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kalvinf

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I'd like to note that proposed and likely to be implemented Canadian Internet rules will make this even more difficult. If you're in Canada and not already working with solutions like Tor (and associated tools) then any amount of safe shipping might be undone by your Internet footprint. -Magnus

Is there something we should know about Magnus? Beyond the failed Canada ISP pay-per-bandwidth, I haven't heard of anything else in the works.
 

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Is there something we should know about Magnus? Beyond the failed Canada ISP pay-per-bandwidth, I haven't heard of anything else in the works.

The 2009 monitoring expansion in concert with Harper's promised Lawful Access Initiative in particular. Bills C-50, 51, and 52 before the Parliament was dissolved but listed as top agenda items yet again. And I think under the guise of fighting Silk Road-like systems they might just get it through this go about. -Magnus
 

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One more attempt by govt to reign in / exert power over one of the systems enabling people to freely communicate Ideas,thoughts,opinions,and commerce freely without much fear of repercussions...I'm beginning to be concerned that a good portion of internet communications/sales will have to go underground (so to speak) in order to protect peoples identities/safety sooner or later...not paranoia, simply a concern...things like Tor would not be necessary if power hungry fools would leave well enough alone... they don't realize the damage they are doing nor that they themselves may need such a resource sooner or later...

Security is one thing but oppression is another

on a different note I just made some Pizza vape and its sooooooo gooood!!!
 
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Some days I can't tell what would be better: to be a Libertarian or an ultra Liberal. Sometimes they are fighting for the same things, just in vastly different ways, and for completely different reasons.

EDIT: please understand I'm not trying to make a political statement or steer the discussion in that direction, just that when gov't regulations get thrown into the mix (whether in the states or up north) it makes me wonder....
 

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I was thinking more in general, since both stances are appealing in some ways. Would love the gov't to not have so much power/control, but at the same time I don't trust the private sector to do the right thing for anybody other than their shareholders (by and large, we all know a few good biz out there). Ye Gods I'm whining again.... :(
 

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The 2009 monitoring expansion in concert with Harper's promised Lawful Access Initiative in particular. Bills C-50, 51, and 52 before the Parliament was dissolved but listed as top agenda items yet again. And I think under the guise of fighting Silk Road-like systems they might just get it through this go about. -Magnus

I think bill C-51 and 52 didn't pass but softened up the introduction and final passing of Bill C-36 which comes into effect about now. Bill C36 - Health Canada's New Powers Put Canadians at Risk brings much antagonism to Canadians where HC can search and sieze anything from anyone with no oversight and no legal recourse from those who have had goods confiscated. This is the big fear in the Canadian vaping community at this time, especially from the suppliers. Health Canada doesn't have any legal basis to sieze e-cigarette hardware or juice as there is no actual law against the use of, but HC will do whatever they want until court action sets the record straight.

The Internet rules New Canadian laws would kill all internet privacy | National Union of Public and General Employees is probably aimed at giving police task forces tools against internet predators, kiddie porn and to get at file sharing uploaders. Canada has been under fire from other countries for being too lax on internet laws and being a haven for peer-to-peer shared pirated movies and digital songs.

I don't know, maybe there is something else coming at us too - we are really just living a mushroom existance as citizens and only working off best guesses.
 

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My brother lives in Farmington.

He says he saw a llama running down his street last night.

Yours I presume?

Every time he comes up for a visit he picks up bags and bags of Old Dutch.

Looks left 0o

Looks right o0

Okay, no Dharma here is only stuffed. She doesn't roam as far as I know.

There is an Alpaca Farm in Farmington.

Never heard of any getting loose.

Small world, eh?
 

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When I quit smoking, the last couple of attempts at cold turkey, I ate. So yeah, Eat The Quit would be applicable.

I'm curious why that discussion about Beth's "Brad comment" suddenly turned into an e-cig conversation.... It had no reason to go down that road, I'm at a loss as to why it even came up. If nothing about e-cigs had been said, the issue at hand (the post and blowback about it) could be resolved without dragging anyone else into it or flaming (or ruffling the feathers of) other people.

Sorry, don't mean to sound like a rant, just speaking my mind.
 

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They don't like that she came here and posted about them.

I guess she's just supposed to stay over there and bash us instead.

No, I get that. They resolved that and looked like everything was fine. Then they started making the assumption that she was going to try an e-cig or some nonsense. It's that type of thing that got this whole thing started. I was hoping that dragging other BS into a group or a thread that wasn't part of the discussion was OBE (overcome by events) and we had all moved forward.
 
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