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vise

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...I have skipped ordering from places before because they use some other processor that I don't want to sign up for.

I hear ya Mopar! There is the Canadian equivalent (and I use the term lightly!) of PP that gets me running in the other direction as soon as I see their logo! That place is Kryptonite to my wallet!
 

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I vaped by a cop the other day and got sketched out :D

I had this massive drag and I look over and there's an undercover cruiser next to me... next thing I know this MASSIVE white cloud comes out... he didn't do anything - maybe he was not paying attention... I was sketched though because I thought he may think it was weed or something. Cigarettes don't make that kind of "phat clouds" :D
 

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local newspaper is running this story today,

Windsor drivers are being driven to distraction by talking and texting and smoking behind the wheel, according to a new study by Allstate insurance Canada that employed students and insurance agents as street-level snoops.

Over a one hour period Wednesday, from 7:30 a.m. to 8:30 a.m., local Allstate agents stood sentry at the intersection of Lauzon Parkway and Tecumseh Road East. They were aghast at the number of distraction-infractions they witnessed.

Windsor drivers were busted for 59 incidents of distracted driving, from talking on the phone — 15 drivers — to eating or drinking — 21 drivers — to smoking that sweet, sweet commuter cigarette — 12 drivers. Four drivers were caught texting, three were spotted talking to passengers and one was spotted using an electronic device. Two were cited for multiple infractions and one driver was cited for ‘other’ distraction. (Hopefully that ‘other’ distraction wasn’t being blinded by those fire-orange Raise A Reader shirts!) The only thing we weren’t caught doing, unlike drivers in other Canadian cities, was grooming ourselves or looking for objects in the car.

All told, Allstate’s street sleuths uncovered 1,421 incidents of distracted driving from Windsor and other cities like Edmonton, Montreal, Toronto, Calgary, Sudbury, Ottawa, Halifax and Moncton. The most common occurrence was eating while driving, an infraction committed by 25 per cent of the cited drivers.

“Driving while distracted is the equivalent of driving after drinking four beers, so even one distracted driver is one too many,” said Allstate spokeswoman Saskia Matheson in a news release. “Taking your eyes off the road for five seconds while driving at 90 km/h is like driving the length of a football field completely blind.”

So, I went to the press release here ALLSTATE INSURANCE COMPANY OF CANADA | Despite legislation, distracted driving remains common says Allstate Canada

Students from Riverview High School in the Greater Moncton area, Rosemount High School in Montreal and Northern Secondary School in Toronto counted distracted drivers between 7:30 a.m. and 8:30 a.m. at one busy intersection in each city by standing discreetly on all four corners to determine the type and number of distractions.

Key findings from the Blow the Whistle driver tally:

There was a total of 802 distractions counted over the hour from the student tallies, with 199 taking place in Toronto, 314 in Montreal, and 289 in Moncton;
An additional 619 of distractions were also counted by Allstate Agents, with 190 in Calgary, 151 in Edmonton, 59 in Sudbury, 63 in Ottawa, 59 in Windsor, and 97 in Halifax;
Eating/drinking was the most common distraction, with a total of 25 per cent of all distracted driving behavior in all nine cities;
This was followed by talking to other passengers and smoking that came in second and third respectively at 17 per cent and 16 per cent;
Talking on a phone or texting made up 15 per cent of all counted distractions;

Uhm, I'm not distracted smoking/vaping at a red light. Who the hell would be?
 

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Eating/drinking was the most common distraction, with a total of 25 per cent of all distracted driving behavior in all nine cities;
This was followed by talking to other passengers and smoking that came in second and third respectively at 17 per cent and 16 per cent;
Talking on a phone or texting made up 15 per cent of all counted distractions;

Talking to passengers? Really? Yeesh.

But it's fine to plaster the highway with billboard advertisements. It's not distracting when the guvment makes money, see.
 
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anaconda:
laws are for people who follow them and/or have common sense. i dont like the fact that gov't tells me what i can and can't do. i use a hands free, but at the same time i usually have only one hand on the wheel anyways, does it matter if the second hand is on the shifter, cigarette, coffee or a phone? no it doesnt, hell even with a hands free one can be distracted and cause an accident. at the same time ive seen more careless driving by people who stare at the road scared .....less grasping the wheel in both hands.

mopar:
Ive used ebay, not anymore. basically dont like their policy. Agreed about the reo payment options though. when im ready to buy one ill msg the guy and see if he will be able to accept other forms of payment, if not ill see if someone with a paypal account would be able to help out
 

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Talking to passengers? Really? Yeesh.

