DSE-601 E-Pipe review part 2 by asidrave

[asidrave]

Here is my followup video on the DSE 601

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnJux9DYhno

if you haven't seen the initial first impression review...here is a link

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/video-reviews/15490-dse-601-e-pipe-review-asidrave.html

enjoy

 

[DCrist721]

Hey man. I think you misunderstood me about my drilling a hole in the cart" idea that you said you were going mention in your follow up review..

Drilling the hole was so that I could
1. Keep a steady flow of juice supplied to that atomizer because my atomizer is causing carts to dry out after only an hour or two (as opposed to the several days that they should last normally). The hole I drilled is approximately the diameter of an analog, so that the dropper part of almost any bottle fits in.

2. Mimic the effect of direct dripping, without having to remove the cart. For those who don't have one, the atomizer is about one inch deep into a narrow tube, so when you go to drip with a bottle it prevents you from seeing where you're dripping because it both blocks your line of sight, as well blocking any light from shining inside, leaving the tube very dark. So because of these things, traditional dripping becomes nearly impossible. All you need to do is make sure that the cartridge is filled completely with liquid. Then you put it in your e-pipe, and drip a few drops into the hole that was drilled. Since all the foam is completely saturated, when you drip the couple of drops they push all of the e-liquid down through the foam and at the other side (the side exposed to the atomizer) and for however much you dripped in the hole, a similar amount of e-liquid will come out on the atomizer end of the cart. However, if you decided to change flavors while using this method, after you drip the new flavor in through the hole, you will have to wait until all of the old flavor is all vaporized before you can taste the new flavor, because the new flavor has to be pushed all the way through and outall the old e-liquid below it.

3. It's just so much easier and less of a hassle now without having the take the cartridge out of the e-pipe to refill the cart, top off the cart, or drip with the cart. And when you take the cart out it's always coated in e-liquid, and that can be a real pain in the ... if you don't have someplace to wash your hands.

So again, this idea was just a way for me to deal with carts that need constant topping off and I also needed a way to refiill them quickly and easily without having to touch them. Drilling a hole in it had nothing to do with preventing vacuum suction.

 

[asidrave]

DC...you explained it much better than what i could have shown anyone on video

 

[Hexum]

Stellar Raul! Keep us up to date on the new flavors you try. Whether or not the 601 can consistently provide an accurate flavor representation is critical!

 

[asidrave]

Thanks Hexum....i would like to try a good tobacco flavor with the pipe. i used to have marlboro from ruyandirect...i didnt like it. unfortunately...i gave it away before i even thought of getting the 601.

 

[bri1270]

Hey - I have a question for some of you more experiences 601 users. How long of a draw are you typically able to take? I seem to be cutting out around the three second mark...Maybe I just can't suck hard enough...lol

And here's an observation from the two atomizers I have. Wouldn't you think that the best position for the wicking bridge on the atomizer, given the way the cart fits, would be horizontal when the pipe is positioned for use? I have one that's vertical and the other is in the 10 O'clock. This does't easily allow for maximum contact of the bridge with the cart filler. I notice a huge difference in vapor production and throat hit when the cart is not positioned for maximum contact with the bridge...Anyone else??

 

[breakfastchef]

bri - the DSE601 does not have a cutoff. If it does, I have not hit it yet. Three seconds is not right, and strobe effect is definitely wrong. If the batteries are fully-charged and this is still happening, you need to seek warranty replacement. I believe forum member Howard is having a similar problem (different thread) and is going through a warranty replacement right now.

Didn't you buy a spare atomizer? Does the second atomizer do the same thing?

 

[breakfastchef]

Wouldn't you think that the best position for the wicking bridge on the atomizer, given the way the cart fits, would be horizontal when the pipe is positioned for use?I notice a huge difference in vapor production and throat hit when the cart is not positioned for maximum contact with the bridge...Anyone else??

As long as the material surrounding the bridge and atomizer wicks properly, I don't think bridge orientation matters. If the stuffing in the cart is recessed when you pull the cart out for topping off, it is contacting the atomizer bridge. I can't say I have noticed that there is an optimal position.

 

[bri1270]

Hey Chef - I do have a second atomizer - Just tried it and I get the same thing. Maybe I just need to work on my technique. I think the strobing was due to a slight flooding of the atomizer.

 

[breakfastchef]

Hey Chef - I do have a second atomizer - Just tried it and I get the same thing. Maybe I just need to work on my technique. I think the strobing was due to a slight flooding of the atomizer.

I fiddled around with different draw techniques and duplicated the strobe light thing you described. You are drawing way too lightly. I suppose no one can claim that 'you suck'.

