Driving and Dripping

[Adamcbates]

I guess you also feel it's dangerous adjusting the volume on the radio as that takes more effort than dripping.

As an ex roll your own, as I keep saying, I could roll and drive and not take my eyes off the road ahead and around me, as i instintivly knew where my tobacco was and could roll one handed, but to change the radio station I need to glance over as I cannot operate the control from memory.

When I was drip driving, it seemed to naturally fit into the flow, Ii never once felt as if I had 'missed something' or failed tomove when required to do so by the other stationary vehicles in front.

Adam

 

[Pav]

I guess you also feel it's dangerous adjusting the volume on the radio as that takes more effort than dripping.

No I don't. Unless your radio uses liquid being pushed out of a dropper onto a small circular area to change the volume it does not take more effort to adjust the radio.

I can change my volume without taking my eyes off the road by turning the volume knob which is a few inches from my steering wheel, or the volume adjust on my steering wheel.

 

[ab357]

My only response to your whole post is, BS. I know it when I see it. If you're supposed to serve and protect, then dangerous driving is in direct conflict with your purpose.

Furthermore, the things I observe have nothing to do with helicopters or drug deals ... just plain sloppy driving.


EDIT: If you're trying to defend the driving habits of police officers, good luck.

POST EDIT: Will I hear knocking on my door any moment?

Like I said, your prejudice is showing. And you have no idea what the things you observe has to do with regarding their job. Are you on their radio band?


How many academies have you gone through to gather all your expert analytical skills? Come back and tell us how it was BS when cops do all the things you've complained about if you have to dial 911 and tell them someone is outside your door with a gun.

Fortunately for you, they won't come with their lights and sirens blazing up to your door.

And yes, the black helicopter is on the way to you as we post.

 

[ab357]

No I don't. Unless your radio uses liquid being pushed out of a dropper onto a small circular area to change the volume it does not take more effort to adjust the radio.

I can change my volume without taking my eyes off the road by turning the volume knob which is a few inches from my steering wheel, or the volume adjust on my steering wheel.

And you drip with both hands on the steering wheel right in your natural line of sight. It takes more effort to drink a cup of coffee.

 

[Upinthehills]

How on earth did this become about police officers and their driving skills?

I do drip and drive, but it's always at stops. I know exactly where I'll be stopping and plan accordingly.

 

[NCC]

Like I said, your prejudice is showing.

You've made that accusation twice, without warrant. My evidence is eyewitness.

And yes, the black helicopter is on the way to you as we post.

Get a grip.

 

[Adamcbates]

without an accident to my blame.

Jus to be pedantic, is that really possible, I think there are only 1 or maybe 2 ways you cannot be partly to blame due to lack of observation.

For instance, a rear ender from a car following too closely, you could have help aid in reducing the risk of that accident by increasing the distance between you and the vehicle in front so that you can react in an appropriate mannor for both the car infront AND behind.

I think it was mentioned earlier about 'the right'. It is not your right to only be aware of your car, if there is a nonse behind, you adjust your driving to account for that bad driving and make everyones driving safer!

Only 1 example, but it works for alot of driving safety issues.

Adam

 

[NCC]

For instance, a rear ender from a car following too closely, you could have help aid in reducing the risk of that accident by increasing the distance between you and the vehicle in front so that you can react in an appropriate mannor for both the car infront AND behind.

In my instance: I noticed the tailgater several blocks before my turn. I put on my turn signal well before I normally would have done. In response, the driver backed off.

I was making a left hand turn off of a two lane road (maybe confusing to a brit), due to oncoming traffic, I had to come to a complete stop before making the turn. The car which hit me from behind (had been tailgating) chose to pass me on the right (illegal here). They didn't clear me, and hit me.

Their insurance paid 100% of the repair.

 

[ab357]

How on earth did this become about police officers and their driving skills?

I do drip and drive, but it's always at stops. I know exactly where I'll be stopping and plan accordingly.

Simple prejudice. Can't you tell? If people were dripping irresponsibly, they would be having accidents. The facts speak for themselves. People are more likely to spill their coffee while driving. Or smokers accidentally dropping their analog.

IF... If I accidentally missed my drip tip, oh wow! A drop of juice on my floor.

 

[Pav]

And you drip with both hands on the steering wheel right in your natural line of sight. It takes more effort to drink a cup of coffee.

Well ok. But my concern comes from both hands not being fully on the wheel (you have to hold the juice in one and the ecig in the other right?) and the possibility of dropping things.

