E-Cigarettes are not as good as they could be...?

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bishybob

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Now please forgive me if someone has brought this up before, or if this is actually common knowledge... But I just figured this out for myself tonight and I thought I'd post it.

I was reading through the original e-cigarette patent that was posted on a previous topic. And I realized that e-cigarettes are nothing like what they could be.
The patent actually has two versions or variations of the electronic cigarette. The original version, then the "simplified" version. The original version includes a lot of extras. The description of which I clipped out of the patent and included here. It's not too technical... but may be a little mind numbing.

… an ultrasonic piezoelectric element attached on the outside of the vaporization nozzle is connected to the high frequency generator in the control circuit board; four outputs of the control circuit are connected to the high frequency generator, an electric heater, the pump or valve, and the display screen respectively; a body sensitive resistance sensor and an airflow sensor are connected to the inputs of the control circuit; the front of the shell also includes a cell and a red LED.

An ultrasonic piezoelectric element? Our cigs don’t include that as far as I know. It ALSO includes an electric heater. So two different ways of atomization in the same cigarette?? Apparently the ultrasonic element pushes vapor to the electric heater, which then heats it. This is described in a different part of the patent as well.


Then :

The control circuit is activated by the resistance sensor and the airflow sensor connected to the control circuit. A liquid crystal display screen is also provided to indicate the operating conditions and the times of initiation numerically or graphically. The cell which provides power to the pump, the high frequency generator and the electric heater via the control circuit can be a disposable battery or a rechargeable battery.

-A resistance sensor AND an airflow sensor. Multiple sensors? Also includes a LCD screen that indicates operating conditions and times of initiation. That would be nice… Other places in the patent it describes a LCD display for remaining battery power and also indication of over-smoking or how much you’ve smoked.

The present invention also provides a simple non-smokable electronic spray cigarette. The cigarette includes an electro-thermal drive pump with a metering cavity, and further connected to a solution storage container that is filled with nicotine solution and made of tear-resistant silicon gel. Alternatively, the pump with a metering cavity can be REPLACED by a meter and an electromagnetic valve or an electro-thermal valve. With the provision of compression air or super elastic member on the solution storage container, the stored liquid flows out automatically.


-Now we get to the SIMPLE non-smokable electronic spray cigarette. The cartridge includes “tear-resistant silicon gel”. (The cartridge stuffing) It also talks about using this for a wick effect where it says “the stored liquid flows out automatically”. Earlier in the patent it talked about an electric pump to move the solution from the cartridge to the atomizer. Imagine if they actually included an electric pump like it describes earlier. You could use every drop of the cartridge if you did it that way...


It sounds to me like the patent allowed for much more advanced cigarettes. I'm not going to get too far into the reasons why they didn't include these features. But money, cheaper product and cheaper production, and simplification to prevent malfunction are just a few. (though it's hard to imagine an e-cig that malfunctions more than the ones out there currently)

What do you think?
Again, sorry if this has been brought up or discussed before... but it got me thinking... and for me that can be dangerous :?
 

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(1) Get smokers off cigarettes to a new, inexpensive product.
(2) Make sure the new product is highly addictive.
(3) As the cheap products fail, offer vastly improved products to satisfy the addiction, but at much higher prices.
(4) Phase out cheap products, move the entire market to expensive disposables.
(5) Reward company execs with penthouses in Singapore.
 

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Mihai

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ok, found it:
Translated version of http://www.e-rauchen-forum.de/showthread.php?tid=89

I don't know german but google's translation makes it readable.

they say that's from a ruyan cigar and that it's a piezo element which will make that cigar the only one that uses a more complex method of vaporizing, more like the one described in the original patent.

I am searching right now and I found a few things that use the same effect to produce vapors, some of them for inhaling ... stuff :)


edit: a piezo element is something that vibrates very fast and is used to produce ultrasounds. Something that uses this _might_ use less current - the temperatures needed are much lower (60 deg C compared to 290 for normal e-cigs). The piezo element though will consume some current so I don't know the balance, but as a raw guess the entire contraption might need less current so more life for the battery; the failure rates would be much lower; but it will add to costs.
 
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(1) Get smokers off cigarettes to a new, inexpensive product.
(2) Make sure the new product is highly addictive.
(3) As the cheap products fail, offer vastly improved products to satisfy the addiction, but at much higher prices.
(4) Phase out cheap products, move the entire market to expensive disposables.
(5) Reward company execs with penthouses in Singapore.


:D reward penth houses in sg ..haha
 
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