 

[bri1270]

It's a tricky little device for sure. The draw is so light that instinctually, I draw easily which clearly doesn't cut it.

I suppose no one can claim that 'you suck'.

I'm sure my wife would argue that I can suck at times. Of course I mean this in a negative way...


I still love the 601, it's great for just sitting and puffing away with little or no attention for a long period of time. This was exactly what I was looking for. I put in some low nic and vape away. Then when I need a good hit of nic, I turn to the 901 box mod I made. I'm pretty much not charging batteries anymore. I keep a 601 battery on the charger and I have 3 sets of NiMH 'AA's I use for my box mod. Couple more 601 batteries and I'll be good to go. I'm a legitimate all day/chain vaper so the less charging and fiddling I have to do the better.

 

[asidrave]

Hey Chef - I do have a second atomizer - Just tried it and I get the same thing. Maybe I just need to work on my technique. I think the strobing was due to a slight flooding of the atomizer.

the only time i will get that strobe effect....red and green blinking....is when the battery needs charging.

i would make sure that when charging the battery...it makes good contact in the charger...if anything...bend the charger contacts out a little bit before inserting the battery in the charger and try charging the battery again

 

[breakfastchef]

Just got my shipment from ruyandirect with my spare DSE601 atomizer, some juice and other odd parts. Wow, I finally understand the vapor you guys have been talking about and those massive clouds on asidrave's videos. This new atomizer produces three times the vapor that the original atomizer could muster up. I am going to ask Wayne if he will replace the ordiginal atomizer.

As to flavors, I just cut down some 36mg/ml Flue-Cured from ruyan with glycerine and water to about 24mg/ml. Very good tobacco flavor, hint of sweetness, minimal throat hit, excellent vapor volume; a decent e-pipe juice.

 

[bri1270]

i would make sure that when charging the battery...it makes good contact in the charger...if anything...bend the charger contacts out a little bit before inserting the battery in the charger and try charging the battery again

Thanks Raul - I actually did this last night, as I thought the contact with the charger was for crap.

Here's another one - how long are you guys charging your batteries? Is the 601's LED indicator, like all the other e-cig charger and meaningless?

 

[breakfastchef]

I am charging around 3-4 hours. I never trust lights on chargers.

 

[bri1270]

But is the battery actually charging when the light turns green?

 

[asidrave]

with the battery in the charger....once the charger light turns from red to green...its charged. the battery will not "overcharge"..the battery charger has a protection circuit to prevent overcharging.

 

[asidrave]

Just got my shipment from ruyandirect with my spare DSE601 atomizer, some juice and other odd parts. Wow, I finally understand the vapor you guys have been talking about and those massive clouds on asidrave's videos. This new atomizer produces three times the vapor that the original atomizer could muster up. I am going to ask Wayne if he will replace the ordiginal atomizer.

As to flavors, I just cut down some 36mg/ml Flue-Cured from ruyan with glycerine and water to about 24mg/ml. Very good tobacco flavor, hint of sweetness, minimal throat hit, excellent vapor volume; a decent e-pipe juice.

thats great news breakfastchef..im sure Wayne will take care of it.

what is the flu-cured flavor like? do you like it as a daily vape? have you tried it in any of your other e-cigs? i want to try another tobacco flavor but just not sure which one to try..i tried the marlboro from ruyandirect...didnt like it...wish i saved it to try with the 601

 

[breakfastchef]

thats great news breakfastchef..im sure Wayne will take care of it.

what is the flu-cured flavor like? do you like it as a daily vape? have you tried it in any of your other e-cigs? i want to try another tobacco flavor but just not sure which one to try..i tried the marlboro from ruyandirect...didnt like it...wish i saved it to try with the 601

Pipes call out for tobacco flavor. As you have found, lightly flavored juices don't come through the DSE601 very well. I have tried JC Kona, TW Coffee, TW Vanilla, Squeezings from cartridges past plus menthol drops, Liquid Express Coffee, JC Tennessee Cured tobacco, Liquid Express Black Tea and JuicyLiquids French Roast. None taste as good as they do through my Kissbox. The Ruyan Flue-cured 36mg diluted down to around 24 mg is very good. I can see me using this exclusively in the e-pipe as the TAB flavor that came with the device basically sucks.

The next dilemma is what happens when the flue-cured tobacco flavor runs out. Ordering a few bottles of juice from ruyandirect is expensive so I will continue to search out a less expensive alternative.

 

[lovebird]

Thank you for information on juices, breakfastchev.
I will order Ruyan Flue-cured 36mg to dilute with glycerine and water.