Durability, or lack thereof...

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Just a testament to the punishment this mod is able to survive. I was riding my daughter's razor AW scooter a few minutes ago and was bookin it down the driveway when I decided to continue on down the hill to the left. It's not terribly steep but it's about 100 feet long. About halfway down at an easy 10mph, maybe a little faster I tried applying the brake. My feet are too big for the deck and I missed and kept pressing the little peg on the back instead. I was gaining speed and didn't feel comfortable cutting a narrow 90deg turn at the bottom at that speed to avoid flying off a ledge into a bunch of boulders and cacti. I edged to the side of the blacktop and bailed about 20 feet from the bottom. I slid 10 of it on my chest and stomach through gravel and grass and over a small cactus judging by all the needles lodged in my shirt and stomach. My eVic/AGA-T2 combo was dangling from an eGo lanyard around my neck tucked under my shirt so it wouldn't flop around. I had to take the cone piece off to put the lanyard ring over the eGo threading. Anyways it took the full force of the impact of me diving off the scooter onto the gravel with so much as loosening the AGA.

I was so scared I had damaged one or the other that the first thing i did was yank it from underneath my shirt to see if it was ok then I gave myself a once over. My PV fared much better than I did. My shirts full of holes, I've got cactus needles embedded in my stomach, both forearms and palms have scrapes and my brand new jeans got their first blood and grass stains.

So in conclusion, don't be afraid to take your eVic out of the house and go adventuring. :laugh:
 

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Its weakness structurally is localized to the connection from the metal atty port piece to the electronic head. This spot is prone to come loose, it is virtually irrefutable. Now apparently, they have added screws to hold it all together. If that is the case they have addressed my #1 issue with mine. It has popped off about six times, resulting in the wires coming off thrice. The most recent time I replaced the wires with new ones and it is right back in the saddle again. I have changed my method of attaching to shrink tape to hold it together. Other than a minor aesthetic issue, it is good to go!

The other issue is the 510 threads. Now I understand why they are done the way they are (a bit loose-to accommodate various manufacturers) but they wear out. My BCCs now require a 510 to eGo adapter, as will my ProTanks when they get here. That really sucks, too.

All of that said, my eVic has been treated roughly and the internals have handled it without a hitch. They fix those two annoying defects and it is a first rate APV all around.
 

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Its weakness structurally is localized to the connection from the metal atty port piece to the electronic head. This spot is prone to come loose, it is virtually irrefutable. Now apparently, they have added screws to hold it all together. If that is the case they have addressed my #1 issue with mine. It has popped off about six times, resulting in the wires coming off thrice. The most recent time I replaced the wires with new ones and it is right back in the saddle again. I have changed my method of attaching to shrink tape to hold it together. Other than a minor aesthetic issue, it is good to go!

The other issue is the 510 threads. Now I understand why they are done the way they are (a bit loose-to accommodate various manufacturers) but they wear out. My BCCs now require a 510 to eGo adapter, as will my ProTanks when they get here. That really sucks, too.

All of that said, my eVic has been treated roughly and the internals have handled it without a hitch. They fix those two annoying defects and it is a first rate APV all around.

I superglued my head together after it popped to keep that from continuing to happen. Apparently it worked bc the hit it took today was far worse than the drop it took to pop the head apart. I have 0 issues with my 510 connection. I screw all my accessories(1 AGA-T2 and 3 Novas)down flush like you're supposed to. I had a YJ lavatube-a-like and after dropping it a few times my novas completely stripped the 510 threads. They didn't sit flush to the cone. As long as you fully insert your carto, atty, w/e till its flush there shouldn't be an issue. I didn't even have the top cap on today when I landed full force on top of it at 10+ mph. No wobble or anything so I'm pretty satisfied with my threads. I also don't just throw my pieces in he hole and screw it in as fast as possible. I pull the PV and accessory slightly so it doesn't wobble on the way in.

I don't understand why you wouldn't screw your clearos or w/e flush. Cleaning the threads of all devices helps a lot too. No grit and abrasive particles=longer life.
 

