Duracell Instant Power Charger

[Misty]

Houdini, the only time I see red briefly is when I turn it off..so not a good sign that it's red all the time..
What would be a good power pack for the regular passthroughs then, if there is any? was the APC one working well?

 

[Cellmeister]

I already knew the indicator lights on regular e-cig chargers were meaningless. There are lights on the Duracell pack too. I went by the instructions that came with it and when the light turned green I assumed it was charged. I got no results so I put it back on charge and let it go 15 hours and it still does not work.
Sun Vaporer, on page 4 of this thread you said you had one going strong. Which passthrough were you using?

Houdini

I was doing 2 posts at the same time, sorry if I wrote it that way, it was just in general & not referring to you.

But Keep Vapin"

 

[smokingclam]

Getting a bit confused with all this talk about green light as the 2 Leds turn green for different reasons..
I have a David Yang manual and as Sun pointed out this Duracell is charging the 3.6V battery in the battery box.
I charged the Duracell overnite - tAs far as led lights front side where the USB output port is- red turned to green to show it is fully charged
But the Led light on top of the Duracell only turns green when it is actually charging something in my case when I vape , the green light turns on indicating its charging the passthrough battery box.
With the regular passthroughs, nothing happens to the Led light on top? no reaction when vaping?
(ordered some and guess this Duracell will be useless for those)

Misty yours is working just like mine is. When I hit my manual switch the light turns green to show its charging the battery in the usb pass thru. Then the green light will just fade out when it's done. The only time I get a red light is when the Duracell is out of charge. I think what everyone is saying is it doesn't seem to work on the pass thru without a battery.

 

[Cellmeister]

That's good to know as I only had the battery pass thru to test it with. Anyone sell a battery pass thru for the 901?

Yea, I get mine from the vaporguys, very good quality & fast Shipping.

I Just checked there in stock too.

VaporGuys USB Pass Through Link

Keep Vapin!

 

[Houdini]

Houdini

I was doing 2 posts at the same time, sorry if I wrote it that way, it was just in general & not referring to you.

But Keep Vapin"

No problem. Seems like everyone on the forum is in this thread at the same time.

 

[ZambucaLu]

At the beginning of this thread, clam said:

I have one with the battery in it. I'm testing it on my Janty Kissbox Classic. Working like a charm so far.

I replied:

Oh....well, those will run on that little battery anyway. Someone else was going to see how long one of those little batteries would last without being charged....but I never heard the results.

With my KB, I just carry it around with a charged batt. No battery pack really needed.

Lu

The point is, you can't compare what power source works with a Janty KB or David Yang's manual switch to the basic passthroughs because the former already have a battery inlcuded on the passthrough.

I really don't want to sound like a know it all on this but these things were tested and discussed here some time ago.

Since 1000ma has been proven to work, I would even be leery of the ones that say 750ma. I wouldn't purchase one of those unless the seller could guarantee me they work at least as well as the 1000ma....or money refunded with no problems. Otherwise, it's just another waste of money.

Lu

 

[trog100]

just a comment.. these things here are very good.. expensive chinese price so they should be.. just got a couple..

DealExtreme: $51.40 Mobile Power Rechargeable Emergency USB Battery/Charger (5400mAh)

but they are designed to charges batteries in a similar way to what a PC USB socket would do.. not to provide permanent power to something..

they need to sense a battery before they switch on.. they then charge the battery in the device thats plugged into them... they dont power it directly..

i dont know how the duracell thing works but it might not power directly ether..

so it would charge a janty inline battery but not power an e cig directly..

trog

ps... the DX device would recharge the little janty battery at least eight to ten times.. up to three days e smoking away from the mains.,.

 

[Misty]

Nice powerpack,Trogg & explanation about direct power -
So only a PC powers the regular passthroughs (that have no battery box) "directly"?

Lu,
You always said 1000 mah necessary to power a regular passthrough..I have that embedded in my brain! just weird this Duracell says it but doesn't do it..

 

[Houdini]

It would do it only if the passthrough has a built in battery. Some do some don't. Mine doesn't.

 

[Cellmeister]

Please Note On Most All Small (5) Volt Type Battery Packs.

In General Their are (3) Types / Modes of Small (5) Volt Style Battery Power Packs:

1 - Charges
2 - Powers
3 - Charges & Powers

Hope That Clears Up Some Info, But Not All Packages or Marketing of These products state this.

 

[Sun Vaporer]

A close look at the The Duracell package said 5V 1000mAh. It does not state the mA on the package. We need 1000mA --the mHA goes to the longivity capacity. The mA is the output we need on for it to work. My current battery pack has an output of 5v - 1000mA and a rating of 3000mAH. So do not let the mAh fool you--it is the mA that you need to be 1000mA or 1 amp--Sun

 

[smokingclam]

A close look at the The Duracell package said 5V 1000mAh. It does not state the mA on the package. We need 1000mA --the mHA goes to the longivity capacity. The mA is the output we need on for it to work. My current battery pack has an output of 5v - 1000mA and a rating of 3000mAH. So do not let the mAh fool you--it is the mA that you need to be 1000mA or 1 amp--Sun

I agree Sun! Their own spec sheet says it powers and recharges most usb devices. It's a little confusing....http://www.duracelldirect.com/docs/dr7000li_specsheet.pdf

 

[ZambucaLu]

Nice powerpack,Trogg & explanation about direct power -
So only a PC powers the regular passthroughs (that have no battery box) "directly"?