But it's fine to plaster the highway with billboard advertisements. It's not distracting when the guvment makes money, see.

almost daily i drive down the hwy in downtown toronto, came as a passenger once and i was amazed at all the billboards that i didnt notice when i was driving.
 

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Talking to passengers? Really? Yeesh.

But it's fine to plaster the highway with billboard advertisements. It's not distracting when the guvment makes money, see.

Especially that bloody "Retina Burner" of a billboard on the corner of Gretzy and 118th by the Coliseum! At night, you'd better be wearing shades when you come up on it, It'll blind ya!
 

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Regarding all those people that got tickets - I wasn't there obviously so I don't know - BUT they MUST have been distracted enough not to spot the cops. I'm not going to say I'm a model driver - but I'm aware enough of my surroundings that I can spot a cop and I TRY not to do anything that's going to draw too much attention to me... xept for when I let out a phatcloud beside one lol :D
 

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I can spot most distracted drivers playing with their cell phones. They are the ones that can't make a turn when the light turns green. Or they go around the corner at a snails pace. The texters are scary because their eyes are everywhere but the road and it shows in their driving skills. The funny thing is that they think they are driving great. Ask them, they will tell you how good they are. Each and every one of them. If they saw themselves driving or realized how often they are looking way it might be a different story.

I still state that nothing is more distracting then dropping a lit cigarette in my lap. :)

I keep a few ecigs with fresh cartos ready for driving. Then I don't worry about it.
 

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We are so worried about the distracted driver. How about we actually get the drivers that can't drive off the road.

But seriously for a moment. I doubt that there is even one of us that can HONESTLY say that they have not been distracted while driving. The problem is that its waaaaaay to easy to get distracted these days.
 

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We are so worried about the distracted driver. How about we actually get the drivers that can't drive off the road.

But seriously for a moment. I doubt that there is even one of us that can HONESTLY say that they have not been distracted while driving. The problem is that its waaaaaay to easy to get distracted these days.

Well it is something near and dear to my heart. I was rear ended by a distracted driver years ago and it took a long time to recover both physically and mentally. Even though, I still don't think the new laws do a single thing about it. Education is the key. Yes, I also fully agree, even to this day that everyone has moments of distraction. I still don't think intentionally do something extremely distracting such as texting though is ok.
 

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Well it is something near and dear to my heart. I was rear ended by a distracted driver years ago and it took a long time to recover both physically and mentally. Even though, I still don't think the new laws do a single thing about it. Education is the key. Yes, I also fully agree, even to this day that everyone has moments of distraction. I still don't think intentionally do something extremely distracting such as texting though is ok.

I can relate all too well. 26 days after getting my G2 I got into a head on collision. The other party was charged with driving under the influence of alcohol and an illegal substance, no insurance, suspended license and running a red.
Took me almost 1/2 a year to be able to drive again.

Two years later I got rear ended going UP a hill (I was at a dead stop) by a distracted driver (using cell phone). Then 2 weeks later (the day before I get my car back) I was forced to return my midsize rental (which they gave me to replace my full size sedan) as a sub-compact as this older man couldn't make a split second decision to avoid rear ending me (causing me to rear end an off duty OPP officer).
 

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For anyone in Alberta, the legislation mentions "Holding, viewing, or manipulating a hand-held electronic device or a wireless electronic device."
I suppose that TECHNICALLY an electronic cigarette is an electronic device, and they could ticket you. However, since there is nothing mentioned about smoking, then we can assume that smoking is ok. If we assume that smoking is ok, then it stands to reason that a smoking alternative that actually is LESS distracting (no ashing, cherry not falling off into your lap, etc - You former smokers know what I'm talking about) is also ok. If you actually did get a ticket, I suspect that you could easily argue your way out of it in court. Annoying, but I'm fairly sure that they weren't thinking about electronic cigarettes when they wrote the law.
 
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