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Robino1

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Not sure what my state of mental health has to do with vaping....bloody odd questions

Some people claim that nicotine helps with their ADHD and ADD. taken from the sources of those that make those claims, I believe them totally. The more data collected from a huge group of people WILL help in the fight for our right to vape. I don't believe this or any other survey are put out there frivolously. They add yet another dimension to the fight.

ECF is totally behind our fights for our rights. Medical questions also add to that layer. If you FEEL better after switching, doesn't that put a wrench in the ANTZ way of thinking?

I urge those that stopped the survey to PLEASE finish. It DOES make a difference. It DOES help.

You do have a voice, please use it
 

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Medical questions also add to that layer. If you FEEL better after switching, doesn't that put a wrench in the ANTZ way of thinking?

So if, as a random example, switching to ecigs didn't make my Type 1 Diabetes better, that makes our results look bad?

If you are correct, the survey as written is indeed conflating unrelated issues, which was exactly my concern.

Perhaps it would have been a good idea then to include a question asking if the user has [list of most common pertinent conditions such as ADHD, COPD, etc.] and if the user answered Yes, insert the health questions.
 

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So if, as a random example, switching to ecigs didn't make my Type 1 Diabetes better, that makes our results look bad?

If you are correct, the survey as written is indeed conflating unrelated issues, which was exactly my concern.

Perhaps it would have been a good idea then to include a question asking if the user has [list of most common pertinent conditions such as ADHD, COPD, etc.] and if the user answered Yes, insert the health questions.

Or it could mean that ecigs had no correlation to how it affected your Type 1 Diabetes. How would that make the results bad? It would just prove out that it had no affect on that particular medical ailment.

I don't know why they put certain medical conditions down. They must have had a reason. Maybe someone from the ANTZ is using that for their purpose. I'm just saying that ECF and the survey are really not trying to hurt you or harm the vaping community.
 

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Or it could mean that ecigs had no correlation to how it affected your Type 1 Diabetes. How would that make the results bad? It would just prove out that it had no affect on that particular medical ailment.

True, however if my Type 1 Diabetes has worsened along exactly the same standard progression as the average non-ecig user, in fact exactly as my doctor had explained it would earlier, that would also make the results bad - I used ecigs and now my health is worse! Perhaps I wouldn't want to deliberately add a misleading impression to the survey statistics.

I'm not trying to pick for the sake of picking, this issue has been discussed on the board almost since inception - that one might be cautious and mindful without jumping to the conclusion that every single thing that happens after someone uses an ecig is ecig-related... or vice-versa, use wishful thinking to ignore that it probably is.
 

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I had a few comments about the survey.

I was not clear at times what you were refering to when you said "purchase an electronic cigarette". In my case, the battery and atomizer units were separate purchases. I have also continued to try various atomizer/cartomizer/etc. I treated either of these purchases as an electronic cigarette purchase.

One question asked about how concerned I was about knowing how much nicotine I was consuming. Since I don't want any nicotine, it was important to me to know that there was no nicotine in my juice. But, perhaps you were getting at some sort of count in the battery that keeps track of puffs? If that is the case, then it is totally unimportant to me. Perhaps it would be good to add a "I don't use nicotine" as a choice.

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I am the only one who loved answering all of those questions just because? Even without the thought of it being a drawing it is still awesome to be able to have such specific questions to answer.

No you're not the only one.
It would still be cool to win though ;)
I've filled out sooooo many surveys lately, all the while hoping that it makes a difference. I've not been offered a "reward" for doing it, till this one. :)
 

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True, however if my Type 1 Diabetes has worsened along exactly the same standard progression as the average non-ecig user, in fact exactly as my doctor had explained it would earlier, that would also make the results bad - I used ecigs and now my health is worse! Perhaps I wouldn't want to deliberately add a misleading impression to the survey statistics.

I'm not trying to pick for the sake of picking, this issue has been discussed on the board almost since inception - that one might be cautious and mindful without jumping to the conclusion that every single thing that happens after someone uses an ecig is ecig-related... or vice-versa, use wishful thinking to ignore that it probably is.

I'm with you on those questions, jamie. I have two separate autoimmune thyroid conditions and even though I can certainly breath better, my health only really started to slowly improve after my recent thryoidectomy. Also, thanks to my knees stairs will always be a problem, but it certainly doesn't have a thing to do with my previous smoking or current e-cig use. I used the first space for explanations after the health section to clarify the whole thing so hopefully I wouldn't skew the curve.
 
I thought this was a well-designed survey overall.
I did have a concern about the questions related to depression and anxiety.
I suffer moderately from both of these conditions and did for some while before I started vaping.
I've never had any indication either of these issues were related to vaping.
My family doctor, who has a growing number of patients who successfully used e-cigs to overcome tobacco addiction, has similarly not seen any co-relation between vaping and depression and/or anxiety disorders.
Best regards to all.
 

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"Well designed" referred to the structure and the options given. There are always more things to ask but, if a survey is too long people get bored and quit.

A mantra is "never underestimate the power of people to misunderstand the question." Other than not knowing whether batteries should be devices or accessories, I didn't see that.

There were places for negative opinions (e.g. leakage, durability, etc.) Not a lot of them because this wasn't a random survey. The people who respond all come to ECF. Therefore we are all vapers so there is something we like about electronic cigarettes. In a random survey, if most of the questions are "why is it great?" your results are vulnerable to the opposition because they can say you were leading the respondents.

Like I said, well designed. Bravo (or brava, as the case may be.)

As I recall the questions about regulation were skewed - structured with the assumption that everyone is either against it or doesn't care.

Some people would prefer regulation - of the juice ingredients at the very least...
 
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Does anyone know when the "results" of the survey will be in? Will we be able to see? Not talking about the contest part of the survey.

It will be some time before SJ gets someone to analyze the results, but I am sure he will make an announcement when the results are ready.
 
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