E-LIQUID higher than 24mg

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nice one !
well get back to work and no slacking ! :p

Well, fat chance of THAT happening. :lol:

Cash, what the hell you be doing at work without your workhorse cigar? Trying to commit suicide? You crazy. It would be ON me, dude! Get one of them lanyards like T-Bob uses.
 

TropicalBob

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Cashmere, you're on the right track. I'm certain that Ruyan manipulates the PH of the liquid used in the Ruyan Vegas to maximize nicotine intake by mouth absorption. Here's a graf from a medical source explaining the difference between puffing a cigar and inhaling a cigarette:

"Nicotine in cigar smoke (pH 8.5) is much more readily absorbed through the mucous membranes of the mouth than is nicotine in cigarette smoke (pH 5.3)."

Low mouth acidity and a high alkaline substance go together. Cigar smoke is alkaline, so it absorbs easily. Cigarette smoke is acidic and if a smoker "puffs" a cigarette, he or she gets little nicotine. The lungs, however, go the opposite direction. Acidic cigarette smoke works if inhaled, doesn't do much if left in the mouth.

In these same studies, you'll find that a dry mouth is an open invitation to mouth problems. Suggestions are to drink something sticky to coat the back of the throat and prevent it from drying out. That might apply doubly to e-smokers of humectants like propylene glycol or vegetable glycerine. Both can dry out a mouth, inviting problems. An acidic drink, like a soft drink, will worsen the problems of an acidic mouth. It will take saliva 20 minutes to two hours to correct the PH imbalance in the mouth. If a person continuously "sips" a soft drink, the mouth never becomes balanced. Hello, cavities and worse.

Ever bite on a tart, sour or acidic substance and felt your mouth squirt saliva? Saliva is alkaline and keeps bacteria, which love acidic mouths, from growing and ruining your teeth. Another quote:

"Normally saliva is alkaline, with a pH of 7.2 or above. At this pH, the saliva encourages strengthening and the repair of teeth."

This helps explain why cigarette smokers have far more mouth problems than cigar or pipe smokers. The more cigarettes smoked, the more acidic the mouth remains for a longer period of time, setting up ideal conditions for disease.

In short, the Ruyan Vegas, if its liquid has been manipulated for mouth absorption as seems to be the case, would be far less threatening than cigarette smoking and probably e-smoking in general. It would also eliminate any danger, however slight, from inhaling propylene glycol.

I love the idea of the disposable, alkaline e-cigar, but not the price.
 
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So T.B
is that why the ruyans dont exhale vapour when inhaled
bishybob emailed ruyan asking them this question,
why no vapour on the exhale,
they said it was because of the purity of there liquid
bishy wasnt sure if they were spinning him a yarn or not
but there does seem to be truth in it
if you wacth this advert for ruyan YouTube - RUYAN-The New Way to Smoke(English)
 

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Rachel is right, and liquid formula can be tweaked to produce little or lots of vapor. Ruyan's original idea was little vapor to draw little attention in public. Now, the biggest vapor producer I own is the Janty Kissbox using Ruyan cartridges. Times change.

The Ruyan Vegas must be different.

My own e-cigar has always been a wimp in the vapor department. I love the feel and taste I get from it, but you can forget seeing any vapor when you exhale. In that way, it has been a major disappointment. But I won't assume all e-cigars are like mine. Hopefully, not.
 

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well i have some.. 75 carts worth of the stuff.. its been in cigars.. used as it should be.. dripped into both cigars and pipes its now just been used to top up a brand new generic 901 mini i am now smoking..

u lot can continue to guess.. speculate.. watch silly meaningless videos.. try and work out whether or not ruyan are feeding u a line..

or u could give a little credence to the comments of a couple of people who knows something about the jubject of ruyan liquid for real..

or is that too easy.. or is it that nothing posted on this forum is worth anything cos nobody believes it.. or is wild speculation and guessing more fun.. ???

trog
 

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well i have some.. 75 carts worth of the stuff.. its been in cigars.. used as it should be.. dripped into both cigars and pipes its now just been used to top up a brand new generic 901 mini i am now smoking..

u lot can continue to guess.. speculate.. watch silly meaningless videos.. try and work out whether or not ruyan are feeding u a line..

or u could give a little credence to the comments of a couple of people who knows something about the jubject of ruyan liquid for real..

or is that too easy.. or is it that nothing posted on this forum is worth anything cos nobody believes it.. or is wild speculation and guessing more fun.. ???

trog

Who's comments are you referring to?

At least we are discussing and promoting thought. I would consider the people on this forum to be the top experts in this area, next to the actual manufacturers. The problem is the manufacturers don't seem to want to provide specific information about their products. "You do not exhale vapor with our liquid because ours is more pure" is not a good or a complete answer. So this is what we're left with.

One of the main reasons I post on this forum is because of the knowledge and experience of the posters. I like to hear what they have to say even if I disagree with it. I understand that everything you say is correct and undisputed, Trog. But please cut us some slack because sometimes we like to discuss things anyway.
 
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