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FisherPal

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Can anyone answer this one? All of a sudden, my Ego battery won't work. When I screw on a carto, it flashes three times and ... nothing. I have put it on the charger and fully charged it but ... nothing. It is obviously deceased, no more, passed on but ... why? It hasn't been dropped or abused in any way. Or am I missing something painfully obvious here? I know these things happen but this battery is only a little over a month old.
 
What kind of eGo battery do you have? VV or regular?

My VV eGo batt does that sometimes when it is fully charged. For the 1st few puffs on it, it does the same. I'm guessing it might be an over-current protection of some type. Maybe a fully charged battery just throws out a bit too much voltage and the thing shuts down.

After using it a bit though, it stops doing it.

Hope that's the case with you. If not, contact ur vendor and ask him about it. He might ask you to send it back to him for evaluation, but you will need to front the shipping fees.
 

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OMG - I'm screwed! My other Ego battery just did the same thing! Now I have NO batteries. &%^$*#(@ ARGHH! I'm wondering something ... could it possibly have anything to do with using the Smoktech xxxl Dual Coil Clearomizers on them? Could they have pooched these batteries? Frick! I'm going to have to buy a pack of ... THOSE things now until I can get an order from someone for a couple of batteries again!! Damn, damn, damn ...
 

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OMG - I'm screwed! My other Ego battery just did the same thing! Now I have NO batteries. &%^$*#(@ ARGHH! I'm wondering something ... could it possibly have anything to do with using the Smoktech xxxl Dual Coil Clearomizers on them? Could they have pooched these batteries? Frick! I'm going to have to buy a pack of ... THOSE things now until I can get an order from someone for a couple of batteries again!! Damn, damn, damn ...

The power required by Dual coil cartomizers are a strain for an Ego. So it could be.
 

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OMG - I'm screwed! My other Ego battery just did the same thing! Now I have NO batteries. &%^$*#(@ ARGHH! I'm wondering something ... could it possibly have anything to do with using the Smoktech xxxl Dual Coil Clearomizers on them? Could they have pooched these batteries? Frick! I'm going to have to buy a pack of ... THOSE things now until I can get an order from someone for a couple of batteries again!! Damn, damn, damn ...

DC Cartos can put a heavy load on a battery. And if you have a tired, old battery I guess it could send it to Na-Na Land.
 

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Thanks for the responses everyone. And thank you, Brinks7 for the explanation that the blinking 3 times involved the circuit protection. I was also wondering if it might have anything to do with them laying beside a wireless telephone headset and if it were possible that long term exposure was causing some issue with the batteries. Then again, IF it could ... I'm unplugging the damn thing and going back to a regular handset! I vape at work and have been laying them beside the wireless setup.
 

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Throw them on the charger for 8 hours, even if the charger says they are fully charged. Leave them the 8 hours without taking them off, over night is a good time.

Make sure you are using the AC adapter to charge, and not the USB on a computer. Left unattended for time, some computers will enter a sleep mode where they power down the USB ports, so you think it is charging but it isn't/

Another common factor could be the charger itself, since I assume you are trying to charge them all with the same charger. Try another charger, it could be broken explaining all of the batteries not being charged.
 

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Throw them on the charger for 8 hours, even if the charger says they are fully charged. Leave them the 8 hours without taking them off, over night is a good time.

It's not a good Idea to leave lithium batteries on a charger unless you are there if something goes wrong. More that couple of burning batteries have been reported on this forum. Especially a battery in questionable condition. That will dramatically increase you risk of fire.
 

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It's not a good Idea to leave lithium batteries on a charger unless you are there if something goes wrong. More that couple of burning batteries have been reported on this forum. Especially a battery in questionable condition. That will dramatically increase you risk of fire.

In theory yes, in practice no.

You lap top, cell phone and other devices all have lithium ion batteries, they are all are just as likely to have the same slim chance, to catch fire. So unless you attend your cell phone and lap top when they are on the charger the PV battery is no worse.

Your best solution if this does concern you is to charge them on a hard non flammable surface. The plug on the top of your stove is a good choice. Or if you want to be very very protective, in the oven (of course not turned on)

Reports of blowing up batteries can often be attributed to mis-charging with a device not made for the battery (a 510 battery on an eGo charger) a non-protected mod battery being charged on a charger with no protection or at a higher voltage than recommended. There are also reports of lap tops exploding, with video that can be view on YouTube.

Commercial batteries on the market such as Joye eGO's offer protection circuits to prevent the battery from reaching conditions where it can explode. Nothing is fool proof, but charging batteries in an empty ammo box in the fireplace only when you are watching isn't necessary.

100% by the book, Lithium Ion batteries should be discharged fully in a brine mixture before disposing of, because a low voltage condition can cause the batteries to catch fire. This is not put into practice very often, and we do not have garbage cans exploding across the country.
 

