E-cigs are clean, green, and eco-friendly

[jen28f]

Hope this isn't a duplicate post:

Press Release - E-Cigarettes Are Clean, Green, & Eco-Friendly

Also, just out of curiousity, if we say ecigs are safer, why does that necessarily mean as far as health values? For one thing, they are much safer because there is no fire. You can fall asleep with it and not burn down the house. You can drop it in your lap without burning yourself. That alone should cause less car accidents! Also we dont need lighters to use them so again, we are avoiding the risk of using a lighter. Just something to consider along with other "non health" issues.

 

[LaceyUnderall]

My contention has always been you have to explain what you mean by "safe" in your use of the word safe.

For instance, to market the ecig as the "Truly Fire Safe Cigarette" as it does not require fire to start it and it does not burn, then that would work. I mean, come on, they use the word "Safe" to define a type of tobacco cigarette and that is the "Fire Safe Cigarette" and we all know from using those, that that is a lie.

People have reported their FSC cigarettes sparking, blowing up in their faces, burning at a rapid pace... (IMHO the FSC cigarette is a "scandal" and should have never been allowed to happen).

I am very curious to know which environmentalist said this: "Chemicals emitted from the cigarette smoke can be found in the atmosphere. E-cigarette vapor doesn't." If it is a true statement, it should have been given note to its author as it does make an excellent point.

As a greenie myself... this IS one of the reasons I was attracted to the ecig in the first place: It's lack of affect on the environment, from the toxins released from burning to the cigarette .... factor.

 

[SLDS181]

I still think we need to push away from the "e-cig" term, and move towards "PV".

Good article nonetheless

 

[jen28f]

I still think we need to push away from the "e-cig" term, and move towards "PV".

Good article nonetheless

I agree wholeheartedly and really think that we would not have all the trouble we do with FDA, etc, if it had not been given the misnomer "electronic cigarette" to begin with.
However, how do you educate the masses that are not familiar with them except for the media reports they have heard? Its hard enough to fight ignorance and try to keep ecigs from being banned, I dont want to have to fight for both the ecig and the pv!
Also, it would appear to these folks that we simply decided to change the name of them to avoid the whole circus.

 

[kristin]

Has anyone ever done a video comparing vaping and smoking side by side? I would think that just showing how different they are would have a HUGE impact on public opinion.

Just imagine showing a PV between drags vs. a cigarette between drags - a PV doesn't keep spewing smoke when not being inhaled! And the difference in an ashtray used by a PVer and one used by a smoker (the visual of an empty ashtray vs. one filled with nasty butts!) A list of ingredients in PV liquid and a list of ingredients in a cigarette?

Come on video experts - put something together! (Or I will and it probably won't be pretty, lol!)

 

[kristin]

This is from the American Lung Association web site:

Secondhand smoke contains hundreds of chemicals known to be toxic or carcinogenic, including formaldehyde, benzene, vinyl chloride, arsenic ammonia and hydrogen cyanide

PV vapor isn't known to have ANY of that!!

 

[jen28f]

Has anyone ever done a video comparing vaping and smoking side by side? I would think that just showing how different they are would have a HUGE impact on public opinion.

Just imagine showing a PV between drags vs. a cigarette between drags - a PV doesn't keep spewing smoke when not being inhaled! And the difference in an ashtray used by a PVer and one used by a smoker (the visual of an empty ashtray vs. one filled with nasty butts!) A list of ingredients in PV liquid and a list of ingredients in a cigarette?

Come on video experts - put something together! (Or I will and it probably won't be pretty, lol!)

great idea! with the stuff on youtube now, all the people who do video purposely make great plumes of vapor, usually by not inhaling but just holding in their mouth and exhaling....also, I have read countless articles that claim that smoke comes out the end with the led.

first of all, if there is smoke coming from my pv anywhere, thats a problem. And it angers me that the people who write this drivle have obviously never even seen one in use. The fact that the only vapor that comes out of it goes directly into the person vaping is a huge factor, and most folks dont even understand!

 

[SLDS181]

However, how do you educate the masses that are not familiar with them except for the media reports they have heard? Its hard enough to fight ignorance and try to keep ecigs from being banned, I dont want to have to fight for both the ecig and the pv!

What I'm doing now with all my emails/letters is saying "a personal vaporizer (electronic cigarette)" and then never calling it e-cig again in the email, just "PV" or "personal vaporizer". That way it doesn't feel like I'm trying to distance myself from the e-cig concept, while subtly pushing that it is definitely not a cigarette

 

[Janetda]

Not to rain on anyone's parade, but what about all these batteries we go through, that can't be very "green"?

 

[jimik]

Not to rain on anyone's parade, but what about all these batteries we go through, that can't be very "green"?

That is exactly what I was wondering.

 

[KarateLobster]

That is exactly what I was wondering.

Same here.

