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On these tanks, you do sometimes have to adjust the juice flow to fit the thickness of the juice. More open for the high VG juices and a little more closed for higher PG.
Underpowered, over-saturated (dirty) coils, shorted/arcing inefficient wind/coil unit or past point of efficient function. In sum, too low effective power for the build or assembly. There's only so far we can go with a standard or factory design. Most media is typically well saturated and restricting flow consequently impeding output/flavor within a matter of days if we dispense with all the hyperbole. If the design or build isn't optimal, it's worse. Multi-wire, multi-coil, multiplies the likelihood and necessity.
The cleaner, tighter more effective the design the greater the need for tight maintenance to keep up performance.
There is no unicorn. Good results require attention to the details…just like most everything else.
Good luck.
The cleaner, tighter more effective the design the greater the need for tight maintenance to keep up performance.
There is no unicorn. Good results require attention to the details…just like most everything else.
Good luck.
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I cannot use any of the subtank ranges because i get exactly the same problem.
Thousands of people use them without running into spitback issues so i have concluded that the problem is me. Subtanks do not suite the way i draw vapour from the device (short, sharp pulls with minimal airflow and a restrictive driptip). I now exclusively use doggystyle RTAs which work for me perfectly.
If you are sure there is no underlying problem with seals etc then maybe it's time to try something else.
Never underestimate the fact that some tanks simply do not work with a particular style of vaping. Change the way you vape or change your tank.
Thousands of people use them without running into spitback issues so i have concluded that the problem is me. Subtanks do not suite the way i draw vapour from the device (short, sharp pulls with minimal airflow and a restrictive driptip). I now exclusively use doggystyle RTAs which work for me perfectly.
If you are sure there is no underlying problem with seals etc then maybe it's time to try something else.
Never underestimate the fact that some tanks simply do not work with a particular style of vaping. Change the way you vape or change your tank.
On point. The ST's are a very airy design suitable Kanger thought for the dry hot diffuse cloud craz that was setting in at the time of intro. It's difficult to adapt to a tight MTL but doable…just not in the factory config.
Good luck.
My issue was my technique. Unspent juice in the airflow chamber.
I use pods now and after 3 or 4 drags I pull it out and take a drag to clear the chimney of unspent juice. With tanks I'd take an 'unfired' drag at times and that helped some but did not cure the issue.
I use pods now and after 3 or 4 drags I pull it out and take a drag to clear the chimney of unspent juice. With tanks I'd take an 'unfired' drag at times and that helped some but did not cure the issue.
Hi Mac!
When I want a tighter draw from my Subtank mini I use Aspire BVC coils.
That said, I prefer loose MTL (restricted DTL) vaping nowadays. I was very happy when Kanger introduced Aerotanks and Emows with adjustable AFC and retired my Protanks immediately. But this Protank 5 that comes with OP's kit does look airy in the videos I watched. Have you tried it?
Hi Mac!
When I want a tighter draw from my Subtank mini I use Aspire BVC coils.
That said, I prefer loose MTL (restricted DTL) vaping nowadays. I was very happy when Kanger introduced Aerotanks and Emows with adjustable AFC and retired my Protanks immediately. But this Protank 5 that comes with OP's kit does look airy in the videos I watched. Have you tried it?
My vaping style is quite varied and across the board. MTL, DL and mixed draw of both depending on juice flavor pref's and attributes of the device I may use one or all of these techniques. If I've built adequately for the widest potential of the mod I can use it for all. The clincher for me was committing to fully wide bore DT's and learning how to use air flow suppression (slipstream) to deter or prolong vaporization (decrease or increase inlet air speed).
Sometimes this req's closing down some airflow but often enough this works. So I can be using a ST base glass or stock and pull clouds from it if I want to. Unless I've built for very high density at low power then I'm stuck with using the tighter draw. Can MTL chain off a comp mod if I have to or in the mood. Just have to watch for over-saturation and take a good pull from time to time. Not a good practice tho as such short pulls tend to crud up things even when careful at any power level. Under-vaporization is our nemesis.
