I don't think kids would get into nicotine gum because that stuff tastes like .... and does not have a pleasant consistency. I gagged when I first tried it.
E-Cigarette Liquid Nicotine Poses Poison Risk
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don't know if I should post it here. There are a bunch of documents relating to Nicotr ol on the F D A site that pretty much seem to piant nicotine as being a natural and harmless substance. In particular, there are numerous mention that it degrades rapidly in the air. I'm going over some of it, if anyone wants a link - it's a convenient single page of links to pertinent documents - PM me and I'll get it right to you. I think there might be some good, possibly even game-changing, info in these articles.
Doesn't this sound familiar. This paragraph is from the submitted paperwork for Nicotrol discussing the environmental impacts including air distribution. Essentially, the scientists claim nicotine as used in both cigarettes and inhalers (and by design, e-cigs and PV's in my opinion) has negligible effects. This claim is not shown to be disputed or questioned by the FDA.
ok thanks...if I did it wrong, please correct 
http://www. accessdata . fda .gov/ drugsatfda_docs /nda /97/ 020714_nicotrol_toc.cfm
The Environmental doc says a lot
http://www. accessdata . fda .gov/ drugsatfda_docs /nda /97/ 020714_nicotrol_toc.cfm
The Environmental doc says a lot
The e-cigarette industry is the new scapegoat. Much more poisonings (and actual deaths) occur with medicines (including 'safe' and 'approved NRT's!), cosmetics and house-cleaning products, for example. No-one is crying out loud for a ban on those products. People understand that the industry's role is to make effective products for their intended use. If those products NEED dangerous chemichals in their formulation to be effective, then it is the role of people who USE those products to take steps in order to prevent domestic, or industrial, accidents. If product makers were supposed to protect children, we would buy bleach bottles full of mineral water.
"Keep out of reach and sight of children". If it's considered enough for a gallon-sized bottle of bleach (I have NEVER seen a bottle of bleach with a child-proof cap, BTW), then it should be enough for a small bottle of e-liquid.
But, on the particular case of the e-cig industry, ideology takes place. Let's ban, and blame, an entire industry that has helped millions of people to positively change their lives, for careless child care! "But the e-cig is a 'want', not a 'need'...!" Well, guess what? Cosmetics are a 'want' too!! And if a child is poisoned by chewing too many Nicorettes, no-one will blame Pharma for producing them, or even the grieving parents for not having trying to quit cold-turkey! At most, reasonable people will blame them for not taking proper care of their child.
This rampant, biased ideology against our devices, against our adult, informed and personal choice, can be readily seen just by reading some headlines: "Electronic cigarettes have sent x children to the Hospital". Really? Was it the "e-cig" that made this? Not by a chance, the irresponsability/negligence of adults who should have known better? God forbid news reporters from attacking BP, for example: I have never read something like "Pharma has sent x children to the Hospital", in NRT-related child poisonings...!
I understand that Wizard Labs uses BP nicotine.
And yes, it's very good.
Just sayin'....
I understand that Wizard Labs uses BP nicotine.
And yes, it's very good.
Just sayin'....
No, they only use Pharma grade nicotine. BP takes Pharma grade and, well, makes it better.
....... it comes in candy "tastes like ...." flavors so we know it's being made to entice childern. And they are exactly the same shape and proportions as Sponge Bob - tell me that's just a coincidence.
Now now Ms. Moon, let's stick to the facts here. They don't exactly say the inhalers (or the gum for that matter...) are recommended for adults over the age of twelve. They do however say the use of them is contraindicated in persons under the age of thirteen.
I wonder how many years you have to be smoking in order to work up to needing NRT by the age of 12 years and 364 days?
Now now Ms. Moon, let's stick to the facts here. They don't exactly say the inhalers (or the gum for that matter...) are recommended for adults over the age of twelve. They do however say the use of them is contraindicated in persons under the age of thirteen.
I wonder how many years you have to be smoking in order to work up to needing NRT by the age of 12 years and 364 days?
Really? Directions (verbatim) from Nicorette Mist (Johnson&Johnson):
"Adults and Children over 12 years of age
Use 1 or 2 sprays when cigarettes normally would have been smoked or if cravings emerge. If after the first spray cravings are not controlled within a few minutes, a second spray should be used. If 2 sprays are required, future doses may be delivered as 2 consecutive sprays.
Most smokers will require 1-2 sprays every 30 minutes to 1 hour."
And the list of ingredients:
Propylene glycol
Anhydrous ethanol
Trometamol
Poloxamer 407
Glycerol--(that's VG for those who don't know)
Sodium hydrogen carbonate
Levomenthol
Mint flavour
Cooling flavour
Sucralose
Acesulfame potassium
Hydrochloric acid--ewwwwwww....
Purified water
AHA! So THAT's what's missing from my e-juice! I just KNEW there was something! (I agree....eeeewwwwwwww)
Has anyone noticed the increase in TV advertising of Chantix and nicorette since the states for the most part blew a big raspberry at pharma in outlawing e-cigarettes? snicker
Not so much Nicorette in CA, but Chantix--almost every commercial break! What's up with that?
Really. The gum pharma information says:
Nicorette 4mg Gum - Summary of Product Characteristics (SPC) - (eMC)
"Nicorette 4 mg Gum is contraindicated in children under the age of 12 years. "
The product insert simply says:
http://www.medicines.org.uk/emc/pdfviewer.aspx?isAttachment=true&documentid=21802
"Do not use Nicorette Gum:
If you are a child under 12 years of age"
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I never disputed that, Rick. Of course they are contraindicated under 12 years of age.
Which means they are OK (or indicated) for children over 12. As per Nicorette Mist directions cited above.
I'm not sure what we're arguing here...
Which means they are OK (or indicated) for children over 12. As per Nicorette Mist directions cited above.
I'm not sure what we're arguing here...
One way or another, nicotine is OK for children provided pharma is farming it out. 
One way or another, nicotine is OK for children provided pharma is farming it out.
Which is particularly hypocritical when we're being bombarded by the ANTZ daily calls to protect the children! The very ANTZ who's guru and spiritual leader is one Stanton Glantz, who received $400,000 from Johnson&Johnson's private foundation RWJF (the Robert Woods Johnson's Foundation).
Geez, they are so worried about the children and nicotine and PG and VG and flavorings...
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