Don't like low res atty
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I was the same way. I started with standard 510s on an Ego/Riva, and used LR atties and a 5V passthrough for about a week and completely quit smoking, but then went back to my standards. I still will occasionally use the LR atomizer and/or passthrough if I find a particular flavor weak (sometimes it can help, sometimes nothing will), but other than that I'm just as happy with my 510s.I used to be a non-filter smoker. So I thought I would like a hotter vape.
Turns out I don't. lol I love standard. Go figure
Looks like I won't be buying any high voltage devices either.
On the bright side, though, with just a standard attie I get at least 24 hours out of the 18650 in my BSB as opposed to whatever can be had with the dual CR2 setup in the high volt mods.
I use LR atties almost exclusively, but can definitely see why they are not for everyone. The main drawback is that they can really kill some flavors and juices with not enough flavor. In fact, I was just reminded of the fact last night when I stumbled across a discarded regular atty and wanted to see if it worked. I was pleasantly surprised by the flavor.
I used to be a non-filter smoker. So I thought I would like a hotter vape.
Turns out I don't. lol I love standard. Go figure
Looks like I won't be buying any high voltage devices either.
Yeah, I was the same way, first time I tried them. I put an LR atty on a 3.7v e-cig and it was just to hot and fried out. It's a lot like 5v. Too much for me.
Then, a while later, I put it on a 3.2v e-cig (like an eGo). And that was prefect.
Lowering the voltage of the e-cig provides less power to the atty. Putting it on a 3.7v e-cig is close to 5v, in terms to power output. But putting it on a 3.2v e-cig is more like 4.1v, in terms of power output. Just a nice bump above 3.7v, but not overkill like 5v.
Combined power output of the e-cig and the atty is measured in watts. 3.7v + LR is 9.-something watts. 5v with a regular atty is 10 watts. 3.2v + LR is 6.8 watts.
So, depending on what kind of e-cig you put it on, maybe play around.
What did you put it on, out of curiosity?
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I was using it in a T-Rex. I love the build quality of it and the battery life fits me perfect. Right now I am trying to get the the high ping cart mod to work with the T-rex carts without flooding it. I had it down perfect on the standard 510.
Not sure what voltage the T-rex is - it's either 3.2 or 3.7, but I don't know.
Ha ha, you're more ambitious than me as far as cart mods. I turned out to be incompetent at it, and went to dripping. Sounds like you're having fun though!
Ha ha, you're more ambitious than me as far as cart mods.
I turned out to be incompetent at it, and went to dripping. Sounds like you're having fun though!
my only complaint with LR's is they burn through a lot of liq other than that, i'm in heaven
other than that, i'm in heaven
I just nailed the High Ping mod on these T-rex carts the flavor is superb not burnt no plastic. I use standard 510 atty in the t-rex. The 510 atty taste a hell of alot different in the rex than a standard joy. I don't like the the stock. From what I have read the t-rex is 3.7-4.2. I love the button never sticks. Modding carts can be alot of trial and error, but once you get it down right the pay of is huge. I am to lazy to drip. lol
Mistress, I build magic effects and illusions for a living for me modding and making things is a blast.
SLim, Your right LR burn through liquid.
I personal Like a throat hit with a cool vapor exhale.
Mistress, I build magic effects and illusions for a living for me modding and making things is a blast.
SLim, Your right LR burn through liquid.
I personal Like a throat hit with a cool vapor exhale.
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The 510 and the eGo are also listed as being 3.7v by vendors, but they actually run at 3.2v due to some aspect of their electrical composition (I can't for the life of me remember what it is), which is why I'm not sure about the T-rex.
But if it tastes different to you, it may be a true 3.7v (or slightly over, on a full charge). Does it taste warmer with more vapor? That would suggest that it's a true 3.7v.
Magic effects? Damn, I want your job!
so am i right when i say that. my riva 3.7 burns out lr atty's,so i went to 2.2 ohm or so atty that the watt would be about 4?
Cryptkeeper197, I'm not that fond of the LRs either. They "burn" the juice. Not enough nichrome to hold up either.
3.7 * 3.7 / 2.2 = 6.22 watts... but I think a Riva is really about 3.2 ish..... so 3.2 * 3.2 / 2.2 = 4.65 watts if I did that correctly.....
Where the LR atty at 1.5 ohms is: 3.2 * 3.2 / 1.5 = 6.8 watts
The real question is... How many watts can an LR atty handle? Meh.
