Eagerly awaiting the P3.
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I agree that it's frustrating. In the past this sort of thing has ...... me off, but I understand why Provape decided to do it. Too many people were / are complaining about their "lack of innovation" and whatnot, so they wanted to put that nonsense to rest. I'm sure the number of people who learned about the P3 because of the hype - and are now excitedly waiting to buy one - outweighs the number of people who are so disturbed by the tease that they won't buy one out of spite. As much as it frustrates me, I agree with what they did.
The more important issue of teasing a new product coming later down the line, is that customers tend to stop buying your current products in anticipation of a new model. So its a risky proposition, do you risk having sales plummet due to customers now waiting for the new product? I imagine they must feel pretty confident that the P3 is coming very soon, otherwise they wouldn't have wanted to take that risk. Companies like Provape need steady cashflow and sales, especially to generate the capital needed with launching a new product (in volume).
On the other hand, I guess the only people who would have seen busardos video are probably customers who already have a Provari. But I was someone who was in the market for a new Provari, and after seeing that video now I'm not buying one and instead waiting until the P3 launches. I'm sure I'm not the only one.
That's messed up getting peoples hopes upThe P3 finally arrived!!! Pic below.
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Heh, it was that video that made me decide to get one. Then when I found out the P3 was not a replacement for the Provari and my Spinner died, well, I'm now waiting on the USPS.
I was in the same boat (which is why I originally started this thread), but then the satin silver blems went on sale and I couldn't resist. I'm so happy I decided to get the blem for $130. I'm not sure what the P3 has in store for us, but I honestly can't imagine needing anything more than what the v2.5 provides. Such an amazingly solid, well-built device. I love it.
With that being said, my back up right now is a Spinner v2, and I'll be using that as justification for buying a P3 so long as it's not a dud. But at least I can live happily with the 2.5 until the 3's been out for a little while to ensure reviews are solid, and there's no launch issues.
I'm sure ProVape's financial numbers are just fine..
As for the P3, it's a "derned if you do, derned if you don't" kind of deal.. But as a business, there are so many pros & cons to both, that it's probably net-neutral.. I'm sure they're already aware that they're postponing some business.. What probably pushed them over the edge are the long-term intangibles.. Stuff like, do they really want to be known as the kind of company that throws their customers under the bus by withholding new product announcements so they can get that quicker cash from somebody who buys a V2.5 -- and a week later launch the P3 without any heads-up? Would be kind of a jerky move, if you ask me.. These aren't exactly $50 PVs we're talking about, here...
Keep in mind, too, that this may be intentional on their part, operationally-speaking.. The self-induced slow-down frees up some of their staff to get trained on & build a stock of P3's... Probably also working out some kinks in the assembly & testing aspects before they go live...
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You're not alone..
There were plenty of others who were lured in by that video -- and rightfully so...
I've come to the conclusion that the video served many purposes..
I'm anxiously awaiting this release too. I have a Provari already. Right before the PBusardos video I was about to buy another. But after watching the video a while back i decided to wait. Now I'm waiting for the latest and greatest.
I don't think this hurts sales. Look at Apple. They do this quite often. If anything it helps build excitement and new business. I've seen quite a few people that just bought a Provari say they are gonna buy the P3 too. So it may be gaining double sales too.
I don't think this hurts sales. Look at Apple. They do this quite often. If anything it helps build excitement and new business. I've seen quite a few people that just bought a Provari say they are gonna buy the P3 too. So it may be gaining double sales too.
Or maybe they are doing profit feasibility vs startup cost studies with a potential two year marketing window considering the FDA proposed regulations that were announced, nobody but Provape knows anything. One thing I bet that they did learn from the initial release and pre order time with the ProVari V1, I bet they won't announce anything until they have ironed out all the kinks in testing and production, and are ready to roll them out the door in droves.
Trust me guys, I can pretty surely say that we won't be disappointed by the P3. Provape has a huge following, and the P3 has been in the works for something like 5 years. They're taking their sweet time because they would lose that following if they released a product that didn't live up to their reputation. And the reputation is this:
Safety. It will only operate under safe conditions. I can attest to this because I built microcoils on my RSST, on mesh, and it took me 45 minutes to pulse out the shorts. It took so long because when I fired the button, I had a split second to identify the short before the Provari chip kicked in and fired an error code.
Reliability. It fires every time, no questions asked. Enough said
Durability. I've seen posts about them being dropped, dunked and run over by cars.
Accuracy. It has a reasonably accurate ohm checker with .1 increments. What you set the volts at is what you get. See Phils review of the 2.5
If Provape is going to release a new device, you can bet heavy odds that the new device is going to incorporate these standards. It will not fall short, and will do exactly what it's supposed to.