 

[kristin]

Not to rain on anyone's parade, but what about all these batteries we go through, that can't be very "green"?

With the alternative being millions of cigarette butts, empty packages, discarded matches, disposable lighters and empty lighter fluid bottles?

At least we refill cartridges and recharge batteries as long as we can.

 

[SLDS181]

Not to rain on anyone's parade, but what about all these batteries we go through, that can't be very "green"?

They take up less space then all the cigarette butts on the ground

They can be passed off to a friendly modder for the recycle portion of the 3 r's

MOST IMPORTANT!!! Lithium Ion batteries, just like alkaline batteries, can be recycled. Contact your county waste management program and ask them about battery recycling.

 

[jen28f]

They take up less space then all the cigarette butts on the ground

They can be passed off to a friendly modder for the recycle portion of the 3 r's

MOST IMPORTANT!!! Lithium Ion batteries, just like alkaline batteries, can be recycled. Contact your county waste management program and ask them about battery recycling.

Thank you, that is an important fact for us all to know! When you compare the space 4 trillion cigarette butts takes up compared to what discarded batteries uses, even if it's just the outer shell, its a huge difference. Plus, if we do recycle the batteries, we can feel good knowing that those 4000 chemicals are not being leeched into our soil, ocean, lakes and streams.

If the vp industry is allowed to go on and grow as an alternative, I am sure that there will be lots of services as the need grows, like cellphone and printer ink cartridge recycling.

 

[Superstargoddess]

I'm totally not a person that cares about "going green", which I have my own whack job theories about, but I like the point about them being safe as far as fire goes. I realized that the first time that I dropped it in my lap, when I kinda almost crapped myself until I realized that it was a PV and not a real analog. Same way with dropping it in the car, I'm all fine and dandy with that as long as I don't step on it and break it while it's under my feet!

As far as the "e-cigarette" thing, it should be called something different, but I am not sure what. I think that saying "e-cigarette" makes people understand right away what it is, which is good. It's bad that it has to have the stigma that analogs do though. However, the first thing that I think of when someone would say "Personal Vaporizer" would be very shady. If I didn't know any better, I would think that would be the name of a marijuana device.

Though that may just be because of the part of Ohio that I am from, which is unfortunately known for its marijuana (my particular county is). Whenever I ask someone if they smoke, I have to say "Do you smoke... cigarettes?" Because I don't think of saying cigarettes for a second until I realize that everyone is going to say "Do I smoke what?".

 

[Lalesa]

Has anyone ever done a video comparing vaping and smoking side by side? I would think that just showing how different they are would have a HUGE impact on public opinion.

Just imagine showing a PV between drags vs. a cigarette between drags - a PV doesn't keep spewing smoke when not being inhaled! And the difference in an ashtray used by a PVer and one used by a smoker (the visual of an empty ashtray vs. one filled with nasty butts!) A list of ingredients in PV liquid and a list of ingredients in a cigarette?

Come on video experts - put something together! (Or I will and it probably won't be pretty, lol!)

The video idea may back fire... remember Vaping is being persecuted for just "looking like smoking". All the anti's will see is putting it to your mouth, the end glowing as you take a drag and exhaling "smoke" (in their perception). That's all they'll see, because that's what they want to see.

 

[Scaralouche]

then do the blowing through a white tshirt thing to exemplify the difference. what, are we going to hide the fact that it looks the same? dont you think people will catch on when they *do* see it?

the proof is in the pudding. or the white tshirt, actually.

 

[kristin]

The video idea may back fire... remember Vaping is being persecuted for just "looking like smoking". All the anti's will see is putting it to your mouth, the end glowing as you take a drag and exhaling "smoke" (in their perception). That's all they'll see, because that's what they want to see.

Bu imagine it in front of a black background - no need to see the person blowing the smoke/vapor. Show and discuss the amount of smoke still lingering in the room with a cigarette and the huge difference with vapor. It would show how much WORSE smoke is and why vapor shouldn't be banned indoors.

On the safety thing - I had a great example last night. I set my PV down on the table to get something. When I turned around, my 2 /12 year old daughter had it in her mouth. Imagine if it was a lit cigarette! ACK!

 

[kristin]

Keep in mind that people,are always about WIIFM - What's In It For Me? Talk about what it does for US and they don't care - talk about what it does for THEM and those they love and they'll care.

 

[california_girl]

I will definitely agree that a picture is worth a thousand words. But, speaking of words....Let us not forget that the choice of words can be equally as powerful. When we say electronic cigarette, many people only hear the word cigarette. And, as we all know, it is a word that is associated with negative connotations. If we say personal vaporizer, some people automatically think of marijuana, as Superstargoddess pointed out. So, I ask you to think about how powerful words can be and how everyone has their own idea of what each word means to them. I don't know what the solution to this dilemma is, but it is something that I ponder on often. What are your thoughts?