Also, that wattage is hard on the eGo/Riva button circuit/MOSFET. If it doesn't burn out the atty, it may be real hard on the battery. Prolly varies a bit by brand of atty.
I think the 2.2 ohm is a great move.
3.7 * 3.7 / 2.2 = 6.22 watts... but I think a Riva is really about 3.2 ish..... so 3.2 * 3.2 / 2.2 = 4.65 watts if I did that correctly.....
Where the LR atty at 1.5 ohms is: 3.2 * 3.2 / 1.5 = 6.8 watts
The real question is... How many watts can an LR atty handle? Meh.
Also, that wattage is hard on the eGo/Riva button circuit/MOSFET. If it doesn't burn out the atty, it may be real hard on the battery. Prolly varies a bit by brand of atty.
I think the 2.2 ohm is a great move.
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The T-rex Kit I got came with a 2.8 and a 2.2. Atomizers are basically alot like glow plugs. You could hook up a small 12v battery to a 1.5 volt glow plug and it would not heat up. Amps create heat not volts.
People who do not understand electrical theory should not try to speak with authority.
Spoken Truly like House. lol
Well if am off the the amps things ok, but a small 12 battery will not heat up a 1.5 volt glow.
Feel free to enlighten me or not. lol
Well if am off the the amps things ok, but a small 12 battery will not heat up a 1.5 volt glow.
Feel free to enlighten me or not. lol
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A "small" 12V battery won't light up your glow plug because it will not put out 12V into that load. Put a meter on the battery when it is hooked up to the glow plug and you will see that the battery voltage is probably well below 1V.
Ohms Law..... it's not just a good idea... it's the Law. ;-)
It would not heat it up because it would burn it out in a heart beat. I remember trying a 6 volt lantern battery on a 1.5 volt .049 airplane glow plug when I was a kid. Poofed it immediately.
Edit: Uh, what is your definition of a small 12volt battery?
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lol. I just went thought this discussion myself from another angle in a different thread. Basically, it's volts AND amps that create the heat. You need the volts to push the amps through. And the amps are limited by the resistance, as well as what the source can put out. (at least I think that's close to it). I see what you mean about amps, but volts count. A 100 volt connection with 0 amps is still nothing. But..........
Think about the source's amps as the size of the reservoir "pipe" to draw from per second. So, at a given voltage, say 5 volts to use a nice even number, a 2.2 ohm atty will draw 2.27273 amps of power (assuming that the source can put out that many amps). Even if you hook it up to a large battery with, say, 10 amps, it will still only allow/draw 2.27273 amps. lol. I made the same mistake of thinking that amps "push" through the circuit with the volts. They don't. The voltage is what really makes it work out through a fixed resistance. At least, that's what I've been told by a couple of really smart guys.
At risk of proving myself a ....-head (again), see this discussion of my brain-fart:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-please-help-booster-problem.html#post2173685
In particular post #8
P.S. The calculation above with the volts is part of Ohm's Law or one of the derivatives. Power = Voltage squared divided by resistance, or E = V*V / R
Of course, if a battery can't source enough amps, as is the case with many small batteries, it's a moot point.
Hope this helps.
P.P.S. FYI - I find that LR atties are different than regular atties at (somewhat) higher voltages. IDK why yet, but I think that there's more to it than just the wattage. It may be different with different brands of atties too. So if you get a chance to try, say, a "5v" PT with a 2.5 - 3.0 ohm atty that you like, you might want to give it a shot as an experiment. Just say'n....
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I am talking a small one used in garage door opens. lol small than a triple A. They won't burn out a 1.5 volt glow plug. They won't even light it up. Not enough Amps. I build small devices for igniting flash cotton and flash paper. So I am always trying to make the units as small as possible.
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Yeap, your right its Volts + Amps your need the right amount of both. Just did some reading on it myself. Learn something new every day.
The 510 and the eGo are also listed as being 3.7v by vendors, but they actually run at 3.2v due to some aspect of their electrical composition (I can't for the life of me remember what it is), which is why I'm not sure about the T-rex.
But if it tastes different to you, it may be a true 3.7v (or slightly over, on a full charge). Does it taste warmer with more vapor? That would suggest that it's a true 3.7v.
Magic effects? Damn, I want your job!
Yes the 510 atty is warmer with a bit more vapor on the T-rex battery. It is a 3.7 unregulated battery.
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