I have been using the LR dual coils for about 3 weeks with my Buzz and I LOVE them
I have 3 friends using them with their Buzz and also love them. No issues at all
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I have been using the LR dual coils for about 3 weeks with my Buzz and I LOVE them
I have 3 friends using them with their Buzz and also love them. No issues at all
6 Volts @ 1.5 ohms and 4 AMPS !!! = 24 WATTS that is a ridiculous amount of power , your juice will not hold up to that kind of power IMO so it is an unusable area really now 4 volts @1.5 ohms = 10 watts and 2,6 amps , looking for much more than that power wise does not make a device un usable.
Lr is just a bad idea for several reasons.
1. Higher current draw from the battery , this does 3 things
A. drains the battery faster
B. wears the battery out faster ( lower life expectancy )
C. draws more current from the battery than it is specified for ( except AW high drain types )
2. VV devices use regulators they like VOLTAGE they do not like Current as much so they tend to be lower current devices ( not in all cases mind you ) so if you raise the voltage and resistance you decrease the current with the same POWER >
and temperature .
From all of our tests 7-9 watts seems to be the Sweet Spot for 95% of vapers
Bovinia had the currents correct in her post BTW.
Lr is just a bad idea for several reasons.
1. Higher current draw from the battery , this does 3 things
A. drains the battery faster
B. wears the battery out faster ( lower life expectancy )
C. draws more current from the battery than it is specified for ( except AW high drain types )
2. VV devices use regulators they like VOLTAGE they do not like Current as much so they tend to be lower current devices ( not in all cases mind you ) so if you raise the voltage and resistance you decrease the current with the same POWER >
and temperature .
From all of our tests 7-9 watts seems to be the Sweet Spot for 95% of vapers
Bovinia had the currents correct in her post BTW.
6 Volts @ 1.5 ohms and 4 AMPS !!! = 24 WATTS that is a ridiculous amount of power , your juice will not hold up to that kind of power IMO so it is an unusable area really now 4 volts @1.5 ohms = 10 watts and 2,6 amps , looking for much more than that power wise does not make a device un usable.
Lr is just a bad idea for several reasons.
1. Higher current draw from the battery , this does 3 things
A. drains the battery faster
B. wears the battery out faster ( lower life expectancy )
C. draws more current from the battery than it is specified for ( except AW high drain types )
2. VV devices use regulators they like VOLTAGE they do not like Current as much so they tend to be lower current devices ( not in all cases mind you ) so if you raise the voltage and resistance you decrease the current with the same POWER >
and temperature .
From all of our tests 7-9 watts seems to be the Sweet Spot for 95% of vapers
Bovinia had the currents correct in her post BTW.
True on all counts but one. It's not 24 watts on 'each coil'. Divide that in half...as the coils are higher resistance ones in parallel. In reality, you might do very well to get 8 to 12 watts from each coil at best with most of the mods out currently out there. It's more like running two 40 watt bulbs instead of one 80 watt bulb. It's not as efficent...not as 'hot', but does a similar job in a different way.
All the rest is probably true about pulling so many amps like that. Time will tell how these things impact battery longevity and other parts for folks.
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Regardless if they are in series or parallel the power is the same you just have 12 watts on each coil , so they split the power.
True...that much drain on the batteries...that many amps on the switch....
The reason the juice survives it is because it's divided over two coils.
I'm liking these 'occasionally' as it just gives me something a little different. I'm not sure it's worth it yet as my main goto carto...it'll get expensive to run these in terms of the amount of juice they're sucking down. Effectively, it's like running two PVs at once in terms of juice consumption. Wow...
I respect everyone’s opinion and preferences here but these two factors aside, I asked my original thread questions to definitively determine what VV mods will fire the duals coils period. And, just as important to me, to what loaded voltage (using a voltage meter to verify results)?
Given this data, we could then allow personal preferences to dictate what loaded voltage someone is most comfortable with, how often they want to swap their batts...
I will edit my original post from the feedback given so far when I get a chance to go through the replies.
That said, since Buzz posted last…Buzz, are you saying that your Buzz mod will fire a +/-1.5ohm DC up to 5v under load?
If any of the above is coming off as snide, I mean no offense to anyone.
I do know the following:
- I now know what voltage is my sweet spot with the new DC's.
- I know I want a VV mod to hold that voltage through the life of the batts.
- I don't want to spend another $100 or more dollars finding out if the next VV I buy will fire the DC's up to and maybe a bit beyond my sweet spot
- I want to save others the $$$ and headache I am going through now with a VV mod that won’t fire these new DC’s correctly.
I am not faulting any vendor/manufacturer or pointing blame…these DC are brand new to the market and no one could have predicted how current mods would fire them. I also believe that there are mods that will fire these up to and beyond my sweet spot and I want to determine which VV I am going to buy next.
DC’s up to this point, have been the best vape I have experienced (I've tried them all) so I am sticking with them. What I and others buy to fire them is what I’m trying to determine.
Thanks all.
Given this data, we could then allow personal preferences to dictate what loaded voltage someone is most comfortable with, how often they want to swap their batts...