Yes, you can do it, just like you can text. Heck I can eat a donut while steering and shifting the gears but I don't. I think it is distracting.

Let me ask, as an officer do you have anti-texting laws where work? Do you agree with them?

 

[NCC]

I'm outta here, unless to respond to the OP.

 

[ab357]

In my instance: I noticed the tailgater several blocks before my turn. I put on my turn signal well before I normally would have done. In response, the driver backed off.

I was making a left hand turn off of a two lane road (maybe confusing to a brit), due to oncoming traffic, I had to come to a complete stop before making the turn. The car which hit me from behind (had been tailgating) chose to pass me on the right (illegal here). They didn't clear me, and hit me.

Their insurance paid 100% of the repair.

Are you even in an urban area?

 

[ab357]

It's not prejudice, it is rational observation. Why would I need prejudice, when the evidence is obvious? I question that you even know what the word means.

What evidence? You haven't presented any anecdotal evidence. You haven't even claimed to see a police car have or cause an accident.

 

[Adamcbates]

NCC, Your right, I dont fully understand the roads in the states, as I am a brit. I do understand driving on the right though, I worked, and drove in Germany for part of a year.

Over here, if a car stops suddenly in front of you, you naturally steer left (Left is the opposite direction to that which has traffic coming in the opposite direction) so would naturally assume and know it applies in Germany, that if the same happens, you would need to steer right to aviod the car infront, and the oncoming traffic lane.

Also, Over here, insurance pays out 100% as it is deemed that the person that drives into the back of the car in front was to blame. Due to lack of observation, safe distance between cars, etc.

but could you have helped the situation. why stop so suddenly, did you not notice the stationary cars on the road you were merging into?

Im not picking at your driving, just commenting on observation that all driviers need to take. This topic after all has brought up safety and observation as its main concern.

Adam

 

[NCC]

What evidence? You haven't presented any anecdotal evidence. You haven't even claimed to see a police car have or cause an accident.

Tailgating, lane changes without signals, turning onto highways directly to the far lane, the list is endless. But, who's to complain?

As I said in my last post, I'm done here unless I feel like responding to the OP.
Your attitude is an example of what I'm talking about, and Pav deserves your attention.

 

[ab357]

Well ok. But my concern comes from both hands not being fully on the wheel (you have to hold the juice in one and the ecig in the other right?) and the possibility of dropping things.

Yes, you can do it, just like you can text. Heck I can eat a donut while steering and shifting the gears but I don't. I think it is distracting.

Let me ask, as an officer do you have anti-texting laws where work? Do you agree with them?

I am no longer an active duty law enforcement officer. I have moved up bit. I live in Chgo. and work in DC. Both have anti texting and anti cell phone laws. I totally agree with them.

For those not experienced, this is likely the typical dripping while driving routine. You pull up to a red light, you realize now would be a good time to redrip. You have your VP in your left hand (still on the steering wheel), with your right hand you drip. You put down your juice, hold your e-cig however you prefer, you wait for the light to turn green and you resume on your way.

The most likely way you would be involved in an accident is if someone behind you doesn't notice the red light and plow into you. It's not rocket science.

 

[NCC]

but could you have helped the situation. why stop so suddenly, did you not notice the stationary cars on the road you were merging into

#1, I didn't stop suddenly. As I stated, I signaled several blocks before my turn because I had noticed the car tailgating me. He backed off, as I hoped.
Where in my post did I indicate I stopped suddenly?

#2, What stationary cars???? There were none. I had to come to a complete stop because there were vehicles coming from the opposite direction. No merging involved. Just trying to make a turn and waiting for oncoming traffic in the other lane.

 

[Adamcbates]

The most likely way you would be involved in an accident is if someone behind you doesn't notice the red light and plow into you.

Thats one of my 'not to blame' options as there is nothing you can do to avoid it.

Adam

 

[lmrasch]

I won't say what my suspicions are regarding a "certain" poster on this thread...meh...
And as far as dripping and driving, do whatever you wish. As vapers we already have an uphill climb in being able to keep our right to vape....so, let's just give people more reasons to object, sheesh...

 

[ab357]

As I said in my last post, I'm done here unless I feel like responding to the OP.
Your attitude is an example of what I'm talking about, and Pav deserves your attention.

And as I said, your attitude displays a combination of prejudice and ignorance of law enforcement procedure.

I think I've adequately addressed PAV's post.