Very rarely change device airflow. Usually it's matched carefully to the requirements of the build, set-and-forget. From there it's either constraining DT draw flow and length of draw. Temp generally very constant with this approach. Note here, a coil requires more air as it gets warmer in the fire cycle to ensure adequate vaporization. If you stifle the AF you will crud up as the coil gets warmer than necessary for the juice flow. Those of you who never test your device's output limits will never know where that threshold lives or understand why you run dirty. We all have our preferences but your setup has its own.
All said, you can use a varied draw technique to reap the most out of the setup you want by playing with restriction and draw vacuum. It starts to more resemble using a musical instrument. And girl I like those flavor notes.
Good luck.
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You never disappoint, Mac. I love reading your posts. I have been a fan of yours for quite some time, as you know, and I've learned a lot from you.
So what's your favorite atomizer nowadays? Do you even have one?
And you'll be inhaling of kinds of nasties, including the dreaded formaldehyde. I mind my coil temperatures and airflow, and I started experimenting with TC. I found it confusing at first, but now I like it.
Vaping can be simple, but it also can be an art form.
Good luck to you, too!
So what's your favorite atomizer nowadays? Do you even have one?
And you'll be inhaling of kinds of nasties, including the dreaded formaldehyde. I mind my coil temperatures and airflow, and I started experimenting with TC. I found it confusing at first, but now I like it.
Vaping can be simple, but it also can be an art form.Good luck to you, too!
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You never disappoint, Mac. I love reading your posts. I have been a fan of yours for quite some time, as you know, and I've learned a lot from you.
So what's your favorite atomizer nowadays? Do you even have one?
And you'll be inhaling of kinds of nasties, including the dreaded formaldehyde. I mind my coil temperatures and airflow, and I started experimenting with TC. I found it confusing at first, but now I like it.
Good luck to you, too!
Believe it or not despite my advocacy (for new vapers) of low power single-wire high density options feel it's best for experienced vapers to use drippers. They afford the greatest versatility and potential for observing how builds, hardware and fluids interact. Mostly I'm using stuff like Purge and Avid comp decks, authentic and clones and 22mm counterparts like Anarchist, often actually starting new vapers with them in lower power config. The power level is lower but temp can be targeted…it's just that the volume of output is less for the kiddies (you know I mean that euphemistically). Step them up from there but the pathway is getting shorter and more direct with a focus on training draw techniques. Still vape DTL setups on ST's and similar but I'm most interested now in translating dripper builds to 2/3-post comp tanks with a view to refine the peculiarities attendant to feed in these designs. I've a bunch of authentics but I've not had the time to build for myself yet for long term eval. Too busy trying to fill requests from others and just way too much stuff out there. Thank goodness for ECF and so many of you good friends to help me cull through that jungle.
HNY and good luck K.
You do know the formaldehyde thing was dubunked right. CDC Study: E-Cigarette Vapour Does NOT Contain Toxic FormaldehydeYou never disappoint, Mac. I love reading your posts. I have been a fan of yours for quite some time, as you know, and I've learned a lot from you.
So what's your favorite atomizer nowadays? Do you even have one?
And you'll be inhaling of kinds of nasties, including the dreaded formaldehyde. I mind my coil temperatures and airflow, and I started experimenting with TC. I found it confusing at first, but now I like it.
Good luck to you, too!
Me and my wife both bought Kanger pro tanks and had numerous issues. Maybe some worked great but for us they seemed to have multiple issues. Burnt taste even after soaking the coils, and spiting/leaking liquid.
Yes and no. It's complicated. If you want to know more:
New studies find carcinogens in vg and pg at high temps, even in tootle puffers
Really? Interesting. My only experience with dripping were those old-school Joyetech 510 dripping atomizers and a Cisco or two. But I used them mostly for tasting eliquids and that was of course years ago. I like the simplicity of RTAs.
By "dripper" I meant RDA. For the least fiddly if you get past the wicking, vacuum issues and avoid leaking a tank's prolly best. You likely attained the necessary knowledge along the way. But the shortest route to that end imo is the RDA.
Good luck.
I'm comfortable.
Still looking for that perfect tank, with a perfect draw and no silly annoyances, but I know what I like, I think, and I know my gear, so I'm good.
I am in a similar boat. Overall very happy -- would like to find the perfect tank. For me, that equates to great flavor, large capacity, rta and ideally one that can also take drop-ins, easy to build with no leaks. Still searching....I'm comfortable.
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