I will edit my original post from the feedback given so far when I get a chance to go through the replies.
That said, since Buzz posted last…Buzz, are you saying that your Buzz mod will fire a +/-1.5ohm DC up to 5v under load?
If any of the above is coming off as snide, I mean no offense to anyone.
I do know the following:
- I now know what voltage is my sweet spot with the new DC's.
- I know I want a VV mod to hold that voltage through the life of the batts.
- I don't want to spend another $100 or more dollars finding out if the next VV I buy will fire the DC's up to and maybe a bit beyond my sweet spot
- I want to save others the $$$ and headache I am going through now with a VV mod that won’t fire these new DC’s correctly.
I am not faulting any vendor/manufacturer or pointing blame…these DC are brand new to the market and no one could have predicted how current mods would fire them. I also believe that there are mods that will fire these up to and beyond my sweet spot and I want to determine which VV I am going to buy next.
DC’s up to this point, have been the best vape I have experienced (I've tried them all) so I am sticking with them. What I and others buy to fire them is what I’m trying to determine.
Thanks all.
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Come over to our forum and ask there please , it may not be ok to directly answer that in this thread,.
Now that there making different ohm DC's Rock in these DC's there is no need to even purchase 1.5ohm the way I see this unless you are running them on a non regulated 3.4-3.7 PV (right) ??
I don't see it that way at all. I think the only thing the 2.0 and the 2.5 ohm DCs are good for is people with amp limited devices. What makes these things so good is the fact they generate so many watts so quickly without burning or blowing a coil so the user can take short drags and get plenty of vapor. Higher ohms works against that. People with unregulated 3.7 might be interested in the 1.25 ohm version and people with amp limiting regulators will never experience what these things are capable of. Increasing the ohms means decreasing the performance. All it serves is allowing those with amp limited devices to use them - it does not allow them to experience the true capability.
What you are looking for is the POWER regardless if it is from 12 volts and .8 amps or 3.87 volts and 2.6 amps it is 10 watts , you will produce the same power across the coil in either case this = heat or vapor producing capability.
Yes. that's what I'm saying. Those with amp limited devices will have an easier time firing the higher ohm DCs but they'll never reach the watts of vaping power that make these things shine without hitting their amp limitation threshold. I have all sorts of attys and cartos that are close in performance and as good or better in flavor at 3.7v. But at 5.4 volts - Heh... nothing compares, nothing can even try to compare. Nothing I've ever tried (and that's a considerable amount of stuff) is even approaching the parking lot of the same ball park, and most of it hasn't even made it to the same town the ballpark is in.
For the standard 1.6 ohm (advertized as 1.5 but the 20 or so I've tested have all been around 1.6 before filling): So far, it looks like the Darwin, The Copper, and The Buzz are the only VVs that are going to get at least to 5.0v. Oh, and it sounds like the terminator will even go to 6.0, but good luck finding one of those with a 510 thread unless somehow someone puts one up for sale in the classifieds. -- I'm really glad to have this information going forward. I was very close to buying a provari and it is no longer on my list (I'll mark that as a substantial amount of cash saved). -- The buzz and the darwin have made it to my list of "going to buy" items partly because of the DCs and partly because of other factors. But, for the time being, I'm fairly happy with my 5.0v batts in my rough stack. I just wish I had a couple more of those batts so I could vape that way all day every day.
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I hear ya . I now feel fortunate I picked up the Terminator when I did. I know Mike at notcigs said these things wouldn't crank as high as I stated but I can provide a live demonstration of putting this thing to a loaded voltage of 6v and I can keep going...how high...don't know. My favorite range for the DC 1.5's is about 4.2 to 4.5v so the buzz would work for me.
I found out the hard way that a VV I bought wouldn't work. I'm glad you could be saved the trouble and $$$$.
You said it though about nothing else available even being in the ball park with these new DC's. I was an exclusive botton and top fed 306LR user. After my first couple of drags on one of these DC 1.5's, I literally unscrewed (4)...yes (4) 306LR's and replaced each one of them with a DC. Nothing compares when you can nail these things with my Terminator set at about 4.5v. This is the entire reason I want a new VV that will work properly...the SWEET SPOT...through the entire charge...AHHHHH!!!
I hear ya . I now feel fortunate I picked up the Terminator when I did. I know Mike at notcigs said these things wouldn't crank as high as I stated but I can provide a live demonstration of putting this thing to a loaded voltage of 6v and I can keep going...how high...don't know. My favorite range for the DC 1.5's is about 4.2 to 4.5v so the buzz would work for me.
I found out the hard way that a VV I bought wouldn't work. I'm glad you could be saved the trouble and $$$$.
You said it though about nothing else available even being in the ball park with these new DC's. I was an exclusive botton and top fed 306LR user. After my first couple of drags on one of these DC 1.5's, I literally unscrewed (4)...yes (4) 306LR's and replaced each one of them with a DC. Nothing compares when you can nail these things with my Terminator set at about 4.5v. This is the entire reason I want a new VV that will work properly...the SWEET SPOT...through the entire charge...AHHHHH!!!
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