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Yep, the 510 threading is less than precise. I can rock tanks back and forth if they're not screw down flush to the top cap. This is a little disappointing. But, hasn't affected functionality (yet).

Never have a problem with my tanks wiggling. But then again, I use an Ego D tank adapter for proper support. Locks them tight without stressing the threads.:)
 

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Well, my eVic just took a major header. Went to ckeck an issue with my Water softener and made the mistake of sitting the eVic on it.(and I KNOW Better!)
1 false move and over it went. dropped over 40" right on to the concrete basement floor head first.
Poor ce5, my best one, never had a chance. It snapped in 2 pieces just below the cap ring.

eVic seems to have survived with only a bruised Ego(lol) but It keeps staring at me like I meant for it to happen.:blink:
I just gave it a new T3 mini full of cappuccino and a 10 minute break.:laugh:
 

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I repaired mine with shrink tape. This is a bit more flexible and less brittle. Since using this method, I have had several rather significant drops but no more separation from the electronics section to the thread piece.

As to the threading, I have a 510 to eGo adapter which seems to have taken care of the threading issue. My eGo threads are still going strong. This head has been through so much abuse, I have ordered a back up head for it. I cannot go without my eVic....

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After 5 months the head on my evic popped off last night when I was merely unscrewing a tank. Fortunately the wiring remained intact. It's never been dropped on a hard surface, only maybe 20" or so on plush carpet a couple of times. I epoxied the thing this morning and all is well. I shouldn't have to worry about that weakness again.
 

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Well, my selector ring gave out on me last night. It is no longer functional. Still tactile but I can't navigate the menus or adjust V/W's. I'm kind of bummed since I've only had the thing since April 2nd.

in all fairness, it did survive one heck of a crash. I'm surprised it didn't slip into a comma sooner.

Hopefully you are at a decent setting and can get more use out of it before it passes on.

Try leaving the battery out over night so it will do a full boot on start. might get un-hung. Almost has to be firmware hung as the ring runs 2 switches.
 
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in all fairness, it did survive one heck of a crash. I'm surprised it didn't slip into a comma sooner.

Hopefully you are at a decent setting and can get more use out of it before it passes on.

Try leaving the battery out over night so it will do a full boot on start. might get un-hung. Almost has to be firmware hung as the ring runs 2 switches.

Yeah, it has taken quite a beating. I'm still able to adjust the settings via the MVR software, but it's a PITA to have to adjust, taste, adjust, taste, rinse and repeat. I've removed the battery and popped in a couple different ones to no avail. I think I might have popped the switches loos or something when it hung on the right side and I gave it a twist back to the left to get it loose. It worked for a couple minutes afterwards but promptly stopped. Oh well. I'll be ordering a new head soon as well as a mech mod. I don't have any backups so I'm really hoping it doesn't crap out on me altogether lol.
 

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The first time I dropped mine the top popped off. This was probably on the first week, from a window sill to a newly carpeted floor. Maybe 3 feet...head first. The wires survived. I was hesitant to use super glue; I was afraid the fumes might mess up the switches. So I wrapped electric tape around the top. It lasted several more drops (no thanks to my cat wanting the window).

A week or so ago the screen occasionally started going fuzzy and emitting a high pitch buzzing noise. Then, last weekend it fired inconsistently, the head unit started to get warm. I could feel it in the plastic area, not on the metal though. The high temp warning would blink in the display when the display was on (ie without firing it for use).

So I took the tape off to have a look inside thinking maybe some debris or juice had gotten in and was causing a short. I didn't see anything obvious. In the course of my examination, I broke the red wire from the board. I'm not going to bother to solder it back on.

I can't even use it as a paper weight cuz it is too light without a battery :rolleyes:

I really did like my eVic, but I don't think I'd get another one unless a more durable version comes out.

