E-Cigarette Forum Discussion Thread

[blue8091]

Blue's been around a while, probably just sharing her new found favorites. Been toying with giving them a try myself, but I have too many favorites at the moment. Wouldn't know what to replace if I found another.

I'll be around when you get home C.B. Give me a shout.

Morning Sallie!!! Yep! I would be the regular off topic person! I just come here for the nice peeps...I know a good thing when I see it!

 

[blue8091]

Hello and welcome!
Were you looking for this thread?
C.B.

Thanks for the welcome Cigarbabe

 

[renstyle]

Morning all.

It's been an interesting almost 48hours. Had my first major "hardware malfunction" with my Riva batts. Apparently one of my clearos (that I JUST GOT ON FRIDAY) had a short. After I filled it up, hit the button it wouldn't stop. After about 10 seconds the switch light started blinking really fast, then the cursed "magic smoke". The internal protection did it's job, but the battery is now toast.

Now for the facepalm.... like an idiot, I tried taking the clearo apart to see "what went wrong"... thought I had it fixed. So I put it on my ONLY OTHER BATTERY.

Magic smoke stinks btw....

The good news is that I am NOT getting cranky, and NOT feeling the need for an analog. Just disappointed in myself for not thinking.

So... I've heard some of you have used a roughstack? Any opinions regarding? After this little mini debacle I'm going to want at least one type of PV that you can take completely apart AND has user replaceable bits, without being too obscure.

Had considered the Chuck, DC has had luck with them, but magnus has not.

ETA: the e-power also looks interesting, but I'm still leaning toward that RS, since it can be upgraded to 6v and 7.4v quite easily (both of which I've never tried).

 

[LibertariaNate]

I really like my Roughstack. It hasn't seen much use since I upgraded to a Darwin, but it is quite reliable and it's easy enough to fix it should something not work. Honestly though, the only thing that could fail on it is the button. The latest version they replaced the straw/spring combo with a wire to the atomizer connector so I suppose you could accidently pull that wire out if you weren't paying attention. Form factor is nice as well. Only suggestion I would make it to think about getting one of those extenders. I've heard using a tank on it can be uncomfortable/not possible because of the button position. At the very least I like the extender just because it helps protect the connector threads.

 

[renstyle]

Only suggestion I would make it to think about getting one of those extenders. I've heard using a tank on it can be uncomfortable/not possible because of the button position. At the very least I like the extender just because it helps protect the connector threads.

Thanks for the info! I assume you are referring to the 510-to-510 extender? Luckily I have one of these on order (GP has a 5 for $5 deal on their adapters that I couldn't pass up, so I'm set for that!

 

[LibertariaNate]

Thanks for the info! I assume you are referring to the 510-to-510 extender? Luckily I have one of these on order (GP has a 5 for $5 deal on their adapters that I couldn't pass up, so I'm set for that!

I was, but of course you can use any 510-to-whatever adapter you choose.

Let me know if the 510-510 adapter is sealed, please. I can't tell from their site...

 

[renstyle]

I was, but of course you can use any 510-to-whatever adapter you choose.

Let me know if the 510-510 adapter is sealed, please. I can't tell from their site...

I will let you know for certain once I receive it, but I'm thinking it is not, otherwise it wouldn't work for auto batts.

Then again, who else would need a 510-to-510 if it wasn't a mod or other non-auto setup?

 

[rothenbj]

Well Lib, I found this place, kind of like an elephant in the room once you look around a bit. I'm just glad I took the approach I did and had them delete my post before it went went to the board and also had them delete my account. All I really said was you don't need to quit nicotine to quit smoking, but that was before I realized I was in a cults environment. Hopefully ECF never develops into something like that.

I read the origins of this thread and a few pages of the hundreds. I did see Roly's warning post and have to say he's totally right about not getting involved although I'm not sure if ECF's "no excuse" policy is very fair. Had I not backed out quickly on my own and not knowing the history, I could easily have said something that would have gotten me banned here without knowing there was an issue.

Two final points. I believe someone with authority here should speak with a like individual there and just set a policy that is displayed prominently eliminating any posts on their site on harm reduction products. I personally don't see the purpose of the E cig section if every comment is going to be attacked Second and a point I made with their admin (who didn't appear to be the fundamentalist radical some of the members appear to be) is that they should't be a smoking cessation site when they truly an anti-smoking/nic/tobacco site (other than pharma support products, of course).

I shall say though, in the thread I did read, Thad did a good job of trying to help the person who was asking about E Cigs and using them to wean off nic, but it's such a slippery slope in that climate.

 

[LibertariaNate]

Obviously no one can tell you what to do, but I think having your account deleted was probably for the best. The biggest issue I see there is the lack of mods. There is only one and he is not active in any sense of the word. Here we have numerous mods who play a very active role and most importantly are fair. Because of that, I don't expect to see ECF ever devolve to the level seen at QSMB.

Due to the mod issue over there I don't think anyone would be able to affect any appreciable change to policy. You read the mod's (Fred) post re: e-cig policy, but he doesn't enforce it. If anyone is banned, it's always someone pro e-cig. Lack of enforcement and uneven punishment when policy is actually enforced has resulted in the "Lord of the Flies" mentality so prevalent there.

It's not all bad there though. We've met several very nice (former) members of that forum (Hi, deuxtrouble and neriah!). I'm sure there are plenty of others there as well that just kept mum because they didn't want to get involved. Really it's a select group of ANTZ that cause the bulk of the issues. No moderation just encourages the activity.

Nice of you to stop by. That one bad looking dog.

 

[rothenbj]

Da dog took a break, Joe took his place.

 

[DC2]

Lack of enforcement and uneven punishment when policy is actually enforced has resulted in the "Lord of the Flies" mentality so prevalent there.

