So, a few weeks ago I went to buy a new tank for my EGO (I've used EGO's for 3 yrs. on and off). I left the store with a Caravela Clone and RSST and Genesis tank... I really enjoy how clean my juice tastes and the plumes of vapor. The store makes wicks and coils for free if you bring the materials in but, knowing I was going home (I was on an extended vacation at the time) I took to the internet to find tips on making my own. I have read some post about concerns for safety with mech mods especially for newbies and I got scared. I read and read and read posts and decided to get a VAMO with IBTank (only because I could not get an EVIC local and really like to see and feel things before I buy). My happy vaping days have ended. Despite playing with the voltage and wattage it just doesn't compare to the Caravela clone. I've tried Boge cartos amd Smok cartos in low resistance and standard resistance. There is nothing I have done so far to mimic or even get close to that full throat hit, clean juice taste, plumes of vapor satisfaction that I get with the clone and rsst. HELP! I do not want to risk my safety and really wish the sales guy had told me that there were possible dangers (stupid on my part for not thinking about it at the time, I know). While I was not truly happy with the EGO, I didn't know that there was anything else out there and just thought I would always somewhat want a cigarette. Now that I know there is something better (and have ZERO cravings for an analog when using my clone), I'm having a hard time enjoying the VAMO. Any thoughts on how to make my clone safer (I prefer doing that since it and the RBA's were more expensive) or making my VAMO more enjoyable or a better vv/vw to buy? The main problems with the VAMO being the pull is too long and difficult, it's noisier (constant gurgle sound) plus there just isn't the same amount of vaper (even with the same juice that I use in my rsst). The ok spot with the VAMO is 1.7 cartomizer, 3.0 v, 9.0w but the sweet spot with the clone is rsst between .5ohm (wonderful) - 1.5ohm (will do). I am aware I can get a multimeter or just use the VAMO to test my RSST but, from what I've read there will still be safety concerns. Thank you in advance.
Downgrading from mech mod to vv/vw?
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Welcome to ECT, ladyalchemy.
I use a 2.8-3.0 ohms tripple punched carto in my tank, set the vamo at around 8.5 watts, (on #2) vapes pretty well.
Might work for you.
Vape'n On..
Billy P.
I use a 2.8-3.0 ohms tripple punched carto in my tank, set the vamo at around 8.5 watts, (on #2) vapes pretty well.
Might work for you.
Vape'n On..
Billy P.
if your worried about safety there is a couple options.
first if the mod uses a spring for the battery you could go to one of the topshelf mod makers and het a hot spring, it will collapse from a hard short.
then there is the vapesafe fuse or atmizoo's new "bug" fuse. (7 amp limit)
and you can also use the protected batteries but i dont think any of these will work with a .5 amp coil.
.5 is kinda low for most of the safety features. but since you seem to be concerned with the safety and obviously have done your homework as long as your careful and pay attention there shouldnt be any real issues. you can tell when theres a short, the mod gets real hot, real fast.
the vamo makes a great MM for an atty, thats all mine is used for anymore.
keep vaping, keep paying attention the way you already are and I think you are good to go on the clone.
first if the mod uses a spring for the battery you could go to one of the topshelf mod makers and het a hot spring, it will collapse from a hard short.
then there is the vapesafe fuse or atmizoo's new "bug" fuse. (7 amp limit)
and you can also use the protected batteries but i dont think any of these will work with a .5 amp coil.
.5 is kinda low for most of the safety features. but since you seem to be concerned with the safety and obviously have done your homework as long as your careful and pay attention there shouldnt be any real issues. you can tell when theres a short, the mod gets real hot, real fast.
the vamo makes a great MM for an atty, thats all mine is used for anymore.
keep vaping, keep paying attention the way you already are and I think you are good to go on the clone.
I kind of wondered that myself. If you are getting gurgling you have flooded the carto.
.5 ohms at 4 volts is 32 watts, you'll never hit that on the Vamo. 1.5 ohms is 10.6666 watts, the Vamo will do that.
You can't expect to get much from 3.0 volts, a 1.7 ohms coil at 3 volts is only 5.3 watts. You either use volts or wattage settings on the Vamo, you can't adjust both at the same time. So you are either running at 3 volts, or 9 watts. 9 watts with a 1.7 ohm coil is 3.9 volts. Check out ohms law. You can safely use a mech, but you need to know the basics of ohms law, and you need to use batteries that can handle the rate of discharge you are putting them through.
