dumb ohm's questions...

[Marvin & Sennie]

Had my REO Grand and Reomizer about 2 weeks now and learning as fast as I can so please bare with me on this...

The higher the ohms the cooler the vape or is it the other way around? Which produces better flavor? More wraps = higher ohms correct? At least that is what I am experiencing. Also how do you get your wraps to touch? Mine don't but they work fine even so. How does one know if they have a short besides the spring collapsing? I have the meter and I meter each time I rebuild and when I change the cotton/wick but honestly I have no idea what I am looking at... As in what is good and what is bad from the meter reading? lol Reminds me of when I was a kid and I babysat this nice Jewish Rabbi's son. He had to read in Hebrew every day for a certain amount of time. Once I asked him what he was reading, his response was he had no idea except that he was required to read it. lol

 

[Cool_Breeze]

The higher the ohms the cooler the vape or is it the other way around?
Higher Ohms should be a cooler vape at the same Voltage.

Which produces better flavor?
That may be a matter of debate. Too hot a vape may not be so good.

More wraps = higher ohms correct?
Yes.

Also how do you get your wraps to touch? Mine don't but they work fine even so.
That's fine.

How does one know if they have a short besides the spring collapsing?
A short should indicate zero Ohms on your meter.

I have the meter and I meter each time I rebuild and when I change the cotton/wick but honestly I have no idea what I am looking at... As in what is good and what is bad from the meter reading?
I don't know what type of meter you may have. For measuring Ohms, it should be on the Ohms setting. Ω is the symbol for Ohms. A typical reading might be in the range of 2 to 4 Ohms...depending on your goal. 2.4 Ohms to 2.8 Ohms is a pretty good average.

...hope this helps!

 

[nerak]

Had my REO Grand and Reomizer about 2 weeks now and learning as fast as I can so please bare with me on this...

The higher the ohms the cooler the vape or is it the other way around? Which produces better flavor? More wraps = higher ohms correct? At least that is what I am experiencing. Also how do you get your wraps to touch? Mine don't but they work fine even so. How does one know if they have a short besides the spring collapsing? I have the meter and I meter each time I rebuild and when I change the cotton/wick but honestly I have no idea what I am looking at... As in what is good and what is bad from the meter reading? lol Reminds me of when I was a kid and I babysat this nice Jewish Rabbi's son. He had to read in Hebrew every day for a certain amount of time. Once I asked him what he was reading, his response was he had no idea except that he was required to read it. lol

Your meter will show the ohms of the coil you have built. Usually atty's or cartos used on the REO Grand would meter at 1.5- 2.0. On the VV Grand you can go higher ohms like a 2.5 - 3.0 and dial in your favorite setting.

Building coils you can drop down to even less than 1.0 on the Grand. Some even go lower. On the VV Grand if you get down below 1.4 it might not fire. There is a cut off if the ohms are too low.

On the VV Grand it will cut off in case of a short. A Grand will respond to a short by having the spring collapse. That is about the only way to know if there is a short.

On the atty and cartos ohm meter you will get a reading of 1 if there is a short or the atty or cartos is dead.
If you have built a coil and get a 1 reading make sure the RBA is connecting to the meter. Some of the RBA's might need the center post lowered to connect.

 

[Marvin & Sennie]

Thank you, you've been a GREAT help, I was clueless!!

I have the regular Grand with the rebuildable Reomizer... when I test on the coils I am building I am getting a reading of between 1.6 and 2 ohms. I am not real sure what I should be getting. I am glad a zero means a short, I wasn't sure if it would say something like short or what... lol My meter is just a $20 job from Home Depot to get me by.

 

[Cool_Breeze]

Oh gosh...pardon me. I lost track that the question was in the context of Reos. I had thought it was 'general.'

nerak is no doubt right on with her information.

Edit: I was composing while you posted. In the case of a general Ohm meter, zero would be a short.

 

[Marvin & Sennie]

No, your response about the multi meter was just what I needed, I had no idea!! lol

Oh gosh...pardon me. I lost track that the question was in the context of Reos. I had thought it was 'general.'

nerak is no doubt right on with her information.

 

[debzcf]

Thank you, you've been a GREAT help, I was clueless!!

I have the regular Grand with the rebuildable Reomizer... when I test on the coils I am building I am getting a reading of between 1.6 and 2 ohms. I am not real sure what I should be getting. I am glad a zero means a short, I wasn't sure if it would say something like short or what... lol My meter is just a $20 job from Home Depot to get me by.

No such thing as a "regular Grand." Grands are grand!

 

[candimccann]

Also, beware of coils that bounce around in readings when you're metering them. If it goes from 1.3 to 2.1 to 1.7 then there is something wrong, probably a short or something is loose.

 

[CATastrophe]

Sennie, I'm a keep it simple kinda person. To keep coils close/touching this is what I do:

I wrap very close and tight (today I used Super_X's ideal - on a 16g needle with 30g wire for my two minis) My wrap may only have a small gap or two when done.

Then I mount and meter. If it's where I want it, I hit the power button. As soon as I let off the power, while the coils are just cooling down from red, I use a tweezers -one leg of tweezers on each end of coil- to tighten/compress the row of coils. It works perfectly for me every time. A small jewelers pliers could also be used.

Super_X torches his wire before wrapping, I believe.

I use what works for me. Try both methods and see what you're comfortable with.