I can't tell you how many times "Lord of the Flies" crossed my mind.

 

[LibertariaNate]

For those interested in WTA...

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/aroma-ejuice/214866-whole-tobacco-alkaloid-wta-eliquid-will-soon-available-aroma-ejuice.html

 

[DC2]

For those interested in WTA...

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/aroma-ejuice/214866-whole-tobacco-alkaloid-wta-eliquid-will-soon-available-aroma-ejuice.html

Thanks for posting that!

 

[cigarbabe]

Well Lib, I found this place, kind of like an elephant in the room once you look around a bit. I'm just glad I took the approach I did and had them delete my post before it went went to the board and also had them delete my account. All I really said was you don't need to quit nicotine to quit smoking, but that was before I realized I was in a cults environment. Hopefully ECF never develops into something like that.

I read the origins of this thread and a few pages of the hundreds. I did see Roly's warning post and have to say he's totally right about not getting involved although I'm not sure if ECF's "no excuse" policy is very fair. Had I not backed out quickly on my own and not knowing the history, I could easily have said something that would have gotten me banned here without knowing there was an issue.

Two final points. I believe someone with authority here should speak with a like individual there and just set a policy that is displayed prominently eliminating any posts on their site on harm reduction products. I personally don't see the purpose of the E cig section if every comment is going to be attacked Second and a point I made with their admin (who didn't appear to be the fundamentalist radical some of the members appear to be) is that they should't be a smoking cessation site when they truly an anti-smoking/nic/tobacco site (other than pharma support products, of course).

I shall say though, in the thread I did read, Thad did a good job of trying to help the person who was asking about E Cigs and using them to wean off nic, but it's such a slippery slope in that climate.

You are correcto mundo rothenbj it is not fair in the least. Thad does a wonderful job but they still have threatened to report and complain about his responses though they are fact based and respectful. I'm not trying to be difficult or rebellious by posting this only wanting to be heard while I can.
Regardless of mine or anyone's intentions or how nicely we may play I expect to be banned any moment which is why I have mostly limited my postings here {and there} since as I read it I can be banned if any of those uh people complain. On the other hand Rolygate says ecf isn't responsible for what members posts in regards to making claims about our quitting with ecigs etc.
I understand his conservative views for ECF and they are in place to protect it for us. I just can't agree with a policy which when implemented just gives those with an agenda against any method except CT a way to be rid of us one by one since any complaint {as I understand it} will trigger expulsion no matter where it's posted possibly? I had not been in ECF when Rolygates post was made so I never got to see it before I was banned which isn't an excuse but some warning I would have appreciated.
Since they know we shall indeed be banned they are certainly complaining is my guess..
There is no way to prevent that unless we allow them to simply run us all off for posting factual information and helping those members who have need and have asked us for specifics.
Thankfully Fred hasn't seen fit to ban those whom are left. I do try not to reply to the usual baiters who come here to frighten members with alarmists posts or the jumbled postings there in response to God knows what if I can help it and I admit that can be hard for me!
Let's face it, they don't care if we're banned from here or there as long as it causes a perceived problem for those of us who vape. They'll be happy {when we get banned} as they've said quite a few times publicly in posts on a few sites.
I for one am sorry they feel that way.
I think there is room for any method which can help you stop inhaling the one by-product which will eventually kill you
SMOKE.
C.B.

 

[kristin]

From my understanding, the zero tolerance policy only applies to complaints about comments made at QSMB, not comments made here on ECF.

It would be ridiculous to ban ECF members because QSMB members complained about us talking about nicotine use and e-cigs as a hobby here at ECF. ECF doesn't have a nicotine abstinence policy like QSMB so the QSMB members who read here cannot claim we are breaking any rules by what we post on ECF. (Besides, he'd have to ban 80% of the ECF members if just offending a QSMB member with a post on ECF was the case - this whole site offends them! lol)

Regardless of mine or anyone's intentions or how nicely we may play I expect to be banned any moment which is why I have mostly limited my postings here {and there} since as I read it I can be banned if any of those uh people complain.
C.B.

 

[LibertariaNate]

Agreed, Kristin...

There's no reason to tempt fate and give a QSMB member a reason to complain. I don't want to see any ECF members banned because of a silly forum war. Lots of people here could use your help, CB.

 

[cigarbabe]

What war?
Why should I or anyone allow them to continue post lies and misinformation over there when I can help to temper that? It doesn't matter if I was to limit my posts over there to "congrats on quits" since *snipped* here. I don't like being for*snipped* especially when the complaints aren't legitimate given their publicly posted agendas.
Who knew people were so fckud up?!
C.B.

 

[LibertariaNate]

... It doesn't matter if I was to limit my posts over there to "congrats on quits" ...

... the complaints aren't legitimate given their publicly posted agendas. ...

I think those two lines sum it up...

 

[nitejanitor]

Just wanted to say it was interesting-I did consider using an e cig before I gave up my quit but figured I've been free why start the addiction again whther nic free or what. But theirs some people here who just like to pick (not here) but on another site & I'm tired of it. A good share of you are pretty nice but its always a few how don't know when to let go or how to be decent. So enjoy & hopefully the ones who drive people off your site will grow up. I might return someday if I decide to vap but otherwise theirs no sense in posting here anymore-it gets old reading the Q board bashing by some & oh how unfair the Q board is but thats life always a handful NOT HAPPY. To those who I did enjoy reading-it was nice.

bye bye it was fun for awhile.

 

[renstyle]

For those interested in WTA...

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/aroma-ejuice/214866-whole-tobacco-alkaloid-wta-eliquid-will-soon-available-aroma-ejuice.html

Thanks for posting that!

I second, third, and fourth that!