Early death of coils because of chain vaping and heat?

[Asmani]

Sometimes I want nic so much, so I vape at 30w DTL fast, like deep inhales every 10-15 seconds. The tank becomes so hot that the dip tip almost burns my lips. This is the second time that this is causing a dead coil within 2 days. What I mean by dead is this: I notice there is a slight dry hit (a throat hit that feels noticeably different from nicotine hit) at 30w & when I set the temperature at maximum (600F) it only drains 16-17w, while with a new coil it drains over 35w.

I thought maybe I should switch to vaping at temperature mode to avoid the coil reaching temperatures over 600F. However, with a new coil, the tank gets as hot as I mentioned too, even at 500F.

Anyway, is heat a cause of early death of coils, or maybe some coils are just randomly bad?

P.S. My mod is Vaporesso Target Pro and I use cCell coils.

 

[Asmani]

Let's say you've rinsed your coil and it's still wet. What happens if you start using it?

 

[Zaryk]

On drop in coils, you will get a strange musty taste until the water gets worked out. It will dilute out any juice that gets in the coil so you wont get its full effect. You will also be vaporizing whatever additives are in the water (which is why they suggest using distilled water to clean coils in).

 

[Topwater Elvis]

If you enjoy vaping dark or colored or overly flavored and especially heavily sweetened liquids, rapid build up of coil gunk & wicking material clogging is normal.
WTA & NETS are very hard on replaceable heads too.

Most folks that want to continue to vape goopy gunky liquids move on to RBA's of some sort so they can clean the coil(s) & replace wicking as often as necessary very inexpensively.

The whole point in using temp control is to limit temp not crank it as high as it will go.
Most folks use between 410f to maybe as much as 500f. This helps prevent not only dry hits but lessens rapid caramelization of flavorings & sweetners / coil gunk. When the coil gets hot enough to vaporize or burn off the coil gunk you'll get any variety of odd, off, harsh funky or burnt tastes.

Pg /Vg ratio plays a part in how quickly a liquid is able to wick in a replaceable head. If you're vaping faster than the wicking can fully resaturate you will get odd, off, funky, harsh & burnt hits.

Coil gunk isn't what you want to inhale.

Seems you need to learn to use your device / setup, accept you're going to get poor head life or change your vaping methods and or use liquids that aren't as prone to coil gunk & clogging wicking material.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Temp control cannot be used on just any coil wire. The wire in the coil must be titanium, stainless steel, or nickel. All other wire is to be used in wattage/power mode.

You should also learn how to treat your equipment and use it accordingly to what it is capable of, not what you expect it to be. Vaping is not hard, but you need more information as to not damage the vape or possibly yourself.

 

[Imfallen_Angel]

Sometimes I want nic so much, so I vape at 30w DTL fast, like deep inhales every 10-15 seconds. The tank becomes so hot that the dip tip almost burns my lips. This is the second time that this is causing a dead coil within 2 days. What I mean by dead is this: I notice there is a slight dry hit (a throat hit that feels noticeably different from nicotine hit) at 30w & when I set the temperature at maximum (600F) it only drains 16-17w, while with a new coil it drains over 35w.

I thought maybe I should switch to vaping at temperature mode to avoid the coil reaching temperatures over 600F. However, with a new coil, the tank gets as hot as I mentioned too, even at 500F.

Anyway, is heat a cause of early death of coils, or maybe some coils are just randomly bad?

P.S. My mod is Vaporesso Target Pro and I use cCell coils.

I'd start with...

How long have you quit smoking?
How much nic in your liquid?

The truth is, your tank should not get that hot under "normal" use, so it might be a case that this tank is simply not the right tank for you as cCells aren't meant for massive repeated DL hits, there are more "in between MTL and DL" type.

This sort of coil and tank will get hot regardless of you're setting as even at 300F, the heat simply transfers over... and you could get hurt, of course it's a lot of wear on the tank, but consider that this heat is also going to your mod, and in time, that could damage it.

You should consider new options here if you can establish if it's really the "nic" that you're craving, or simply not getting the experience that's you're needing to get satisfaction.. as the addiction is not only nicotine but the oral fixation also, which would include the feeling of the vapour.

Note that if you're just quit smoking recently, it will not just be the nicotine that you're body is craving, but all the other poisons that is not in vaping that you're going to be in withdrawing from.

Otherwise, consider looking at tanks with a better airflow and wicking capacity, including RTAs.

 

[Imfallen_Angel]

you'll be getting water vapour, which is going to feel very different... the water will/can cause your liquid to flood for a while.

Also, if this is a old/dirty coil, it could break down any gunk you have, which you could end up inhaling (not good), or even causing other issues, even short out the coil.

 

[Imfallen_Angel]

About that other tread that just got close, about cleaning a coil:


Cleaning a coil is possible ONLY when only it's still just a little bit used... in other words, a bit of colour in the wick/cotton, but no build-up of gunk on the actual cols.