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Lucky for you, there already is a more durable version that uses screws to secure the top. :)

I've seen talk of that, and I think there's even a new control head out or soon to be released. I think it is a step in the right direction and it is great that they listened to the customers and came up with an improvement. However, I'd prefer something like a "cage" around the head; the top and bottom are connected with the screen inside. If that makes any sense :rolleyes:

Certainly there will be additional improvements in design and function. I haven't given up on the eVic overall, but my stuff tends to get bounced around quite a bit (I'm a total klutz).

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The first time I dropped mine the top popped off. This was probably on the first week, from a window sill to a newly carpeted floor. Maybe 3 feet...head first. The wires survived. I was hesitant to use super glue; I was afraid the fumes might mess up the switches. So I wrapped electric tape around the top. It lasted several more drops (no thanks to my cat wanting the window).

A week or so ago the screen occasionally started going fuzzy and emitting a high pitch buzzing noise. Then, last weekend it fired inconsistently, the head unit started to get warm. I could feel it in the plastic area, not on the metal though. The high temp warning would blink in the display when the display was on (ie without firing it for use).

So I took the tape off to have a look inside thinking maybe some debris or juice had gotten in and was causing a short. I didn't see anything obvious. In the course of my examination, I broke the red wire from the board. I'm not going to bother to solder it back on.

I can't even use it as a paper weight cuz it is too light without a battery :rolleyes:

I really did like my eVic, but I don't think I'd get another one unless a more durable version comes out.

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Send that busted head to me I'll make it work lol.

I super glued mine so I screwed myself in that I can't take it apart to fix my selector ring switch now.
 

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Holy crap! I just spent the better part of 2 hours doing major surgery on my control head. Right after my last post I knocked the Vic off the table and it busted the super glue loose. I took it as a blessing at first because I was gonna tear it down and try to fix my selector switch. Things didn't go anywhere close to how I planned. I took the 510 connector off, the battery connector, and removed the board cluster from inside the housing. All of that was fairly straight forward. The selector switch is an extremely cheap piece of plastic. The ring sits over 2 small springs that provide the tactile feel, and there is a "fork" on it that clicks the switch back and forth. Now the switch is an extremely small wedge shaped piece of plastic with a "geared" head on it that is secured to the mechanism via an even tinier pin(also made of plastic). The pin had broken off is why my ring quit working. I went to the garage to solder everything back together after cleaning the super glue residue out of the housing. Everything was going well at first other than the selector being irreparable. While putting the board cluster back in the fire button snagged the plastic frame for the fire switch on the boar and broke it. I was so effing ....... I didn't even force the cluster inside. I felt no resistance while sliding it in. When it did that it jammed against the button so i destroyed the switch further while trying to wriggle the board back out.

Anyways I finally got the switch to work by using a strip of gorilla tape to secure the plastic button thing to the little metal spring cup that makes contact to complete the circuit to fire the switch. The whole process was an extreme PITA and I had to solder connections a few times apiece due to functions testing before complete reassembly after the fire switch broke. It works and vapes just fine except there is a slight squeal coming from the board upon hitting the fire button now. I'm not sure what that means but I can only guess my control head is not going to be alive much longer. I really liked this PV and still do, but I don't think I'll throw anymore money Joyetech's way from now on after replacing this head. I'll relegate the eVic to at home backup after I get something more durable and reliable. I see a Provari in my future and some mech mods. I'm just hoping it lasts until I can pick something else up. W/e I get next will definitely be made of ss.
 

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I found out today that you can jump the pos battery terminal to the header next to it and bypass the fire switch altogether. The screen comes up with "Please charge via usb cable" but it fires. I think it may fire beyond 5v like that bc I was using a nova to test it and the freakin hit was massive. I been using an eGo-twist while messing with the Vic at 4.2-4.4v on a 2.5ohm coil. It does its job, but when I jumped the connection it sounded like hot oil on a frying pan and I'm pretty sure I burnt the wick lol. It was a freshly filled nova.

My gorilla tape button fix didn't last long. I'm becoming extremely frustrated and almost smashed the board under my boot earlier.
I cannibalized a flashlight for its button and was gonna solder it to the spring cup thingy but it doesn't accept it on the top-side.
 
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