gunk up a coil in a day. Others not so much..

But DIY using erythritol is much much better..

Simple test...lol
Light a spoonful of sugar on fire. :D

I've been DIY for over a year... so I kinda know the stuff inside out... I just find it sad or is that ha ha funny that someone would think that it's only about "filtration" and that everyone else has it wrong.

So you guys stop it with that science thing, we ain't no scientists here...
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I've been DIY for over a year... so I kinda know the stuff inside out... I just find it sad or is that ha ha funny that someone would think that it's only about "filtration" and that everyone else has it wrong.

So you guys stop it with that science thing, we ain't no scientists here...
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Its not science... Its rocket surgery :p
 

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I've been DIY for over a year... so I kinda know the stuff inside out... I just find it sad or is that ha ha funny that someone would think that it's only about "filtration" and that everyone else has it wrong.

So you guys stop it with that science thing, we ain't no scientists here...
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I'm not saying it's all about filtration, I'm certainly not agreeing with that poster to whom you replied.... and I'm not even disagreeing with you as a whole..

All I'm saying is that sweetened juices that are sweetened with products that aren't stable at higher heats make the problem 100x worse than most flavorings when standing alone.

Erythritol is stable at higher temperatures and therefore, it helps keep your juice from gunking up your coils as fast as other sweeteners..

I love my sweetened juices and for me it makes all the difference in the world to have a sweetener that stays stable at higher temperatures .

You still have to rewick and clean your coil, but not NEARLY as often..

For the most part, in most of our juices, it's the sweetener that is the MAIN culprit.. however it's not the ONLY culprit..
 

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I'm not saying it's all about filtration, I'm certainly not agreeing with that poster to whom you replied.... and I'm not even disagreeing with you as a whole..

All I'm saying is that sweetened juices that are sweetened with products that aren't stable at higher heats make the problem 100x worse than most flavorings when standing alone.

Erythritol is stable at higher temperatures and therefore, it helps keep your juice from gunking up your coils as fast as other sweeteners..

I love my sweetened juices and for me it makes all the difference in the world to have a sweetener that stays stable at higher temperatures .

You still have to rewick and clean your coil, but not NEARLY as often..

For the most part, in most of our juices, it's the sweetener that is the MAIN culprit.. however it's not the ONLY culprit..

And I"m agreeing with you 100%

My comments are being a bit sarcastic towards the other poster that I hope with actually reconsider his views...as they are quite bad.

Yes, all liquid that you use should be clean and no chunks or crap in it, but it's not the filtering that will prevent the flavouring/sweeteners from gunking up.

Low heat, low sweeteners will help, but there's some flavours that will still gunk up like crazy... coffee ones for example. Lucky to survive 2 days with those flavourings, even if you use the clear stuff. (as many coffee flavourings are dark)
 

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And I"m agreeing with you 100%

My comments are being a bit sarcastic towards the other poster that I hope with actually reconsider his views...as they are quite bad.

Yes, all liquid that you use should be clean and no chunks or crap in it, but it's not the filtering that will prevent the flavouring/sweeteners from gunking up.

Low heat, low sweeteners will help, but there's some flavours that will still gunk up like crazy... coffee ones for example. Lucky to survive 2 days with those flavourings, even if you use the clear stuff. (as many coffee flavourings are dark)

In his defense, as it just occurred to me.. he might have net tobacco in his head when he said that...

Nets are notorious for killing coils.. and the filtration process when making your own net flavorings is exceedingly important..

You can however filter your net flavorings down to where they don't end up being coil killers though..

So... if he does his own nets or buy nets (or both) he will focus more on the filtering process being a coil killer..

Factory made flavoring chemicals don't have the same problems or solutions as nets do..

So in this instance, we were perhaps both wrong in our initial assessment of his post, as we weren't thinking of everything..
 
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I do believe this thread is getting way too complicated for the OP since I seriously doubt they are making there own DIY or much less extracting the tobacco themselves.

True, but it all goes toward why his coils are gunking up... if he is going to vape then he does need to know its his juice, and that he can get different juice that wont create the same difficulties as the one he is having. because if hes having this (gunking coil) problem with one atomiser and battery, he will have the exact same problem with another if he is vaping at about the same wattage/power level..right now, he is blaming his device..

the discussion as a whole will teach him.. should he read it.. and he can seek out factory juice people say is not hard on coils..
 
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