The deal with the Phoenix is that it is difficult to install the wick correctly.But if you do install it correctly it will hold more than just a couple of drops. It it a little like those old school cartridges with the foam insert as far as juice capacity. And using those was like dripping because you constantly had to rejuice them. They really didn't hold much, but they held more than a bare atty. Now you can get the flavor of a bare atty with the capacity of the little black foam filled cartridge and it is a lot cheaper than dripping on a bare atty because the wicks are cheap. It's just a lot of work replacing wicks.