e-Cig Rookie Questions- KR808 and eGo-C

[DangYankee]

Hi folks-

Been using e-cigs for a few months now. I kind if eased in, doing both e-cigs and analogs, but now been analog free for more than a week. It's been a learning curve, which is why it's taken a while to totally switch over. Thanks to the info on this forum, I've been able to resolve many of the issues I had starting out, which had kept me from totally going off the analogs until recently.

I started out with a KR-808 system, on a recommendation I got from a friend after a Facebook query about e-cigs. Had some issues there- mainly on refilling carts and battery life. A few weeks ago I got an eGo-C starter kit, mainly because of the bigger battery and some positive posts about it on this forum. I've been generally happy with it, but I do still have a few questions regarding both systems:

1- With the KR808, I learned herein that the batteries that from the supplier my friend turned me on to were gen 1's. Are gen 2 autos much less prone to damage from liquid than the gen 1's? I'm also thinking about going to manual batts. That's what the eGo's are and the push button is something I've easily got used to. Hear these eliminate the leak issue since they are sealed. I'm afraid I have killed a few gen 1 batts because of this.

2- Filling the 808 carts using the condom method was a huge leap forward for me. Prior to learning about this, I used the method supplied with my instructions, which was to drip the fluid in through the hole on the batt end. This was extrermely time consuming, messy, and wasted fluid. I saw a video, I think from V4L, that pooh-poohed the condom method. But it hasn't created any issues for me. As long as I don't overfill (I maybe do 15 drops on a refill) and wait a few hours for the polyfill to totally soak up the fluid, it seems to work fine. And I certainly don't waste as much fluid as I did with the drip refill, especially since I fill 3 or 4 carts at the same time using the same condom. Are there any real issues with this method that I might be missing?

3- On the eGo C, I seem to be going through more fluid than the 808's. It's just my impression that the carts don't last as long. I have read about leak issues with these tanks and I do question how good of a seal I can get with nothing but the hard plastic. Still, after I finish a cart I run a tissue up inside the cone and pick up a little fluid, but not much, maybe two drops worth or so. Is there another reason the eGo cart may not seem to last as long? I understand they hold about the same amount of liquid as an 808 carto.

4- The eGo hit is definitely different than the 808. Using the same fluid (100% PG), there's less smoke and more TH with the eGo. Does this make sense? It's not that one is any better than the other. If I had my druthers I'd probably want a hit that is somewhere between the two extremes. I read herein that VG will give you more smoke and less TH but you have to be careful about the VG in terms of wicking. So I'm thinking about trying a 20%VG liquid in the eGo to see what difference it makes.

5- The supplier of the eGo had an insert with some additional info, and one point was that he cautioned against cleaning atomizers. However, I've read a number of posts from people who seem to have successfully done it. I am wondering, is this just the supplier trying to sell attys or is there something to it?

That's all for now. Appreciate the community for all the enlightening info.

 

[DangYankee]

Sorry- one other question I forgot:

6- I have a passthrough on the KR808. When I use it the hit is much hotter than with the batt. Is this because the PT has a higher voltage? Is there anything I can do o compensate. I much prefer the cooler hit using the batt, but I spend a lot of time at the computer and with the PT then I don't use up batt power.

 

[Oneida]

Hi folks-

Been using e-cigs for a few months now. I kind if eased in, doing both e-cigs and analogs, but now been analog free for more than a week.

Congratulations!!

2- Filling the 808 carts using the condom method was a huge leap forward for me. ... Are there any real issues with this method that I might be missing?

No, there's no problem with filling cartridges that way.

3- On the eGo C, I seem to be going through more fluid than the 808's. It's just my impression that the carts don't last as long. I have read about leak issues with these tanks and I do question how good of a seal I can get with nothing but the hard plastic.

I mostly use the hard plastic caps that the eGo-C tanks come with and don't have any issues with leaking unless the cap has gotten really worn out. My experience is that the primary cause of leaking problems with the eGo tanks is dragging too hard when vaping because the suction created by hard dragging pulls more juice through the wick than the atty can handle.

4- ...I read herein that VG will give you more smoke and less TH but you have to be careful about the VG in terms of wicking. So I'm thinking about trying a 20%VG liquid in the eGo to see what difference it makes.

PG makes my chest tighten up in an asthmatic-like reaction so I only use 100% VG juices in my eGo-C. I don't have any wicking problems even with very thick VG juices but there are two things I do when I start a new tank: (1) I do some primer drags (that is, take a drag without pressing the button) until I can get a hint of the juice's smell during the drag, and (2) I look for a small air bubble or two to float to the top of the tank after a primer drag. If it's a new atty or one I've just cleaned, I usually also drip a drop or two onto the top of the spike tube before inserting the tank in order to help the wick to start wicking and the same can be done if the juice is particularly thick (some VG juices are thicker than others). Anyway, my point here is that 20% VG juice shouldn't cause any wicking problems for you so I would definitely give it a try.

5- The supplier of the eGo had an insert with some additional info, and one point was that he cautioned against cleaning atomizers. However, I've read a number of posts from people who seem to have successfully done it. I am wondering, is this just the supplier trying to sell attys or is there something to it?

One of the nice things about the eGo-C is that the attys are only $5 compared to around $13 for the eGo-T attys but there are still plenty of people (including me) who clean their eGo-C attys. You do need to be a bit careful about it, though, especially if you dry burn them. Vicki from Cignot has a video about cleaning eGo-T attys (the first part about removing the wick plate doesn't apply to the eGo-C but further on she demonstrates dry burning).

I hope this helps in terms of your eGo-C questions. I'm not familiar with 808s so can't help with your questions about those. Congrats again on quitting analogs!

 

[DangYankee]

Thanks, Oneida, for taking time to answer my questions. I had seen some comments in the forum about eGo C leaks occurring from dragging too hard. That may have been a problem for me at the beginning, being freshly off analogs it was a force of habit. I'm being more conscious now to drag slowly.

Tx also for the link to the vid. 5 bucks for an atty isn't a big deal to me; costs about the same as a pack of analogs did. Still, I'm an engineer and so I like to tinker with things, Going to try cleaning a few and see how it goes.

I'm now going back and forth between my eGo C and 808's. Both have their own plusses and minuses, but I like each in its own way and will probably continue that way.