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I think you should probably go back and read through the manuals. It's right there on page 785 of book 25. It's the page that says that women are allowed to change their minds about anything they've ever said for no reason at all no apology necessary.
Most of the time when we say stuff, we think it sounds so evolved and we really mean it, but deep down it's just a test.
Nah, I'm not a real Aussie, only been here 42 years, I'm a pommie by birth.
Actually I'm somewhat "over" long firearms generally, although I'm thinking of joining a pistol club as there's one only a couple miles away from where I now live.
I've always been somewhat fascinated by the mystique of the African continent though. When I was 15 I knew England held nothing for me (as the "fairly bright" son of a mere labourer) and I decided to get out of there. My first 2 choices were Rhodesia (as Zimbabwe was then known) and Canada, but when I found there was a thing called "The Assisted Passage Scheme" which would pay my fare to Australia, provided I stayed at least 2 years, there was no choice, I could never have afforded the fares to Africa or Canada anyway.
I hated England, when I was kicked out of the highest grade in school (which meant I couldn't sit university entrance exams) because my family couldn't afford the uniforms I knew I had to leave.
Best move I ever made. I love Australia, in case you can't tell!
Cheers
not likely anyway...I'm happy with what I have...we have our differences but we were friends first...so we both knew what we were getting into...
and that fits into this
1 The female always makes the rules
1 The rules are subject to change at any time without prior notification.
3 No male can possibly know all the rules.
4 If the female suspects the MALE know all the rules, she must immediately change some or all of the rules.
5 The female is never wrong.
6 If the female is wrong, it is due to a misunderstanding which was a result of something the male did or said wrong.
7 The male must apologize immediately for causing said misunderstanding.
8 The female may change her mind at any time.
9 The male must never change his mind without the express written consent of the female.
10 The female has every right to be angry or upset at any time.
11 The male must remain calm at all times unless the female wants him to be angry or upset.
12 The female must, under no circumstances, let the male know whether or not she wants him to be angry and/or upset.
13 The male is expected to mind read at all times.
14 Any attempt to document the rules could result in bodily harm.
15 If the female has PMS, all the rules are null and void.
16 The female is ready when she is ready.
17 The male must be ready at all time.
18 The male who doesn't abide by the rules can't take the heat, lacks backbone, and is a wimp.
and that fits into this
1 The female always makes the rules
1 The rules are subject to change at any time without prior notification.
3 No male can possibly know all the rules.
4 If the female suspects the MALE know all the rules, she must immediately change some or all of the rules.
5 The female is never wrong.
6 If the female is wrong, it is due to a misunderstanding which was a result of something the male did or said wrong.
7 The male must apologize immediately for causing said misunderstanding.
8 The female may change her mind at any time.
9 The male must never change his mind without the express written consent of the female.
10 The female has every right to be angry or upset at any time.
11 The male must remain calm at all times unless the female wants him to be angry or upset.
12 The female must, under no circumstances, let the male know whether or not she wants him to be angry and/or upset.
13 The male is expected to mind read at all times.
14 Any attempt to document the rules could result in bodily harm.
15 If the female has PMS, all the rules are null and void.
16 The female is ready when she is ready.
17 The male must be ready at all time.
18 The male who doesn't abide by the rules can't take the heat, lacks backbone, and is a wimp.
I keep that posted on my refrigerator for my husband, just in case he forgets.
Well, if anybody is planning an African excursion let me know...
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Hangover II? Worth seeing? -Magnus
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Hangover II? Worth seeing? -Magnus
An African excursion is sadly out of reach for a retired computer programmer, I'm afraid
Hangover II gets 6.9 out of 10 on IMDB so it can't be dreadful, but it wouldn't be my cup of tea, I fear.
I'm more the 30's/40's film noir type myself, and, bizarrely, musicals.
The musicals are thanks to my wife, I never could stand them but now after years of watching them with her I've come to enjoy a good one! That's what 31 years of marriage does for you, I suppose.
Cheers
The problem MustangSallie is thats the preamble...the rest is a set of possible rules...there is no complete manual on women Magnus...they would have to kill us if we knew...
Well its been 10 months today since I quit smoking,sure I used Wellburtrin for 6 months but didn't consider it that much help except for being being in a cheerier mood. No but with support from quit smoking sites helped me to stay focused & always on the look out for Nicodemon-haha. Those first few months were hard but from the 4th month on it got better-theirs still times when I miss it but not enough to throw away my quit.