I would gamble a higher amp limit, a better menu and improved looks. Not a whole lot more. Still single button, and likely a flush 22mm top, or one that interchanges like the futura. I would also bet it's going to have an updated screen, despite the testaments of the durability of the current screen.
It's going to be a heck of a device and well worth the money. I bought an Aerotank Mega for when it comes out, and I'm using it on my E-LVT right now
Safety. It will only operate under safe conditions. I can attest to this because I built microcoils on my RSST, on mesh, and it took me 45 minutes to pulse out the shorts. It took so long because when I fired the button, I had a split second to identify the short before the Provari chip kicked in and fired an error code.
Reliability. It fires every time, no questions asked. Enough said
Durability. I've seen posts about them being dropped, dunked and run over by cars.
Accuracy. It has a reasonably accurate ohm checker with .1 increments. What you set the volts at is what you get. See Phils review of the 2.5
If Provape is going to release a new device, you can bet heavy odds that the new device is going to incorporate these standards. It will not fall short, and will do exactly what it's supposed to.
I would gamble a higher amp limit, a better menu and improved looks. Not a whole lot more. Still single button, and likely a flush 22mm top, or one that interchanges like the futura. I would also bet it's going to have an updated screen, despite the testaments of the durability of the current screen.
It's going to be a heck of a device and well worth the money. I bought an Aerotank Mega for when it comes out, and I'm using it on my E-LVT right now
Whatever the other improvements, I hope ProVape once again offers the original straight-fluted tube as an option. The only thing that's kept me from buying a second (or third!) ProVari is the crop circles ...
I for one didn't understand what all the fuss was about with the "crop circles" being a new convert. Untill I acquired a V1 and held it...I actually prefer the tactile feel and grip of the strait flutes vs the circles now, definitely a personal preference thing, and neither would be a deal breaker for me. I do like the look of the "crop circles" though...and the painted versions are more grippy to me than the satin finish. I do like the feel of the painted surface.
Personally I would prefer the tube be flat all the way down with no accents at all. Flutes and circles seem unnecessary. I'd like a plain, straight, satin silver tube. But I tend to lean toward industrial-looking things.
I was a bit skeptical when I first saw the circles. I even contacted Provape to see if I could still get the old V2 tube (to no avail), but now that I've held the SS 2.5 in my hands I actually kind of like the look of it. There's a very subtle vertical groove that runs through the wide part of the circles that looks great, and the horizontal grooves above and below the circles create a nice symmetry below the display. I also like diamond-like pattern where the circles cross over each other.
Overall I'm a lot happier with it in person than I thought I would be based on pictures.
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VW for sure. Get mixed reviews for what it doesn't have that others do very likely. This comes from a very, very reliable source.
I'm in no hurry and if I get one it will be dependent on price and how much of a game changer it truly is.
I'm in no hurry and if I get one it will be dependent on price and how much of a game changer it truly is.
I guess I don't get the whole VW thing. Maybe it's because I'm a newb, but numbers are numbers. If you go up it gets hotter, if you go down, it gets cooler. Mmmmm, what's the difference if the display reads 10 or 3.9? Honestly, I could care less if someone decided to do a display that showed 'percent power'. I.e. it went from 01 to (1)00. Actually, that's the option I'd probably use for myself. Or at least it seems more intuitive.
Maybe it's because given my druthers, I'd much rather cook than bake. I just adjust low-med-high and I'm not all that concerned with making sure it's x cfm on the gas. So I think I'm missing something here. I mean I can understand VV, but I just don't see how it's any different from VW? I mean yeah, it's sorta nice to have a thermometer that reads both Celsius and Fahrenheit, but if all you care about is "Do I need a jacket or shorts?" and you have some consistent scale, it could be in Klingon and you wouldn't walk into a sauna wearing a parka.
Maybe it's because given my druthers, I'd much rather cook than bake. I just adjust low-med-high and I'm not all that concerned with making sure it's x cfm on the gas. So I think I'm missing something here. I mean I can understand VV, but I just don't see how it's any different from VW? I mean yeah, it's sorta nice to have a thermometer that reads both Celsius and Fahrenheit, but if all you care about is "Do I need a jacket or shorts?" and you have some consistent scale, it could be in Klingon and you wouldn't walk into a sauna wearing a parka.
I look at it this way... I have 2 Provari's now. IF I see the P3 as something I really want I will save up for it...another bonus to that by the time I do save up for it all of the kinks will be worked out.
Plus Im sure there will be "blems" of them offered also!
Plus Im sure there will be "blems" of them offered also!
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