Beth, I'm very sorry you smoked. Are you sure you can't just stop with cold turkey? You did it for over 10 months, and you haven't been smoking that long.
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Beth, I'm very sorry you smoked. Are you sure you can't just stop with cold turkey? You did it for over 10 months, and you haven't been smoking that long.
Thanks-you'd think it wouldn't be as hard to stop again-just biting the bullitt & doing so.
Well, Here is a room to chat in if anyones interested. xat.com/truegoodfellas
Its a live room, but no cams or anything, and you dont have to member up. They are fun rooms. Ill give ya 3 guess how the pif chat room got started
Its a live room, but no cams or anything, and you dont have to member up. They are fun rooms. Ill give ya 3 guess how the pif chat room got started
Well, Here is a room to chat in if anyones interested. xat.com/truegoodfellas
Its a live room, but no cams or anything, and you dont have to member up. They are fun rooms. Ill give ya 3 guess how the pif chat room got started
1. They didn't want to install an IRC client and hated Mibbit
2. They forgot timtams PM address
3. They were afraid of rbot
I'm betting that none of those three really happened but that is my story and I'm sticking to it.
Theres a big difference between having a smoke, and becoming a smoker again. Sooner or later, you gotta forget about the quite, and just get comfortable being a non smoker, and just stay that way.
The "why" is not discussed except between the mod and the end-user. There are some posts referring that further back but as advised, we're not to speak of Fight... err.. bans. -Magnus
Not seeing much for new posts though, not that I care to really look.
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Chief, they elected not to use the ECF IRC server. I wasn't around during that time frame so I couldn't tell you the real reason.
That was the room we first used ...Story is a bit longer, but for simplicity, xat's are great chat rooms.
...Story is a bit longer, but for simplicity, xat's are great chat rooms.
Therein lies the problem, until we do have better materials we have the FDA and FUD storm dikes to push up against. Worst yet, the more ~improper~ studies are conducted, the less legitimacy is lent to them.
So yes, we're all going to advocate based on our own successes but to take the next steps from hobby into industry, we need better data. And at the very least, we need to understand that being absolute in the way it's presented is counterproductive to those who actually do better understand the necessary protocols (read: Doctors and inquisitive end-users).
No, there is no proper control in the last one either. Not one of them had a proper control and some of them have really wonky ways of determining the potential error range. Especially the Blu one.
These all read like non-medical assays done on herbals and the likes. They're just not good enough. And if you look at the history of how ~those~ have turned out, then the real numbers are equally likely to be far worse than actually support the initial assertions.
So we continue to go only our experiences and our own beliefs that we can make this work better. I'm good, very OK, with that... but I highly doubt the results for the stock e-cigs that were subject as cited in most of these (there was no mention of modifications or advanced user devices) will hold up equally well.
The question we should be asking ourselves in that light... how do we encourage improvement? It really comes down to monies and proxying against the tide of the FDA. More on that later. -Magnus
I think you have little to lose and everything to gain by trying an e-cig at this point. You didn't seem to be very happy in your quit and also seemed pretty disgruntled that you had to. I can relate, so I'm not meaning to give you a hard time. If you can stay off smokes without one, then do so... but, bottom line is don't give in and smoke any more than you already have!
If you do decide to give it a try, go for zero or very low nicotine. You shouldn't need any more than that after 10 months. You'd be amazed how far even zero nicotine will go in satisfying your urges to smoke.
Yeah, its strange how 0 nic can be so convincing.....nice to see 6 guests watching...
Oops. Sorry if I broke a rule there. I didn't know we're not to speak of it, but I'd rather not anyway.
Stepped out for a sibling's obligatory birthday party... I guess party was the wrong word, but I'll never understand why an adult needs to open gifts in front of a large audience.
Just finished watching Insidious. I don't know why I do that to myself but I love scary movies. Poor hubby is ticked cause I hit him. Didn't mean to...one of those "OMG that scared me" slaps. OK once he was okay with bit the third was too much lol. Now he is imitating Billy Bob Thornton in Slingblade which also creeps me out because he does it so well. Beer and pickled beans...I don't think it is going to be very nice in here tonight. Now I am going to finish updating the apparently on my phone and relax for a bit.
How is everyone this evening?
How is everyone this evening?
Hi Melanie!
(before Magnus scolds me for not using the CASAA quit counter... the page appears to be down).
(before Magnus scolds me for not using the CASAA quit counter... the page appears to be down).
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