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That hole looks like it is larger than 1/16th maybe 5/64th? That would be the next common drill bit size up...
I would try to put one coil in front of each airhole maybe a mm or two just off the ceramic deck. I forgot to mention this is all speculation for the RM2 since I do not own one. Moving the coils further from the posts and closer to the airholes will also help to increase the resistance of your build, not much but it will raise it, just be observant of hot legs, they dont happen often with a good micro coil but they can happen.

This thing is really hitting like a champ not much off from my nemesis , so the lower the resistance on the coils the warmer the vape gets correct? does taste change as well ?

The lower resistance will increase the vape temp in a small chamber RDA. It can affect taste both for the better or the worse depending on chamber size, wicking and airhole size, coil placement in relation to airhole and ID of the coil.

For example I have been playing with builds in my Atomic RDA and using 24ga. Typical go to build is 0.20-0.30Ω using a 1/16th ID and 7/8 wraps (SOLID VAPE using the 2mm airholes plenty of V/F/TH!!!) but if I increase the ID to 3/32 or 5/64th I would need to lower the # of wraps to achieve a similar resistance but when doing so I tend to get less flavor similar vapor production and an increase in TH compared to my typical build.

Its fun to play with coils as long as you are actually happy with the results. If you are unhappy with any of them your frustration will ultimately be your undoing and lets face it stress free vaping is why we all have REOs
 

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That hole looks like it is larger than 1/16th maybe 5/64th? That would be the next common drill bit size up...
I would try to put one coil in front of each airhole maybe a mm or two just off the ceramic deck. I forgot to mention this is all speculation for the RM2 since I do not own one. Moving the coils further from the posts and closer to the airholes will also help to increase the resistance of your build, not much but it will raise it, just be observant of hot legs, they dont happen often with a good micro coil but they can happen.



The lower resistance will increase the vape temp in a small chamber RDA. It can affect taste both for the better or the worse depending on chamber size, wicking and airhole size, coil placement in relation to airhole and ID of the coil.

For example I have been playing with builds in my Atomic RDA and using 24ga. Typical go to build is 0.20-0.30Ω using a 1/16th ID and 7/8 wraps (SOLID VAPE using the 2mm airholes plenty of V/F/TH!!!) but if I increase the ID to 3/32 or 5/64th I would need to lower the # of wraps to achieve a similar resistance but when doing so I tend to get less flavor similar vapor production and an increase in TH compared to my typical build.

Its fun to play with coils as long as you are actually happy with the results. If you are unhappy with any of them your frustration will ultimately be your undoing and lets face it stress free vaping is why we all have REOs

thanks for the info I will try buying some 29g or 30g ken wire and play around with the coils , I cant say im not happy at .4 but I do want to try higher resistance and see how I like the taste of the same juice from .4 to a high ohm reading.

oh and you not lying these short wicks and .4 dual coils is swallowing my juice or maybe im just vaping more lol im enjoying this reo :vapor:
 

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I use both the vtc4's and the AW 1600mah in mine. Happy with both. I'm having an issue with some orbtronics 30 amps which I've heard, true or false, are just vtc4's with a button soldered on top and a new jacket put on. They just don't work well in my SL/LP which I bought when the new sub-ohm parts became standard. Haven't really researched why I have problems, I have plenty of other batteries so I just don't use them.

thanks have you tried those purple batterys? I forgot who makes them but a local vape shop carrys them 18650 at 2600mah or something like that 2500mah. any info how those work on the reos?
 

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thanks have you tried those purple batterys? I forgot who makes them but a local vape shop carrys them 18650 at 2600mah or something like that 2500mah. any info how those work on the reos?

No I haven't. I know the AW 1600mah are the recommend batteries for the Reo and I usually stick with that. I figure Rob knows what works best and they've been working find for me. But what you want to look for is high amp, high drain batteries. Higher mah doesn't mean you'll get either of those. You could but you'd need to research them to find out...
 

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No I haven't. I know the AW 1600mah are the recommend batteries for the Reo and I usually stick with that. I figure Rob knows what works best and they've been working find for me. But what you want to look for is high amp, high drain batteries. Higher mah doesn't mean you'll get either of those. You could but you'd need to research them to find out...

The REO Grand was designed around that battery and it is an excellent Li-ion IMR battery. With the release of the upgraded contacts you are now able you utilize flat top batteries more easily, I used MNKEs and VTC4s in my REO before the new contacts with only the issue of more button travel.

The purple batteries are most likely the EFest "30A" or "35A." I use Sony and AW IMRs and purchase from authentic sources. I am glad you guys brought the batteries up, I am so used to people using quality batteries I just assumed you were vaping within your batteries limits.
 

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The REO Grand was designed around that battery and it is an excellent Li-ion IMR battery. With the release of the upgraded contacts you are now able you utilize flat top batteries more easily, I used MNKEs and VTC4s in my REO before the new contacts with only the issue of more button travel.