I recommend always using an adapter with it to prevent the juices from running directly into the circuit board/components at all times and if you like a 901 as I do I would order a couple of Keith's truly great drip shields. Empire 901 Drip Shields
These will prevent the juice from contaminating any parts on the Darwin and also re-up the juice into your atty. Definitely a big plus for the Darwin and any other device like "The Empire" which uses a native 901 atty.
Did you know the Darwin can on occasion bring your dead atty's back to life? It's true!
Drip sheilds=WIN!
C.B.
Hey that applies here too!
C.B.
Yes, and here, but everybody knows that by now, I think.
btw, did you see that Stephanie wants to be a peacemaker now? That'll be the day!
Cheers
I got her peacemaker right here......... Grr.
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I think my memoirs will be called "Insomnia was my muse.." ..
-Magnus
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I think my memoirs will be called "Insomnia was my muse.." ..
-Magnus
u too?...............no I have another picked out yours is safe...
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I've been enjoying the conversation collection here so much tonight! Thank You!
With such a wide field of record-breakingly excellent contestants, it wasn't easy, and it took me a minute, but here's my personal fave, which I am confident is a shoo-in to for the coveted Best.Post.Juxtaposition.Ever.Award.
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Can I + like a googillion?
YES! That says so many things that I've wanted to say, and just couldn't get it to come out making sense, being polite, and under 7000 words!
Props, Miss Kristin!
But this is the part I've been pondering lately:
There's a distinction between making an actual permanent change to a different behavior and simply refraining from a behavior, there's a difference between depriving ourselves of a thing and indulging in something we like better.
Here, the shared goals we have are very cut-and-dried - reduce or cease the consumption of tobacco cigarettes and use e-cigarettes instead.
Our reasons for wanting to do that tend to be mundane and practical - things like a desire to live longer, avoid diseases, save money, or in my case, wanting to be more physically comfortable.
Whatever beliefs and primordial needs we may have as individuals exist independently of, and are even transcended by what we share, namely those very one-dimensional, temporal goals.
We support and encourage each other in every aspect of achieving them, from the basic ascent up the learning curve to the most minute details of the instruments we'll use to do it.
For the Quitistas, smoking, or ceasing to smoke, takes on a role that's almost symbolic of a larger, more spiritual process, or at least spiritual-adjacent.
I don't mean they don't want to stop smoking, I mean they want to stop smoking in a materially different way, for a whole other layer of reasons.
I'm not sure if it's possible to separate their smoking cessation process from their beliefs or divorce it from those primordial needs.
They don't want to "upgrade" to a behavior or a device that is more pleasurable, they only want to renounce the pleasure of the original one and NOT replace it! That refraining, that renunciation and deprivation, are for them, crucial elements that must exist in order for their process to be in accord with their needs and beliefs.
I enjoy the comical aspects of everything, but never with disrespect, certainly not malice, and I haven't perceived those things coming from other people. I probably have some beliefs that would make you smile, and if you did, I wouldn't take offense, I smile at some of them myself - and laugh out loud at others!
That's going to cause some feelings on the part of some of the people there, specifically those who have been there a while and bonded with the place. And yeah, there's a little arpeggio of Galileo and the church, Ed Sullivan era culture and Elvis, lather rinse repeat for the Beatles, on and on, and we could probably have gone back and started with Scott Joplin (and all rejoice that I didn't).
Even with all that, I think there'll always be a place for forums like the Quitistas. For some people, "cold turkey" is simply a better fit - even the only fit - for a particular configuration of beliefs and deep-seated needs, and for some people, the whole process, as well as their reasons for wanting to stop smoking, is so firmly rooted in those beliefs and needs that it wouldn't even make sense to try and separate it.
As I read the thoughts of people both here and there, my impression is that as is the case with me, for many if not most people here, those more "secular" or temporal goals are the whole ball of wax, the sum and substance of the prize, whereas there, they're almost incidental, just little bonus prizettes, in the context of that larger, more complex journey.
If someone who's just in it for the temporal, quotidian stuff about saving money or living more time on earth asked my advice, I'd tell them to come poke around here, even if they weren't interested in changing to e-cigarettes at all!
