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Discussion in 'Liquid Feed APV Discussion' started by inswva, Nov 16, 2017.

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  1. inswva

    inswva Do you even squonk, bro? Verified Member ECF Veteran

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  2. Walter_Sobchak

    Walter_Sobchak Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Sep 30, 2017
    Indiana
    Here's a review of it.

     
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  3. Ben85

    Ben85 Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 16, 2014
    Kent, UK
    It’s the other way round :shock:! I am looking for an alloy squonk, so will add this to the research list.
     
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  4. Asbestos4004

    Asbestos4004 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 11, 2013
    Sugar Hill, Georgia
    Excellent option for a lefty. I'm a lefty. Unfortunately, Im not a big fan of the company these days.
     
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  5. Asbestos4004

    Asbestos4004 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 11, 2013
    Sugar Hill, Georgia
  6. Asbestos4004

    Asbestos4004 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 11, 2013
    Sugar Hill, Georgia
    Seriously?
     
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  7. VictorViper

    VictorViper Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 22, 2013
    Vancouver
    DotMod fell out of my favour a while ago, but I'll probably have to snap one of these up.

    [EDIT] Well that didn't take long. Impressions forthcoming.
     
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  8. VictorViper

    VictorViper Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 22, 2013
    Vancouver
    Ok not much to say out of the box, these things need abuse to show their stuff, but a few points anyway. I'm short on time so the structure is going to suffer for it...

    It has a nice build quality, fit and finish. Gold plating on the 510 looks a bit cheap. Button isn't crunchy at all but does feel like the spring needs a break-in. My back panel (solid, logo) will rattle just slightly if you try, but in normal handling it doesn't budge. The edges could be rounder, door magnets are... sufficient. 510 tension could be just a touch stronger. The double flange design at the bottom of the pin is a nice touch. The bottle is fabulous, enormous, the embellishment on the bottle is understated and a nice touch.

    Line break!

    I haven't got a 20700 yet which means I'm using the included 18650 adapter and it's working a treat. Vented, too. Nice. Not nice are the hoops I'm going to need to jump through to blow this thing apart. It's working out of the box, but until I can give it a proper teardown I'm just taking teaser vapes.

    The size difference with my Octopus is reasonable, but really becomes shocking when you consider it carries 7ml more juice and supports a 20700. The weight differential is enormous, however, but it'll be a reasonable concession for a long day (or two) away from home.

    Oh, and I'm a lefty, so this is nice. Will see how it holds up. Dotmod........
     
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  9. VictorViper

    VictorViper Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 22, 2013
    Vancouver
    Popping in with an update (and a triple post, no less. Popular mod :rolleyes:).

    I used one of the included o-rings for the 510 plate, and now said plate is firmly fused to my Hadaly. This will be fixed easily when I get home and have access to something that will properly grip the connector for me, but something to note. The entire 510 assembly is encased in what appears to be PEEK (very nice), but as a result, the 510 plate unscrews very easily.

    Again, not a big deal, just something to be aware of. Hell, most people won't even figure out what those o-rings are even for.

    Anyway, kicking along with it. Hits consistently, no real gripes with the button thus far whatsoever. And again, that bottle. Glorious.
     
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  10. inswva

    inswva Do you even squonk, bro? Verified Member ECF Veteran

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  11. jfcooley

    jfcooley I find your lack of faith disturbing... Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    For those that have one, the o-ring on the 510 pin is causing a little concern.

    When I use it it appears the atty is crooked, or tilted a little. Maybe it's just my eyes. Anyone notice this?

    (Yes, threaded correctly)
     
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  12. VictorViper

    VictorViper Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 22, 2013
    Vancouver
    No tilt for me. It does mean the atty is raised a hair, but otherwise it's level.
     
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  13. jfcooley

    jfcooley I find your lack of faith disturbing... Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Thanks. I'll have to investigate what I'm doing wrong then.
     
  14. michliu

    michliu Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 24, 2012
    Seattle, WA
    I have two of them and no crooked atties here.
     
  15. VictorViper

    VictorViper Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 22, 2013
    Vancouver
    POS, do not buy.

    I had been waiting until I had some time to write up a full assessment but time is short. This is a garbage mod thanks to a horrible switch design and mine has totally failed on me after brief, and light use.

    Furthermore, disassembly confirmed my suspicion that this is not a mechanical device. Better stuff out there for cheaper, move along. Dot Mod has disappointed once again.

