DSE-801 High Power Atty

[Technonut]

I just received the DSE-801 High Power purchased from a forum member... I really am liking this so far..

My question is: From what I understand, the threading is slightly different than regular 801's. The special atties for this model ohm in around 4.7-4.8 to handle the 7.4 volt battery. (Fresh off of the charger, I read 8.30 volts. )

I would like to see some different ohm atty's for this model.. (Like the 5.2 ohm 801 you make) Perhaps, even some Fusion cartos..

What are the chances of this happening sometime soon?

Link To The DSE-801 High Power:

DSE-801 High Power

 

[Iken]

I just received the DSE-801 High Power purchased from a forum member... I really am liking this so far..

My question is: From what I understand, the threading is slightly different than regular 801's. The special atties for this model ohm in around 4.7-4.8 to handle the 7.4 volt battery. (Fresh off of the charger, I read 8.30 volts. )

I would like to see some different ohm atty's for this model.. (Like the 5.2 ohm 801 you make) Perhaps, even some Fusion cartos..

What are the chances of this happening sometime soon?

Link To The DSE-801 High Power:

DSE-801 High Power

I don't think i quite follow Techno,
We have Many different types of the 801

Full size
1.2.0Ω for 3.4-4.2V,
2.HV 3.5Ω for 5-6V,
3.XHV 5.2Ω- 7.4-8V.

Semi version
4. LR 2.5Ω for 5V,
5. HV 3.5 for 5-6V

Mini version
6.2.0Ω for 3.4-4.2

Cartomizer:
801 Fusion in 2.5Ω for 3.4-4.2V

If you mean to make a cartomizer for 7+ volts, I think it would be pointless honestly. 7+volt users are very rare as it is.

 

[Technonut]

The threads on this high power 801 are different than standard 801 threads.. The only high power 801 attys available, are the ones on the site linked.. I would like to see different ohm 801 attys with threading that fit this model.. From the site:

DSE-801 High Power
The next generation of the classic DSE801 series electronic cigarette

The HIGH POWER units operate at an astounding 7.4 volt producing clouds of warm vapor

Battery life while at this voltage is very good due to the specific battery and charger combination

The Atomizer, Battery and Charger for the DSE-801 HIGH POWER units are not compatible with any other model, including its twin the DSE-801

 

[Iken]

Oh ok, I get it now. I just got off with a fellow engineer, it's the same atty we developed roughly 9 months ago with a twist, the battery that comes supplied is 2 in 1 giving the 7-8V. They didn't want people to apply the wrong battery on the wrong atomizer so to ease confusion the threading has been changed. So there's no reason for me to carry this style as I created it LOL

 

[Switched]

The threads on this high power 801 are different than standard 801 threads.. The only high power 801 attys available, are the ones on the site linked.. I would like to see different ohm 801 attys with threading that fit this model.. From the site:

I'm going to play devil's advocate here since Isaac can't and really shouldn't as a vendor.

I all humble honesty folks that go out of their way to find vaping Nirvana from vendor X with proprietaty equipment should get said proprietary equipment from vendor X and not expect vendors A to Z to stock proprietary equipment, let alone develop it.

e.g the E9 battery which is similar to the KR808 but doesn't accept anything else but the E9 accessories. Why? It is a KR808-d2 vice the standard KR808-d1. The developers of the E9 did this to keep folks flocking to their site for replacements.

Once again in all humility folks should stick with the main stream products and purchase "proprietary" equipment at their own risk. This may seem callous but we need to protect the integrity of the "standard" wrt interchangeability of universal equipment.

IMHO you have 3 choices:

• continue purchasing your accessories at parent vendor;
• try a standard 801 and see if it will work on your batt; and
• should that fail. Take it as a lesson learned and move away from proprietary equipment and accessories.

... and yes I can say all this because I got burnt with the E9. It is all part of vaping tuition as far as I am concerned.

Without prejudice...

 

[Technonut]

I have no issue with the DSE-801 High Power.. As I said, I like it.. I noticed that Ikenvape carried various ohm attys that are well received by fellow vapers, and didn't think it would hurt to ask if he could make some available for this model.

While the DSE-801 HP may be a niche PV at the moment, it just may be popular enough to make speciality attys to cater to folks who own them. IMO, as long as the HP attys are not patented, it would be fair game to offer attys to the owners of the HP. Also IMO, it would be a sound business move, as it would result in increased sales of an item that needs to be replaced periodically, thus, creating a market for attys that the original vendor currently does not offer.

As with all the other PVs and accessories in the marketplace that are compatible with one another, purchasing decisions boil-down to availability, quality, anything unique that sets it apart from competitors, and cost....

I'm going to play devil's advocate here since Isaac can't and really shouldn't as a vendor.

I all humble honesty folks that go out of their way to find vaping Nirvana from vendor X with proprietaty equipment should get said proprietary equipment from vendor X and not expect vendors A to Z to stock proprietary equipment, let alone develop it.

e.g the E9 battery which is similar to the KR808 but doesn't accept anything else but the E9 accessories. Why? It is a KR808-d2 vice the standard KR808-d1. The developers of the E9 did this to keep folks flocking to their site for replacements.

Once again in all humility folks should stick with the main stream products and purchase "proprietary" equipment at their own risk. This may seem callous but we need to protect the integrity of the "standard" wrt interchangeability of universal equipment.