Oh, no, I've done it again! Maybe I should have put it on the blog, it's sort of an (extremely abbreviated, believe it or not) version of the Lost Rant cigarbabe Inspired, and now here comes Kristin inspiring so much of the same rantage.
Merciful sum-up: Any dialogue is good dialogue. Whole entire countries and cultures have been carrying on a variation of that same discussion for centuries on end, with results all over the map. There is common ground. Kristin's post has the potential to be a Turning Point. cigarbabe and Kristin are both awesome.
With such a wide field of record-breakingly excellent contestants, it wasn't easy, and it took me a minute, but here's my personal fave, which I am confident is a shoo-in to for the coveted Best.Post.Juxtaposition.Ever.Award.
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Topic Change Zone
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Can I + like a googillion?
YES! That says so many things that I've wanted to say, and just couldn't get it to come out making sense, being polite, and under 7000 words!
Props, Miss Kristin!
But this is the part I've been pondering lately:
As I read more there, I've wondered if I've been oversimplifying the terrain of that common ground, projecting too much of my own worldview on it.
There's a distinction between making an actual permanent change to a different behavior and simply refraining from a behavior, there's a difference between depriving ourselves of a thing and indulging in something we like better.
Here, the shared goals we have are very cut-and-dried - reduce or cease the consumption of tobacco cigarettes and use e-cigarettes instead.
Our reasons for wanting to do that tend to be mundane and practical - things like a desire to live longer, avoid diseases, save money, or in my case, wanting to be more physically comfortable.
Whatever beliefs and primordial needs we may have as individuals exist independently of, and are even transcended by what we share, namely those very one-dimensional, temporal goals.
We support and encourage each other in every aspect of achieving them, from the basic ascent up the learning curve to the most minute details of the instruments we'll use to do it.
For the Quitistas, smoking, or ceasing to smoke, takes on a role that's almost symbolic of a larger, more spiritual process, or at least spiritual-adjacent.
I don't mean they don't want to stop smoking, I mean they want to stop smoking in a materially different way, for a whole other layer of reasons.
I'm not sure if it's possible to separate their smoking cessation process from their beliefs or divorce it from those primordial needs.
They don't want to "upgrade" to a behavior or a device that is more pleasurable, they only want to renounce the pleasure of the original one and NOT replace it! That refraining, that renunciation and deprivation, are for them, crucial elements that must exist in order for their process to be in accord with their needs and beliefs.
I enjoy the comical aspects of everything, but never with disrespect, certainly not malice, and I haven't perceived those things coming from other people. I probably have some beliefs that would make you smile, and if you did, I wouldn't take offense, I smile at some of them myself - and laugh out loud at others!
That's going to cause some feelings on the part of some of the people there, specifically those who have been there a while and bonded with the place. And yeah, there's a little arpeggio of Galileo and the church, Ed Sullivan era culture and Elvis, lather rinse repeat for the Beatles, on and on, and we could probably have gone back and started with Scott Joplin (and all rejoice that I didn't).
Even with all that, I think there'll always be a place for forums like the Quitistas. For some people, "cold turkey" is simply a better fit - even the only fit - for a particular configuration of beliefs and deep-seated needs, and for some people, the whole process, as well as their reasons for wanting to stop smoking, is so firmly rooted in those beliefs and needs that it wouldn't even make sense to try and separate it.
As I read the thoughts of people both here and there, my impression is that as is the case with me, for many if not most people here, those more "secular" or temporal goals are the whole ball of wax, the sum and substance of the prize, whereas there, they're almost incidental, just little bonus prizettes, in the context of that larger, more complex journey.
If someone who's just in it for the temporal, quotidian stuff about saving money or living more time on earth asked my advice, I'd tell them to come poke around here, even if they weren't interested in changing to e-cigarettes at all!
Oh, no, I've done it again! Maybe I should have put it on the blog, it's sort of an (extremely abbreviated, believe it or not) version of the Lost Rant cigarbabe Inspired, and now here comes Kristin inspiring so much of the same rantage.
Merciful sum-up: Any dialogue is good dialogue. Whole entire countries and cultures have been carrying on a variation of that same discussion for centuries on end, with results all over the map. There is common ground. Kristin's post has the potential to be a Turning Point. cigarbabe and Kristin are both awesome.
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