I would recommend you spend some time on the forum reading about mechs and batteries.
Here's a ohm chart to help you with the above advice which I would second, TheSteve is wise 
Safe Vaping Power | Voltage | Resistance | Ohm Chart
Safe Vaping Power | Voltage | Resistance | Ohm Chart
GuusS, I am not wrapping consistent 1.5 yet. The store where I purchased the clone wrapped for free so they were doing it and it varied from person to person. I only know those numbers because they almost always tested them before assembling them to my clone.
Thank you Thrasher, I will look into the fuse, hot spring and protected battery. Also, thank you for stating that it will get real hot real fast. Out of all the things I have read that speak of the dangers, no one really mentioned what the warning signs would be. I had some vision of an 80's style cartoon character with the blown up cigar stuck in my head. I feel a bit better now.
There are always going to be safety concerns. Cell phone batteries have burned as well as laptop batteries. Bic lighters have started fires in people's pockets. People drive cars even though there were 34,000 fatalities in the US last year. I have no info on this, but I suspect the injury rate was much higher. There have never been any safety events with mechanical mods and RBA's that I am aware of.
Have a look at a RDA's with micro coils. You can get a lot of information on them here. Basically this get's you close to SLR performance without the super low resistance and lets you do it with VV/VW regulated devices. Best of all worlds in my opinion.
Have a look at a RDA's with micro coils. You can get a lot of information on them here. Basically this get's you close to SLR performance without the super low resistance and lets you do it with VV/VW regulated devices. Best of all worlds in my opinion.
you can use a RDA on a vamo. at 1.8 ohms mine is doing just fine. is a cheap RDA from FT but man i'm loving it. my carto tanks and RBA's have not been used for 3 months, since i got the RDA. im so pleased with it that im thinking of getting a REO, REOMIZER combo
TheSteve, Maybe gurgle is not the best word to describe it. I just tried it again and it is a bubbly, hissy wet whistle that is present when I use the tank on the vamo but, it sounds normal on my ego and with my clone I have to really pull hard to get a minimum amount of vaper. I will check ohms law and read more about mechs and batteries. I've noticed there aren't that many threads (or discussion on the internet) about the caravela clone I have (ehpro). Lots on the real caravela but limited on the clone. However, I will keep looking and learning. Thank you very much for the advice.
Thank you Ryedan, I will check the RDA's out. I am aware that lots of things we use on a day to day have some level of safety concern. However, not all of them could potentially blow up while in my mouth...vanity plays a large part in this also. I'm new to this mech mod stuff (coming from an ego) and read a member's post that was less empowering than I am finding the responses here. The post just made mech mods sound so dangerous in the hands of newbies instead of providing alternatives that may work or giving info on what to research to be as safe as possible.
RDA w/ a fuse or protected battery if your worried about safety and your good to go. Once I went mech and got the satisfaction of setting up my own sub ohm setup I never looked back none of my VV/VW devices come close. I prefer the drip as well for my daily due to me only dripping as I vape and not worrying about leakage. I drilled out my air hole and just get nice clean hits with clouds of vape.
Personally I prefer 28 gauge A1 Kanthal in a 3-4 wrap getting between .7-.9 ohms or in a dual if I choose to go lower around .3-.4 ohms.
As stated earlier lots of things have risk involved there are much bigger risks to be concerned with so long as your maintaining and keeping an eye on your batteries. Also I don't think while there is a chance of it blowing up in your mouth there a greater chance of many other things happening which could cause you harm.
I just keep an eye on my batteries. I don't use a fuse, protected battery, ect...Do so for the safety factor so long as it makes you feel better about it and you enjoy your vaping more which is all that really matters anyways.
Personally I prefer 28 gauge A1 Kanthal in a 3-4 wrap getting between .7-.9 ohms or in a dual if I choose to go lower around .3-.4 ohms.
As stated earlier lots of things have risk involved there are much bigger risks to be concerned with so long as your maintaining and keeping an eye on your batteries. Also I don't think while there is a chance of it blowing up in your mouth there a greater chance of many other things happening which could cause you harm.
I just keep an eye on my batteries. I don't use a fuse, protected battery, ect...Do so for the safety factor so long as it makes you feel better about it and you enjoy your vaping more which is all that really matters anyways.
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