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im sorry i gotta step in here , please avoid what can has said do not leave them over night , my ego batteries did the same thing and i tried to over charge them , i left it for only 5 hours and i couldnt even touch it to un twis it from the charger it was so bloody hot , some one told me it was the mosfet or something or other in the ego and my battery was pooched , but yah i would hate to see u burn down your house while your sleeping so maybe supervise the charge cycle hope it works for you , if you are pooched i know there ar some reos available on his site and in the classies u might want to consider a mod , i see a nice starter mod in the can classies now too , then if u wreck a battery u will only need to buy a new rechargable cell type bat usually for less than 5-10 $ just a thought , check d guys add or grab a reo with a reo theres nothing to break u can submerge it in water to clean it and theres no wires or electronics
 

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In theory yes, in practice no.

You lap top, cell phone and other devices all have lithium ion batteries, they are all are just as likely to have the same slim chance, to catch fire. So unless you attend your cell phone and lap top when they are on the charger the PV battery is no worse.

Your best solution if this does concern you is to charge them on a hard non flammable surface. The plug on the top of your stove is a good choice. Or if you want to be very very protective, in the oven (of course not turned on)

Reports of blowing up batteries can often be attributed to mis-charging with a device not made for the battery (a 510 battery on an eGo charger) a non-protected mod battery being charged on a charger with no protection or at a higher voltage than recommended. There are also reports of lap tops exploding, with video that can be view on YouTube.

Commercial batteries on the market such as Joye eGO's offer protection circuits to prevent the battery from reaching conditions where it can explode. Nothing is fool proof, but charging batteries in an empty ammo box in the fireplace only when you are watching isn't necessary.

100% by the book, Lithium Ion batteries should be discharged fully in a brine mixture before disposing of, because a low voltage condition can cause the batteries to catch fire. This is not put into practice very often, and we do not have garbage cans exploding across the country.

with a safely functioning battery this MAY be true but it sounds like this battery is showing signs of failure so i think its kind of dumb to leave them while your sleeping and for a guy who preaches safe use of high mg nic id think youd be a little more into li-ion battery safety as well , not to poke or be a jerk but the batteries we use do need to be handled with care
 

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pretty much what wood said, these types of batteries usually do have overcharged protection, but obviously something failed in your battery, meaning there might be a failure somewhere in the printed circuit, the overcharged protection might have been burned off or destroyed, not a very good ideal to overcharge them without watching it at this point. Honestly at this point its probably better to just buy one or 2 new batteries, there not really that expensive. Or like wood said, something along the line of a e-power or lavatube. You can swap out the batteries or any broken parts pretty easily for cheap. Not only that but with there bigger capacity battery they are probably better at handling dual coil low resistance.
 

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Yeah, what Wood and Song said. I'm not so sure the dual coil did it, but they have been known to weaken and/or kill MOSFET-based switches. Still, I'd also cast a suspicious eye at my charger, too. Also make sure that when you charge over USB, the charger is given its own USB line. (i.e. don't plug it into a hub.) Each (USB 2.0 or above) port is generally capable of delivering 500mA. Unpowered hubs splut that over all ports, and powered hubs usually only draw 2A from the wall, which is fine for 4-port hubs (that's 500mA per port) but 7 ports get less.

I would definitely second the idea of a relatively inexpensive mod though. Even if they have MOSFET switches, they usually have a higher amperage rating than lowly eGo batteries so are better suited to handling dual coils.

For what it's worth though I've been using all manner of dual coils down to 1.5ohm on eGo batteries pretty much since there have been dual coils, and have never had a battery die on me.
 

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Wow - you guys and gals have been awesome with the responses! And just so you know ... I didn't leave it on the charger overnight after all. I plugged them each into the wall charger, watched the red light come on for about a minute and then go out and figured it probably wasn't going to help much. Oddly enough, now even the button won't blink anymore which it did before when I hooked it up to the charger. Anyway, it's obvious that for whatever reason, they are deceased. Hmmm ... never thought I would ever go the mod route but ... some of you are very persuasive. :)
Have a 1000 mah coming on Thursday so will at least be vaping again soon but you have given me something to think about over the holidays. Mods??? Hmm ...
 

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Wow - you guys and gals have been awesome with the responses! And just so you know ... I didn't leave it on the charger overnight after all. I plugged them each into the wall charger, watched the red light come on for about a minute and then go out and figured it probably wasn't going to help much. Oddly enough, now even the button won't blink anymore which it did before when I hooked it up to the charger. Anyway, it's obvious that for whatever reason, they are deceased. Hmmm ... never thought I would ever go the mod route but ... some of you are very persuasive. :)
Have a 1000 mah coming on Thursday so will at least be vaping again soon but you have given me something to think about over the holidays. Mods??? Hmm ...

Get an E-Power. 14650 or 18650, whichever you're more comfortable with. They're cheap, take easily sourced batteries, and should never give you any grief about whatever you choose to stick on top. Plus, if the switch does die, just buy a new switch module, not the whole unit. Hell, buy a spare anyway. :) A couple of vendors I know of carry it, and I know the new version is going to be showing up inside our borders soon... :)
 
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