Dual Coil Atty and Safe Vaping Power

[BillyTheWild]

Just get my SmokTech UDCT in. I have a 1.5Ω, double-punched, SmokTech atty to go with it. I do not see the warm and huge volume of vapor that everyone is talking about with this tank. Actually, my Evod seems to produce more vapor at the same voltage. Thinking maybe I am vaping on too low a voltage. Am using a eGo-C Twist 1000 mAH. Looking at the Safe vaping Power chart that is floating around here and other sites, I am keeping it at 3.5v. My question is this: since this is two 3Ω coils in parallel to make a 1.5Ω, do I still use the 1.5Ω figure or the 3Ω figure in the chart to find the safe voltage?

 

[Baditude]

I believe the Power Chart was designed with single coil atty's in mind.

Not personally a fan of dual coils, but I've heard that they need at least 4.5 volts to shine. So maybe you need to look at your dual cartos as a 3.0 ohm device. I can tell you to expect your batteries to last noticeably less on a charge with dual coils. You'll probably get a better vaping experience with a single coil, but that's just my opinion.

Then I could be totally wrong. Perhaps someone more experienced with dual coils can jump in.

http://www.ecigadvanced.com/community/guide-to-safe-vaping-and-finding-your-apvs-sweetspot/

 

[wv2win]

The problem is not the dual coil atty, it is your weak Twist. The Twist cannot handle a dual coil atty due to it's weak 2.5 amp switch. It's one of the reasons I don't recommend eGo PV's because they cut corners by using weak switches and way over priced batteries.

If you had a PV with a 3.5+ amp switch, you would see the results with the dual coil atty you were hoping for. And most use 1.5 ohm dual coils in the 4.3 - 5.0 volt range or the 11.5 - 12 watt range.

 

[BillyTheWild]

Thanks for the info.
I crank it to 4.5, 4.6v, still not seeing much difference.
I also bought some single coil 2Ω atty. Will give that a try next.

 

[wv2win]

Thanks for the info.
I crank it to 4.5, 4.6v, still not seeing much difference.
I also bought some single coil 2Ω atty. Will give that a try next.

Dual coils really do "shine", when used on a good PV with a switch regulator that has the power to handle them.

 

[BillyTheWild]

The problem is not the dual coil atty, it is your weak Twist. The Twist cannot handle a dual coil atty due to it's weak 2.5 amp switch. It's one of the reasons I don't recommend eGo PV's because they cut corners by using weak switches and way over priced batteries.

If you had a PV with a 3.5+ amp switch, you would see the results with the dual coil atty you were hoping for. And most use 1.5 ohm dual coils in the 4.3 - 5.0 volt range or the 11.5 - 12 watt range.

Let's see if I understand this correctly. Are you saying that the max. current output on a eGO-C Twist is 2.5A which means 3.7v at 1.5Ω with a output power of 9.13W. Since it has reached its max. current output at this point, so even if I crank up the voltage setting on the Twist beyond 3.7v, I am still only getting 3.7v (thus, only 9.13W of power) output to the atty. Is it correct?

 

[wv2win]

Let's see if I understand this correctly. Are you saying that the max. current output on a eGO-C Twist is 2.5A which means 3.7v at 1.5Ω with a output power of 9.13W. Since it has reached its max. current output at this point, so even if I crank up the voltage setting on the Twist beyond 3.7v, I am still only getting 3.7v (thus, only 9.13W of power) output to the atty. Is it correct?

I will trust your figures, but generally, you are correct. Using dual coils, at least those below 2.0 ohms are just a waste on any ego type PV. The dual coils from my experience and as reported by many vets on this and other vaping sites, do provide a warmer, fuller vape due to the increased surface of the coils.

My two main PV's have a 4 amp and a 5 amp switch, respectively, so they really allow the dual coils to shine when you hit the right watt level (11 - 12.5 watts). Not that you cannot have a good vape with single coils but I have used them all (non-RBA's) and see the difference with 1.5 ohm DCC's.

 

[BillyTheWild]

My two main PV's have a 4 amp and a 5 amp switch, respectively, so they really allow the dual coils to shine when you hit the right watt level (11 - 12.5 watts).

You don't get burnt taste at this high wattage? How about the risk of blowing out the coil? The Safe Vaping Chart indicates that these are the risks of running at this high power. But it seems like you are saying that it's still safe, or, are these just the risks you are willing to take?

 

[wv2win]

You don't get burnt taste at this high wattage? How about the risk of blowing out the coil? The Safe Vaping Chart indicates that these are the risks of running at this high power. But it seems like you are saying that it's still safe, or, are these just the risks you are willing to take?

This is why those "charts" are of minimal use, IMO. How did those of us who have been vaping for a few years ever get this far, lol??

The charts I have seen do not factor in the difference in how dual coil cartos/atty's work. In essence, a 1.5 ohm dual coil carto is more similar, in how it handles power, to a single coil 3.0 ohm carto. Many of us vets use dual coils at this power level (which is needed for them to really shine) without a hitch. I vape all day on 1.5 ohm DCC's at 11 - 12 watts. Some prefer closer to 15 watts. I have never busted a coil or burned my eliquid. I replace them about every 8 - 12 days just because they are less satisfing (like any carto), not because they are still not working.

They provide more warmth and fuller vapor, from my understanding, due to the increased surface area that two coils provide.

People who use Twists and similar weak switch PV's like all the egos, think that DCC's don't work well, when in reality it is the eGo/Twist, etc that is the problem, not the dual coil carto. Step up to a better PV (Vamo, Provari, Darwin, Zmax, etc) and you will see the difference in how well DCC's work.