IMHO you have 3 choices:

• continue purchasing your accessories at parent vendor;
• try a standard 801 and see if it will work on your batt; and
• should that fail. Take it as a lesson learned and move away from proprietary equipment and accessories.

... and yes I can say all this because I got burnt with the E9. It is all part of vaping tuition as far as I am concerned.

Without prejudice...

 

[Switched]

Get yourself a 5.2Ohm 801 atty and give it a whirl. Wrt cartos, wow I doubt that any carto can handle XHV at this point in time, as even the stainless steel filler burns because of localised overheating.

Personally I believe money is better spent developing the long aewaited Infinity. How many DSE HV vapers are out there who share your sentiments? If I was a vendor I would look at the potential client base to make an informed decision.

 

[Technonut]

I would try one, but as I said, the threading is different on the HP to prevent using standard 801 attys on it...

Edit: If one has the proper tools, I can't see how it would be that difficult to chase or cut threads to make standard 801 attys compatible.. I do not have those type of tools, and would be willing to pay a reasonable premium to have a choice of different ohm attys for this device...

Get yourself a 5.2Ohm 801 atty and give it a whirl. Wrt cartos, wow I doubt that any carto can handle XHV at this point in time, as even the stainless steel filler burns because of localised overheating.

Personally I believe money is better spent developing the long aewaited Infinity. How many DSE HV vapers are out there who share your sentiments? If I was a vendor I would look at the potential client base to make an informed decision.

 

[Switched]

... an adapter would be nice solves the problem.

I checked your link out and didn't particularly like what I saw. There is absolutely no information what so ever on the unit: the charger (rating and charging capacity); or the battery (mAh and C rating, extremely important); with the exception of you cannot use or gear with any other market product, whilst other devices the specs are there???

 

[Technonut]

There is a thread on it from a couple of months ago here... http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...935-dse-801-high-power-vaporizer-litecig.html

The charger is a DESAN model DSE801H-C Input: 100-240V-50/60Hz... IN DC: 12-24V.. Output: 8.2V- 0 1A

The batteries are 280 Mah... From my use, they last a reasonable amount of time (a few hours) given the 4.7-4.8 ohm attys used...

EDIT: There is the original thread about the device here:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/litecig/121525-new-high-power-kits.html

I get a few hours out of mine since I do not use this exclusively.. It seems with normal vaping, just using this device, 1 1/2 hours. The batteries do charge quickly, and cost no more than standard 801's.. I have 4 now, and will probably pick up another 4. I don't mind changing batteries at all for a device this small and compact that throws out so much power..

I apologize for this growing into a full-blown discussion on this device.. I only was asking if Ikenvape could make some different ohm attys for it since their attys are well regarded on the forum. I think it should make a difference on battery life, and the overall vaping experience with this device..

 

[Iken]

While it would go against the manufacture in making these new atomizer's expand as the said statement of why they made the threads differ in the first place. I have to agree with Switcher "If I was a vendor I would look at the potential client base to make an informed decision." that, I already invested so much into the the original 801 as did other members and local manufactures with their units, to change the whole game would be a little far out and can be awfully risky. Not to mention, the internals of the High Powered is from my XHV Those are key points that gives enough reason not to jump in this. This has been done in another scenario as well, > see 901KLR Huge disappointment.
The reason why your run time is so low, your battery is actually 2x 120mah 3.7V composed together creating 7.4V.

Size L112*9.2 mm
Weight for single cigarette 15g
Nicotine content for each cartridge 0.8ml
Each Cartridge can be sucked in 150 puffs
Nicotine content of each cartridge equals to traditional cigarettes 10 pcs
Full battery can keep for 150 Puffs
Content of battery 240 mHa
Input voltage 8.2V
Normal working voltage 6.5V-8.2V
battery cycle life 300 times
Charge Time 2.5-3 h

An adapter would do the job but for now, I'd rather let these ride to see how they pan out.
Thank you very much for the request and please don't get the wrong idea that it is not welcome. These are just examples and explanations on why I shouldn't make it happen....just yet.

 

[Technonut]

I see where you are coming from, and appreciate the replies.. As I said, I purchased it from another forum member, not the vendor that stocks them.

I would imagine that the threading on the HP is different to prevent the use of standard 801 attys, and having them blow left and right...

An adapter would do the job but for now, I'd rather let these ride to see how they pan out.
Thank you very much for the request and please don't get the wrong idea that it is not welcome. These are just examples and explanations on why I shouldn't make it happen....just yet.

 

[Iken]

Haha from his words on skype to your post
"We are worried DSE801H battery will burn out the normal 801's atomiser"

Personally I Love expanding with new and revered ideas. Before, I was thinking on bringing back the DSE-103, , the 306's rival, but the threads are so different it may end up being just another 401. Going all out on the 801 itself was a scary move as is. Can you imagine a new comer reading this thread!?

 

[Technonut]

Iken... If you ever do get the itch to make an adapter for this model, or complete attys of various compatible ohms, please keep me in mind to be your BETA tester, or to straight-out purchase them... My digital mm, and HP device are at your service... Thanks again for the replies. This has been an interesting discussion for me..

 

[Iken]

You got it Techno!
It is a good discussion. I'm sorry how it ended, I hope you understand why we can't really proceed with the new fitting unless the manufacture switched over, but they did make it this way to cause less confusion. Honestly, I think it's just going to be a short lived fad even though the XHV is really nice on 8V. Who knows maybe in the future they'll start working on 9V batteries to have a higher amperage rating than what they have now and we can use those.
What's an HP device?