Also: I have done 32g this same way for months. Easy-peasy. Not a fan of 28g.

 

[Marvin & Sennie]

Candi... so far I haven't had that happen so thank you for giving me the heads up!!

 

[Marvin & Sennie]

Mine sure is a GRAND Grand!! I love him!! He's a BA!! lol

No such thing as a "regular Grand." Grands are grand!

 

[Marvin & Sennie]

Cat I ordered that needle but STILL waiting for it to arrive... hmm... I torch it 3 times before I wrap, sometimes I torch it again after it's wrapped and I pull it as tight as I can get it. Mount, meter, stick in cotton, meter again, soak with fresh juice, then vape on. They are super close but I can't seem to get them to touch without bending the darn things over..... ugh!!

Sennie, I'm a keep it simple kinda person. To keep coils close/touching this is what I do:

I wrap very close and tight (today I used Super_X's ideal - on a 16g needle with 30g wire for my two minis) My wrap may only have a small gap or two when done.

Then I mount and meter. If it's where I want it, I hit the power button. As soon as I let off the power, while the coils are just cooling down from red, I use a tweezers -one leg of tweezers on each end of coil- to tighten/compress the row of coils. It works perfectly for me every time. A small jewelers pliers could also be used.

Super_X torches his wire before wrapping, I believe.

I use what works for me. Try both methods and see what you're comfortable with.

Also: I have done 32g this same way for months. Easy-peasy. Not a fan of 28g.

 

[CATastrophe]

Just a quick pic of today's already well vaped wrap. I've got at least 2 ml of juice through this already. I'm sportin' hornets on my minis. This is 10 wraps of 30g on a 16g needle. Super vape!

 

[debzcf]

Just a quick pic of today's already well vaped wrap. I've got at least 2 ml of juice through this already. I'm sportin' hornets on my minis. This is 10 wraps of 30g on a 16g needle. Super vape!

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Fabulous set-up! I like the yellow, too!

 

[Marvin & Sennie]

what they said ^

 

[CATastrophe]

Cat I ordered that needle but STILL waiting for it to arrive... hmm... I torch it 3 times before I wrap, sometimes I torch it again after it's wrapped and I pull it as tight as I can get it. Mount, meter, stick in cotton, meter again, soak with fresh juice, then vape on. They are super close but I can't seem to get them to touch without bending the darn things over..... ugh!!

Try wrapping on a paperclip leg. It's pretty close in size. It's supremely helpful to have something to .... the wrapping coils against when you wrap to act as a "stopper". I put a bunch of scotch tape on my paperclip. With a needle nose bottle, it bumps against the lid of the bottle.

My Wrapping technique - I'm right-handed:
I use a generous amount of wire. It's cheap. Cut about 4 inches.
Hold paperclip (I used the lid from a needle bottle) in left hand.
Give yourself about 1 inch leg to hold against whatever you're wrapping on.
Start first wrap right at the "bumper.
As you wrap, keep the force of your right hand moving down to guide the next wrap almost on top of the previous.
I let the wire turn in my finger and thumb as I guide it because I am working on the tension and getting it close. (Not sure if that makes sense.)

When you're done, you may only have one or two slight gaps that will easily come together with the tweezers after heating.

I know it took me a few times to get "my system" down. Just practice and have fun vaping what you wrapped.

It may also help to keep notes on wire gage/#of wraps/what you wrapped on/ so you can duplicate or nix as required.

 

[CATastrophe]

About ohms. My above wrap meters about 2.0 if I recall correctly. I like about 1.7-2.0 for my hornets and the juices I use with them.

My reomizer2 sits on a VVGrand, so that's a whole different animal and I wrap a bit larger diameter coil, and have it meter between 2.4-3.0 so I can play with the VV settings more to dial in flavor. My preferred vape wattage is around 7-9.

As for flavor, that depends on you and what you like. I'm with the "average" folks who like to vape about 8 watts. Have you used cartos or regular atties? What ohm did you like with those? If you know, that's your starting place for wrapping coils.

I prefer darker juices in the 2.0 ohm area and my minty-menthol-fruit vapes just a hair less.

 

[Navy4life]

Had my REO Grand and Reomizer about 2 weeks now and learning as fast as I can so please bare with me on this...

The higher the ohms the cooler the vape or is it the other way around? Which produces better flavor? More wraps = higher ohms correct? At least that is what I am experiencing. Also how do you get your wraps to touch? Mine don't but they work fine even so. How does one know if they have a short besides the spring collapsing? I have the meter and I meter each time I rebuild and when I change the cotton/wick but honestly I have no idea what I am looking at... As in what is good and what is bad from the meter reading? lol Reminds me of when I was a kid and I babysat this nice Jewish Rabbi's son. He had to read in Hebrew every day for a certain amount of time. Once I asked him what he was reading, his response was he had no idea except that he was required to read it. lol

Hi Sennie, when I used to do a little teaching, one thing I always told my students "Ask a question, because you don't know who else might want to ask that same question"! I've learned so much on here because of the questions that you ask!

 

[VAP0R_LUSH_KC]

Also, beware of coils that bounce around in readings when you're metering them. If it goes from 1.3 to 2.1 to 1.7 then there is something wrong, probably a short or something is loose.

That will also happen if theres juice on it so it doesn't necessarily mean there's a short or something loose

 

[Marvin & Sennie]

ohhhhhh.. lol I am learning all kinds of things!!