Ecigarettesnational.com Says Claim by FDA and Other Health Organizations Intentionally Misleading

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Ecigarettesnational.com Says Claim by FDA and Other Health Organizations Intentionally Misleading

I like this one but I'm not sure how much it'll be seen. Ideally, it would be nice to see the media pick up this story and give it the same kind of exposure but I have a feeling that it will be up to us to continue spreading the word.

 

[TropicalBob]

I don't care for it at all. The ECA did a much better job with a written response. And the PR newswire stuff is 99% junk, so don't expect anything here to make it to the mainstream.

The ECA release gives us three experts, all of whom can be contacted by the press for comment for future e-cig stories. That's the way to approach this. Bloggers and spammers for e-cig companies would do us a great favor by shutting up now!

 

[Minimike]

All the 'great' responses to the FDA report are fine. Sadly, they will never get the exposure that the FDA got.

All of them are just 'preaching to the choir' if they aren't on the national news programs.

 

[Boom!]

sorry but I didn't take it that way at all and besides 99% junk is what DOES make it into the media.

I like the ECA release also but the more blogs, articles, and commentary that is pro-ecigs the better IMHO!

 

[Minimike]

Mr/Ms Boom,

You and I are discussing this in the forum. Our words are not heard by anyone outside this forum. So far, ALL the responses to the FDA are exactly the same. These great responses are only heard among the vaping community and are not out there on the 6 o'clock news, as was the FDA report. Thus it is all preaching to the choir.

disillusionedly yours,

Mike

 

[DC2]

Bloggers and spammers for e-cig companies would do us a great favor by shutting up now!

WAY too many people responding from emotion, getting facts slightly wrong, addressing issues in a very unprofessional way, and talking about conspiracies.

Many of these types of responses have the potential to do more harm than good.

 

[Boom!]

You are right, if you just spend all your time in this forum complaining you aren't really doing anything but preaching to the choir.

I link these responses (including the ECA response) on my facebook account, forward to family & friends, and try to post these links along with comments on media sites directing people to report the rest of the story and not just see the one sided spin the media keeps regurgitating. I hope more people are doing the same and not taking such a defeated attitude. And I hope nobody just posts "i'm being realistic" because you aren't helping if that's all you have to say.

 

[marlin]

It was picked up by the miami hearald, einnews , newsweek ,earthtimes ,newsblaze , yahoo, google news , nydailynews , abc30, and over 800 other news outlets, including local affiliates across the board.

 

[Minimike]

I believe I am not being clear. Let me try again :

The FDA has released a statement that will precondition the 'masses' to accept whatever draconian moves they wish to make against our beloved 'hobby.' The FDA's stance on this subject is widely published. Whether or not the FDA's 'science' is sound is not an issue, it will/has become the accepted benchmark because we have no effective means of distributing a rebuttal.

Convincing our families, friends, co-workers, etc - is not even rising to the level of a drop in the bucket. Our numbers are too small to be effective. What is needed will be a way to get the same, or more, quality air time as the FDA gets. I see that as the crux of the problem.

The FDA is trying to sway public opinion in order to prevent political pressure. There are very few 'nasty smokers' out there compared to the population as a whole. I don't think we have enough political clout to combat the pressure that can be applied by the 300 million 'healthy' people the FDA is getting arrayed against us.

We must get to those 300 million people - and 50,000 of us doing it to groups of 10-20 will not be enough. We need the repeated exposure on the network news and in the national newspapers to do this. Internal pronouncements (inside the cult/drug culture that we are protrayed as being) is just .........ion and not effective.

 

[DC2]

I believe I am not being clear. Let me try again :

The FDA has released a statement that will precondition the 'masses' to accept whatever draconian moves they wish to make against our beloved 'hobby.' The FDA's stance on this subject is widely published. Whether or not the FDA's 'science' is sound is not an issue, it will/has become the accepted benchmark because we have no effective means of distributing a rebuttal.

Convincing our families, friends, co-workers, etc - is not even rising to the level of a drop in the bucket. Our numbers are too small to be effective. What is needed will be a way to get the same, or more, quality air time as the FDA gets. I see that as the crux of the problem.

The FDA is trying to sway public opinion in order to prevent political pressure. There are very few 'nasty smokers' out there compared to the population as a whole. I don't think we have enough political clout to combat the pressure that can be applied by the 300 million 'healthy' people the FDA is getting arrayed against us.

We must get to those 300 million people - and 50,000 of us doing it to groups of 10-20 will not be enough. We need the repeated exposure on the network news and in the national newspapers to do this. Internal pronouncements (inside the cult/drug culture that we are protrayed as being) is just .........ion and not effective.

You were perfectly clear that time, and 100% correct on all counts.

Somehow, someway, someone, somewhere needs to do something that gets noticed.
A kick to the shins of the mainstream media is desperately needed.

Once the ball gets rolling, hopefully it will stay rolling.
The question is how to get that ball rolling.

There is a BIG story here, and a story behind the story, and a story behind that story.
All of it will make for some good airtime, and make money for those willing and able to tell the story.

 

[jigtg]

Protest at the time of FDA vs. SE & njoy court ruling ought to make the news. It would be unwise to protest the court ruling though but instead concentrate solely on the public propaganda practices taken by the FDA. This would have to be a carefully coordinated effort though.

 

[TropicalBob]

That will be THE critical moment in e-cig history and everything will ride on reaction to that decision. It likely be against SE and Njoy. Not much doubt there. So the case must be made that e-cigs have been used for at least two years, have done no demonstrable harm, have taken many users off cigarettes who failed with NRT products, and are ripe for regulation as perhaps the premiere harm reduction product for smokers.

The goal is to keep e-cigs available while regulations are created and agreed upon by manufacturers and sellers.

 

[NY JETS]

There are very few 'nasty smokers' out there compared to the population as a whole.

There are more than enough nasty smokers out there, the problems is that most of them are not going to fight for their right to smoke. It is not a worthy cause because we have all been pounded with information on how bad it is to smoke. The key is getting more people into vaping, which is a very worthy cause and worth fighting for.