E cig explosion in Texas - guy dies

[bombastinator]

They know what type and should release the name of it. The police have no right to tell a shop owner what he can and cannot say. It's all friggin politics and ppl get intimidated.

The owner is super nice but pretty much is saying he cannot divulge anything. I gave him my email and told when he can to please share.

They can point out that it is in his best interests, which it probably is. I wouldn’t hold my breath for that call back. Bugging the police for the information when they’re ready to release it is probably a better bet. That store owner is probably scared spitless, and not of the police.

 

[chellie]

I'm pretty sure they should get an attorney immediately and that the attorney would advise them not to say a darn thing. Cop or no cop.

The owner is really nice - they did not sell him anything .... they did see him briefly and then boom! I gave him some links to my blogs so he does not think I am a nutjob.

He made a point of saying that they are not hiding anything.

 

[chellie]

This is how I melted a delrin tip onto my Hobo, and why I no longer use mechs

Shoot it took me quite a while to work up from egos to boxes --- never even considered a mech and I work with electronics! Of course to each their own. I think you have to be more of an aficionado to safely work with mechs. There's so much great stuff now that is safer and I wonder why some are so attracted to mechs.

 

[chellie]

They can point out that it is in his best interests, which it probably is. I wouldn’t hold my breath for that call back. Bugging the police for the information when they’re ready to release it is probably a better bet. That store owner is probably scared spitless, and not of the police.

True - especially in the sue happy and place the blame and get $'s era we seem to be in.

 

[bombastinator]

Shoot it took me quite a while to work up from egos to boxes --- never even considered a mech and I work with electronics! Of course to each their own. I think you have to be more of an aficionado to safely work with mechs. There's so much great stuff now that is safer and I wonder why some are so attracted to mechs.

The impression I get is they have a pretty good ratio of volume. Most cubic centimeters of cloud for fewest cubic centimeters of mech. To get that they have to flirt with destruction though, so it’s unsurprising that this sort of thing happens.

 

[bombastinator]

True - especially in the sue happy and place the blame and get $'s era we seem to be in.

That’s definitely one of them. Airtime is worth money to though and there’s that to be had as well. It’s a big ugly mess and I don’t blame him for staying as far away as possible.

 

[AttyPops]

The owner is really nice - they did not sell him anything .... they did see him briefly and then boom! I gave him some links to my blogs so he does not think I am a nutjob.

He made a point of saying that they are not hiding anything.

I'm sure he's great. And this whole situation sucks. And I'm not implying anything one way or the other.

BUT what we know as "fact" from the articles is that the guy was having trouble with the thing, went into the shop to ask about it, left, and blew his neck off. So I guess I'd get an attorney if I was the shop owner, just to be safe. And I'd be careful about what is said and leave it to the investigation for now. But that's me.

He may have an interest in talking later, after the cops speak, or to deal with any internet rumors. All depends on the situation, that we know relatively little about.

 

[AttyPops]

There's so much great stuff now that is safer and I wonder why some are so attracted to mechs.

The impression I get is they have a pretty good ratio of volume. Most cubic centimeters of cloud for fewest cubic centimeters of mech. To get that they have to flirt with destruction though, so it’s unsurprising that this sort of thing happens.

I'm guessing here and going by many forum posts I've read....but also it's about simplicity and "vape-Armageddon". Electronic ecigs WILL fail to work eventually. They simply wear out, electronics go bad, etc. A mech, with a few extra spar parts can last nearly forever. There's a certain mentality about "buy indestructible tools", and another competing one about "buy options and upgrade/replace frequently". I think e-cigs fall into the middle ground since the coil-thing is so flexible if you DIY your own coils.

I don't want to get into conjecture about wattage, hitting-hard, and vape-products...

 

[chellie]

Proof Facebook is malware

I believe there is malware on fb for sure but what do you mean just seeing the embedded link? Did you find malware embedded in it?

 

[chellie]

I know vaping has saved my life and continues to do so and I just don't seem to need a mech mod to prove it.

Although if the government takes on all of vaping I will learn to use a mech mod safely if and when I have to. I will also prohibit my family from like, contacting the press, doing an autopsy etc. (I realize it's not totally up to me) but if a mod takes me out of this world, I will beg my family to say it was ANYTHING else.

Like, my Joan of Arc sword did it to me as a bunch of villagers put me on a bunch of kindling. Whatever. Not the vape.

Anna

Not that I have a whole huge stash but I have enough boxes I think to outlast me. And I have RTAs so I should be well protected. But ---- if everything broke on me then I'd likely make a mech. Although I work in the tech electronics field I'd have some real "techies" help me build a very cool looking standout mech and pay extra close attention to safety practices.

 

[BillW50]

Wow - Fortunately you were not hurt. When I think of anything DNA - I think safety and this shows that things can happen no matter what device you are using.

Thanks! Well the DNA itself didn't fail. Although QA at Think Vape apparently isn't very good. I also heard of a few cases of the Wismec Reuleaux having a pinched wire too (about 3 years ago now). I never heard of this on other DNA mods though.

 

[ScottP]

What is this post? All I see is "Facebook SDK cannot be loaded".

 

[ScottP]

Thanks! Well the DNA itself didn't fail. Although QA at Think Vape apparently isn't very good. I also heard of a few cases of the Wismec Reuleaux having a pinched wire too (about 3 years ago now). I never heard of this on other DNA mods though.

I am not familiar with that Mod, but I wonder if you could disassemble it and rewire it to fix it.

 

[BillW50]

I am not familiar with that Mod, but I wonder if you could disassemble it and rewire it to fix it.

Oh sure. that isn't a problem. What worries me is how Think Vape could be so careless. A manufacture could screw up in many ways without being dangerous. But the one thing about shorting the battery should be the top priority of something not to do.

 

[ScottP]

But ---- if everything broke on me then I'd likely make a mech.

I don't think I would make a mech. I'd try to get some raw boards to build with (preferably a DNA board), if not available I'd build something with the protections that I have previously mentioned in this thread (fuse and thermal breaker), and maybe a some sort of kick type circuit or at least a variable resistor to adjust voltage. I too have a background in electrical circuits. I just don't have the equipment to solder modern surface mount components so if I built a board myself from scratch, it would likely be too big depending on what I decided to include.

 

[ScottP]

Oh sure. that isn't a problem. What worries me is how Think Vape could be so careless. A manufacture could screw up in many ways without being dangerous. But the one thing about shorting the battery should be the top priority of something not to do.

Yeah that is bad and if something did happen they would be liable. I don't think I would ever buy a TV product again if I were you.

 

[chellie]

What is this post? All I see is "Facebook SDK cannot be loaded".

Oh it is the link to the fb post from the company. I embedded it and it shows on my end. Perhaps your security software is blocking it. I screenshotted it and attached.

 

[ScottP]

Oh it is the link to the fb post from the company. I embedded it and it shows on my end. Perhaps your security software is blocking it. I screenshotted it and attached.

Thanks!

 

[AttyPops]

Oh it is the link to the fb post from the company. I embedded it and it shows on my end. Perhaps your security software is blocking it. I screenshotted it and attached.

I'm glad, in this particular situation, that they don't sell mech mods.

 

[440BB]

If the shop doesn't sell unregulated devices I don't see any responsibility for what happened. Ideally they explained why they don't sell them and warned him about the risks but they aren't required to. There's a good chance this shop, maybe the entire chain, gets vilified and shuts down over a product they had nothing to do with.