No, a battery pack will do it, just not that one he linked to.

Lu,
You always said 1000 mah necessary to power a regular passthrough..I have that embedded in my brain! just weird this Duracell says it but doesn't do it..

When these were first being discussed (remember when?), it was common that the acronym "mah" was used rather than "ma". The point then was to look at the output. As long as it said 1000...or 1A....it was good to use. Whenever a poster listed a device to try, we would look at the specs to make sure it was sufficient.

But as more and more researched these things, it got more and more confusing using the "mah" and "ma" terms....I myself still use the mah most times because I got used to it and everyone then knew what I was talking about...lol

You can read Sun's post on it. I don't think I have to rewrite the same thing. But yes, 1000ma, not mah. And never buy anything you can't find the specs on.

Lu

 

[Misty]

I'm getting an electrical engineer degree between Sun, Lu & Trogg..!
Thanks for all your patience!

and Lu..Di posted 5hrs for the battery to go down..when no powersource to recharge!

 

[ZambucaLu]

and Lu..Di posted 5hrs for the battery to go down..when no powersource to recharge!

Really? Well good to know that. Thanks Misty!

And in case anyone is interested....Misty is referring to the battery in the KB and Yang's manual passthroughs. It will last 5 hours on its own (if fully charged to begin with, I would imagine).

Lu

 

[trog100]

Really? Well good to know that. Thanks Misty!

And in case anyone is interested....Misty is referring to the battery in the KB and Yang's manual passthroughs. It will last 5 hours on its own (if fully charged to begin with, I would imagine).

Lu

an e cig needs about 1000 ma to work the coil heater coil.. which is like a mini electric fire element..

pretty much any rechargeable battery pack that isnt simply an alkaline pack will provide enough power.. in fact most will provide much more..

but a lot of these things like the one i mentioned are not battery packs.. they are battery "recharger" packs.. designed to charge the batteries in say an ipod or mobile phone.. but not to power it directly..

a PC USB socket will power things directly.. its also only rated at 500 ma which kinda puts a lie to the claimed to be needed 1000 ma..

trying to charge one of those little janty inline batteries at 1000 mah will kill it by the way..

this little thing is a simple battery pack.. very cheap and could with the right batteries in be used to directly power an e cig.. three 1.2 volts metal hydride or ni cad cells would do.. or one single 3.7 volt AA sized lithium cell...

DealExtreme: $3.80 AA-Battery USB Emergency Backup Power and Charger Pack

trog

ps... just ordered two of them to look at.. and if the bloody pound tanks any more i am gonna have to stop buying all this stuff from DX... he he he

 

[TommyGunBC]

So the verdict is now that the Duracell instant power , will not power a Usb passthrough unless it has a inline battery ?? if this is the case I'm kinda glad I picked up the Xantrex power pack as it is a 2hr backup for laptops so there is lots of power for my passthrough just too big to cart around in your pocket .

here is a link to alot of other links on where to buy the Xantrex

Xantrex XPower PowerSource Mobile 100 DC to AC power inverter - 160 Watt

this thing has enough power that you could run a ipod, zune , psp off of it and also vape at the same time !! Also comes with a adapter to plug in on a flight , and has a car charger plug also .

 

[ZambucaLu]

a PC USB socket will power things directly.. its also only rated at 500 ma which kinda puts a lie to the claimed to be needed 1000 ma..

Yeh, I've never understood this. I never knew what ma my laptop was. When I found out, I could not understand how that worked but other 500ma sources did not. I guess I still don't get it....just another one of those electrical things I'll probably never understand

trying to charge one of those little janty inline batteries at 1000 mah will kill it by the way..

I charge mine on a battery charger I got from dealextreme. Works great.

this little thing is a simple battery pack.. very cheap and could with the right batteries in be used to directly power an e cig.. three 1.2 volts metal hydride or ni cad cells would do.. or one single 3.7 volt AA sized lithium cell...

DealExtreme: $3.80 AA-Battery USB Emergency Backup Power and Charger Pack

At the very begining, I purchased something similar off ebay. It used 4AA batts and it worked. I used it for awhile, until I got my APC....then I switched. I didn't switch because of performance issues....more for size preferences. The APC just happens to be thinner and a lot lighter. I suppose, though, that wouldn't matter if you were using it only at home anyway.

Oddly enough....my Sedansa has a battery power pack accessory that runs on only 3AAs. But that seems to work well too.

Can't seem to post this thing without something down here. Weird!

Lu

 

[Houdini]

In case any of you guys want to see the inside of this Duracell. I'm thinking if this is actually only a supplement to a rechargeable battery maybe the silver piece in the middle is a capacitor and not a battery. I don't know.

 

[protts]

that's a LiIon pack.

my 2 cents

mAH stands for milliAmpere Hour which is capacity of the pack or discharged at supposed miliAmp this pack will last theoretically for an hour.

So look for mA or A as that's the discarge capabilities of the pack.

1000mA = 1A