Ebay Shutting Down E-Cigartte Related Stores

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brickman7

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It seems that eBay has gone on the offensive against the E-Cig stores. I had ordered some Kanger coils from a store out of Aurora, Co and this morning I was checking my Ebay and the transaction was no longer visible. In it's place was a message from the store owner stating that he had been closed down by eBay. Any orders not shipped had been issued refunds and those shipped would not be affected. Mine had been shipped already. Two days ago, I had gone to the store that I have been using since I started juicing and the only thing on his site was a message stating that eBay had banned the sale of all the major companies products...Kanger, Aspire, Innokin, etc.. I have a feeling this is a result of the sale of the new "dry, wax, leave" smoking products. ( this is just a feeling that I have). These use to be used for {Moderated} smoking, we called them isomizers ( I'm an ex-quilty party)! I had to stop that, too old for the paranoia!

I'm just wondering when the powers that be will attack the internet sites.This has me worried!! Here we have found a way out of the death grip of cigarettes and we are under attack! The government took notice of the amount of sales that juicing generates and come hell or high water, they will find a way to get their piece of the pie. :2c:The tobacco companies and the tobacco lobbyists are screaming about this and they will cause the government to act. I really don't know what we can do. They will tax the tobacco bi-products. If it comes from a **** tobacco plant you can beat your *** that they'll get theirs or what they think is theirs. We'll be at their mercy just like we were smoking cigarettes and we know what they cost us. WE NEED A PLAN!:confused:

AN OLD MAN VENTING!!!!!!!:mad::mad::mad:
 
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Don't all Ebay purchases go through Paypal? I always thought it was odd that ecig stuff was restricted in the US, but not if someone bought from Ebay.

The other thing is that Kanger, Aspire and Innokin are going through another wave of enforcing MAP pricing and unauthorized sales. Even through China shops, Paypal is restricting payments to anything from those manufacturers as "unauthorized" and "counterfiet". I'm guessing Paypal is using a filter but that would tip off Ebay of unauthorized products. If so, that would prevent selling them under "dry herb atomizers" category too. I ran into this with Fast Tech trying to buy Kanger coils and Paypal wouldn't accept the transaction. I had to pay direct.
 

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Ebay and sister PayPal both officially don't allow ecig stuff sold.
Yet search "Atomizer" and you'll see thousands and thousands of listings - they aren't aggressively enforcing it. Possibly only when someone complains? It's stupid - I don't get how they won't allow you (officially) to sell a battery tube, but it's OK to buy a shopping cart full of, oh I don't know...let's say chloroform, duct tape, handcuffs and a ski mask.
 

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Don't all Ebay purchases go through Paypal? I always thought it was odd that ecig stuff was restricted in the US, but not if someone bought from Ebay.

The other thing is that Kanger, Aspire and Innokin are going through another wave of enforcing MAP pricing and unauthorized sales. Even through China shops, Paypal is restricting payments to anything from those manufacturers as "unauthorized" and "counterfiet". I'm guessing Paypal is using a filter but that would tip off Ebay of unauthorized products. If so, that would prevent selling them under "dry herb atomizers" category too. I ran into this with Fast Tech trying to buy Kanger coils and Paypal wouldn't accept the transaction. I had to pay direct.

aikanae,

Here's a trick you can use with FastTech if you want to use paypal:

1. Find some other non-vaping related stuff, and buy it using Paypal.
2. Cancel the order, and get an FT credit.
3. Buy the vaping stuff with the credit.
 

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Ebay and sister PayPal both officially don't allow ecig stuff sold.
Yet search "Atomizer" and you'll see thousands and thousands of listings - they aren't aggressively enforcing it. Possibly only when someone complains? It's stupid - I don't get how they won't allow you (officially) to sell a battery tube, but it's OK to buy a shopping cart full of, oh I don't know...let's say chloroform, duct tape, handcuffs and a ski mask.

thanks for the reminder. i need to do a little shopping. just for essentials. Ebay, here i come.

ETA: zip ties, can't forget zip ties. :p


...........and rolls of clear plastic sheeting!

Thanks! Still laughing!!:laugh::laugh:

But yeah, in '09 '10 they were freezing vendors accounts. It sucked because ecigs were just a fraction of what the vendors were doing. Some got hurt bad.
 

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I wz bored, lol

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Aw phoo, can't read it.
Oh well. It's only about $100! And that's with 6 rolls of duct tape. Hahaha.
 

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A while back I put an SVD and Protank up for auction on eBay. The listing interface suggested keywords, starting and buy it now prices but then announced my item violated their policies when I tried to list it even though there were many other SVD auctions running at the time.

After several edits I determined the word Kangertech was causing the post to be flagged. Changing "Authentic Kangertech coils" to just authentic coils allowed it to pass.
 

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Never sold vape stuff on eB, only here. But I've bought a few atomizers and never had any trouble with the transaction, including PayPal. Most ads seem to emphasize "this is not a tobacco product" - which I think is the vendor trying to assure eB that they aren't violating the rules... I have no idea how they determine what's OK and what's not - but clearly it isn't logical or consistent.

I don't think I'd buy anything really pricey from eBay anyway - the risk of a blocked transaction just reinforces that for me...


A while back I put an SVD and Protank up for auction on eBay. The listing interface suggested keywords, starting and buy it now prices but then announced my item violated their policies when I tried to list it even though there were many other SVD auctions running at the time.

After several edits I determined the word Kangertech was causing the post to be flagged. Changing "Authentic Kangertech coils" to just authentic coils allowed it to pass.
 

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Never sold vape stuff on eB, only here. But I've bought a few atomizers and never had any trouble with the transaction, including PayPal. Most ads seem to emphasize "this is not a tobacco product" - which I think is the vendor trying to assure eB that they aren't violating the rules... I have no idea how they determine what's OK and what's not - but clearly it isn't logical or consistent.

I don't think I'd buy anything really pricey from eBay anyway - the risk of a blocked transaction just reinforces that for me...

I agree, I bought an istick on ebay in October and the vendor sucked. That was my last ebay purchase for ecig stuff. There are too many reliable vendors to mess with it.
 

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I see that you are pretty new here. E-bay has had this policy for a LONG time, and it seems every few months there is a run like this. Everything will be back to normal shortly if the pattern continues.

Correct.

eBay hasn't allowed sales of e-cigs since the FDA seized Njoy shipments...(Summer/Fall of 2008).

What they do allow is accessories and anything that's not "e-cigs"...(including juice).

So you prolly asking yourself why there were 100's of thousands of e-cig auctions all over the place....and why are they still there now?

Because eBay doesn't police their site, they only act on reports being filed by members.

What happens is that a competitor can corner the market on eBay by reporting any auctions that violates eBay's policies, which every vaping store on there is doing.

They can literally wipe out their competition by filing reports.

The store gets shut down when they've had too many reports filed and the vendor continues to list e-cig auctions anyways.

3 strikes you're out rule there.
 
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PayPal had no problem completing my payment to FastTech for "authentic Kanger" coils and mini Protank 3 just the other day...

Yeah, FT is one place where you can really see the discrepancies. There are a lot of items you can't use paypal on, but most of them you can.

And it's really weird, which are which. For example, this erlkonigin clone:
https://www.fasttech.com/p/1909900

carries the notice:


PayPal is unavailable for this item due to their AUP policies.
You may order this product by credit card. Availability varies by country -- please refer to the the check out process.


(Perhaps Erlk complained to paypal?)

But there are tons of things you can still get there using paypal, all vaping-related.....
 
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