    Rushed to market, stay away.
     
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  16. michliu

    michliu Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 24, 2012
    Seattle, WA
    @VictorViper I would love to know more about what you've discovered. I ordered one and liked it enough to buy another. First one was perfect, second is getting a warranty replacement because the button rattles and sits shorter. Most importantly, it would sometimes not fire when pressed. This all led me to believe it was the spring, and since Breazy is replacing, I didn't want to crack it open to fix it myself. I have a buddy who also purchased one and also has the same misfire issue, but his button doesn't rattle.
     
  17. VictorViper

    VictorViper Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 22, 2013
    Vancouver
    No rattle for me, but the misfire issue does indeed seem to be due to the 510 and not the button (though the solder job on mine is seriously laughable and WILL cause a permanent issue eventually).

    I'll try to get a post in today with more details. It's a gorgeous mod and I'm still using mine after fixing it (man, does 3000mAh at 30A raise the bar. Hard to go back to 18650s), but the design flaw inherent to the working area of the mod and the fact that this is not a true mech are serious negatives and it remains that I don't recommend this mod to anyone.

    Will edit this later with more detail about the design, sadly did not take pics when I blew it up.

    Needs to be said that royal blue and gold mate with Ultem in a gorgeous contrasty pair. Hardly what counts but it really is a beautiful device.
     
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  18. michliu

    michliu Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 24, 2012
    Seattle, WA
    Please do post when you get the chance, I am very interested in your findings.
     
  19. VictorViper

    VictorViper Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 22, 2013
    Vancouver
    Alright, I'll try my best to be concise here, and will try to get some images up eventually to "showcase" the innards and what we're dealing with.

    I tend to get wordy, so I'll stick to the three main offenders, as I see them:

    1) This is sold and advertised as a mechanical device. There may be some semantics to debate here, but the device uses a wire, which is soldered to the positive switch. Unregulated, yes. Mechanical, no.
    - On that note, the wire is connected to the positive (moving) end and thus moves with every draw. This connection is on borrowed time.
    - All of the working components arenestled into a beautifully thought out plastic (maybe delrin) housing that slides in and out of the body to ensure no shorts on the body. Hysterically, the housing is open on either end, so if the wire moves out of place just a little, you have a hard short waiting to happen. Side note, all connections are isolated, so that's something good.
    2) The 510 construction houses the pin, top plate and switch mechanism in what appears to be a PEEK block. This poses a few problems in a few areas:
    - The 510 pin is held in place by a small metal disc that is not easily removed. It can be done, but I'm not confident most people could do so without breaking something, even with tools.
    - Due to the soldered wire, the switch assembly cannot be fully broken down.
    - The PEEK block combines with the 510 plate on either side of the body/enclosure, and then is held in place by two tiny hex screws (one of which is obscured by the back panel) that literally pinch things into place. There are no notches or anchor points, you just crush the plastic as much as you dare.
    3) Yes, star-head drivers are reasonably easy to come by. No, I dont find it acceptable to need specialist tools to get into my device. Mechanical or not, this is an unregulated device and requires routine maintenance/inspection. Aside from some heavy-handed attempt at forcing consumers into warranty service, I see no reason for this decision.

    There are some really nice things going on with this little device, even a couple of slick design moves that should be implemented in future products. But the missteps are big ones and come with very real safety concerns in the long term (and certainly very possibly the short term). Routine maintenance is essentially all but impossible due to the switch design.

    I might dig into the nice bits at some point, but since this is a new product from a popular brand, it feels irresponsible to point out anything else right now. I'll try to be in a position to take pics next time I tear this thing down. Given the troubles I've been having I may attempt a full disassembly of the switch too, since at this point what would be the harm?
     
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  20. inswva

    inswva Do you even squonk, bro? Verified Member ECF Veteran

    @VictorViper Thanks for the detailed critique. I was really considering this mod, especially at the price Breazy was selling it for recently. However, I'm a bit reticent now. I have enough BF mods to last me several lifetimes and am no stranger to modding my mods but, based on your feedback, I think I'm going to pass on this one. A shame, really, as it's a very nice looking device and I'm partial to unregulated squonks.
     
  21. VictorViper

    VictorViper Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 22, 2013
    Vancouver
    Semi-related but ultimately a random comment: Man, am I sold on 20700s. Still using this beautiful piece of junk because of it.
     
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