Does it really work? Nope, nada, absolutely not, whatever you manage to get "clean" is simply not worth the time and material.. (you end up wasting that alcohol and/or other products).

I did several tests with my cCells, I boiled them, I soaked in alcohol, in denture cleaner, have them soak for days, ultrasonic cleaner.. and I had ONE coil (out of several) that I was able to re-use for maybe 2-3 days, and it was far from "great". And that's when I started taking them apart and rebuilding them, which is the only true way to clean a coil.

 

[denali_41]

why not just get a tank with some higher nic ??

 

[stols001]

Yes chain vaping and heat are coil life shorteners. It's unfortunate, but 500 F is exceeding safe temperatures anyway (and I'm not sure you are using a TC capable coil head, so you're going to need to avoid all that until you know what you are doing. Around 420F is the max safety limit, but if you are using a kanthal coil, which I think you are, TC is not going to work. You need to learn a lot more about that type of vaping.

I'd suggest a backup mod so you can rotate them and not let your atomizer overheat, that or changing the way you vape, drastically. I think your draws are too long, and your wattage possibly too high. Your juice could play a role, but my coil life improved DRASTICALLY once I started rotating setups and also making sure I'm vaping correctly for my style of vaping.

Best of luck,

Anna

 

[stols001]

Yes, your vape will taste a bit weak and anemic for a while.

BTW-- My house uses a 7 step filtration system built by the husband under the house. I've always used TAP water, but it is practically distilled water. He unhooked it for a few days, and I rinsed a wick because my kiddo came over and was all DL on my vapes, until I made him STOP as he was visibly blackening my liquid. Figured I could rinse it out, no problems. LOL, I was not AWARE the filter was unhooked (the water quality in Tucson could be termed "Flint like" and it was DISGUSTING. I could taste the particulates and sediment. I had to recoil, rewick, and clean EVERYTHING thoroughly. It truly was horrible. So, I am here to say DON"T use tap water to clean any coils or wicks, it's not a good plan at all.

I am further impressed by the filtration system but most tap water-- you don't want to mix it with tap water. If I was TASTING particulates, (I was) well I shudder to think.

Distilled water only especially if you are going to use it wet.
Anna

 

[classwife]

Merged threads.

@Asmani Let's keep your coil struggles to one thread so you don't have people getting irritated responding to you in multiple threads with the same replies.

 

[vapdivrr]

Sounds like your nic is so low, that you have to chain vape the heck out of it to satisfy yourself, causing overheating and burnt coils

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[mcclintock]

That are get 2 rigs and swap between hits. (I sort of did this with EVODs at ~5W, using one a couple minutes and then swapping, but they're small.)

I think one reason I've tended to dislike most or all tanks is the heat kills the flavor of the ejuice before it even gets to the wick.

 

[stols001]

I could not BELIEVE the difference in my coil life (even over and above not vaping one setup so much) and I genuinely believe chain vaping is a HUGE factor in terms of coil life. If you enjoy chain vaping (I happen to at times) well getting another setup might help a LOT. As might using TC when you are vaping, if you have the means to do it. Raising your nic could certainly help with chain vaping (and some folks use different strengths for different times of day) but there are many, many things you can do to avoid overheating your tank.

While juice, airflow wattage all play a role, I continue to believe (based on my experiences) that chain vaping is a killer. I was changing my coils frequently at the start. More setups fixed that for me and etc.

Anna

 

[DaveP]

Sometimes I want nic so much, so I vape at 30w DTL fast, like deep inhales every 10-15 seconds. The tank becomes so hot that the dip tip almost burns my lips. This is the second time that this is causing a dead coil within 2 days. What I mean by dead is this: I notice there is a slight dry hit (a throat hit that feels noticeably different from nicotine hit) at 30w & when I set the temperature at maximum (600F) it only drains 16-17w, while with a new coil it drains over 35w.

I thought maybe I should switch to vaping at temperature mode to avoid the coil reaching temperatures over 600F. However, with a new coil, the tank gets as hot as I mentioned too, even at 500F.

Anyway, is heat a cause of early death of coils, or maybe some coils are just randomly bad?

P.S. My mod is Vaporesso Target Pro and I use cCell coils.

600F is too hot to be safe. You'll create some bad chemicals in the vape. Turn it down to 400F and play around with the temp from there.

Your atomizer isn't capable of delivering juice efficiently at 30 watts. Take a look at rebuildable atomizers that are designed for DTL vaping or just increase your nic level to something that satisfies when vaping normally. Over time you'll save money at the rate you are going through factory coils.

Is there a vape shop in your area? If there is, go see them and explain your problem. They'll set you up with a cloud maker and some appropriate juice that will supply your nic needs.