The purple batteries are most likely the EFest "30A" or "35A." I use Sony and AW IMRs and purchase from authentic sources. I am glad you guys brought the batteries up, I am so used to people using quality batteries I just assumed you were vaping within your batteries limits.

so the more i use this reo im realizing my battery tends to pop out a little i guessing from moving the reo around when vaping im using the green sony flat top vtc4. It doesnt pop out completly but it moves enough to cause a voltage drop the vape gets weak i push the battery slighty back in and its fine. will buy an aw and hopefully that fixes that
 

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so the more i use this reo im realizing my battery tends to pop out a little i guessing from moving the reo around when vaping im using the green sony flat top vtc4. It doesnt pop out completly but it moves enough to cause a voltage drop the vape gets weak i push the battery slighty back in and its fine. will buy an aw and hopefully that fixes that

I've not had that problem with the sonys. But that is the problem I've been having with the orbtronics. Or at least the fix is the same. You can also put a bit of tape around your battery so the door keeps it pressed in. That's another option.

Edit: going with the recommended battery is a good option as well and if you have the cash for it is probably the best way to go. For what it's worth the AW 18650 1600mah is rated at 24 amps, the 2000's are rated at 10. Just an example of how higher mah isn't always better. The lowest "safe" resistance on the 2000mah is .5ohms. I don't think I'd go that low because you right on the border of unsafe. For the 1600mah the lowest "safe" coil is .2ohms. But again, I always like to leave a wide margin of error. Things may change as the battery ages, I don't know. But if you're going to be sub-ohming it pays to research this stuff. My dual coil now is 1.0ohms but I want my next build to come out at 1.4ohms. For me that's where the flavor of the juice I have tastes the best. (The Virus by nicoticket....)

So basically I'll need to do the same things you'll be trying to get my ohms up. I think I'll wrap a longer coil, there is room in the atty to do so and that way more cotton is surrounded by hot wire. Should turn out ok.

This stuff sure is a lot of fun isn't it? :)
 
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Try mountain oak vapors. They may have one left in stock. You have to hit the buy button and then they'll tell you if they're out of stock. Also, someone mention indy vapors. Might try them as well. Could be everyone sold out of the gen 1 Cyclones and aren't ordering any more until gen 2 comes out which should be soon.

Was not aware of a gen2 Cyclone coming out!! I know they are doing another run on the original due to the high demand for them. There still is no word as to the AFC cap though. I've been trying to get an answer through their FB page, but no answer yet.
 

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I've not had that problem with the sonys. But that is the problem I've been having with the orbtronics. Or at least the fix is the same. You can also put a bit of tape around your battery so the door keeps it pressed in. That's another option.

Edit: going with the recommended battery is a good option as well and if you have the cash for it is probably the best way to go. For what it's worth the AW 18650 1600mah is rated at 24 amps, the 2000's are rated at 10. Just an example of how higher mah isn't always better. The lowest "safe" resistance on the 2000mah is .5ohms. I don't think I'd go that low because you right on the border of unsafe. For the 1600mah the lowest "safe" coil is .2ohms. But again, I always like to leave a wide margin of error. Things may change as the battery ages, I don't know. But if you're going to be sub-ohming it pays to research this stuff. My dual coil now is 1.0ohms but I want my next build to come out at 1.4ohms. For me that's where the flavor of the juice I have tastes the best. (The Virus by nicoticket....)

So basically I'll need to do the same things you'll be trying to get my ohms up. I think I'll wrap a longer coil, there is room in the atty to do so and that way more cotton is surrounded by hot wire. Should turn out ok.

This stuff sure is a lot of fun isn't it? :)

good info appreciate it , well I just rewicked I noticed I had to much cotton in there . juice was started to build up due because I had to much cotton it started gunking my coils up now I rewicked a lot less cotton real short end tips this thing is vaping nice and tasting better same build .4 dual coils
 

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Was not aware of a gen2 Cyclone coming out!! I know they are doing another run on the original due to the high demand for them. There still is no word as to the AFC cap though. I've been trying to get an answer through their FB page, but no answer yet.

Well, that's what I heard. Could be rumors though. And you know how those go. I guess we'll see when the next batch is released. Of course if a gen 2 doesn't show up then it could just mean they're not quite done with the design. If I found a BF version I don't know if I'd wait or not. Time will tell though what's really up.

This is copied from indy vapes website: Note: We are currently out of stock on most Vicious Ant product. Vicious Ant is in pre-production of newer versions. Indy Vapor Shop will have them in stock as soon as possible.
 

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In realtà, il più piccolo aw IMR 18490 sono accreditati al 16,5 amp limite abbastanza per andare giù a 0.40 ohm .. non ottenere più grande e migliore :)


Ma questo è solo pulsare della batteria. Non un colpo pieno di pochi secondi.

(I don't know Italian... But Google!) :D
 
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