eGo-C Twist Battery questions

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Hello all,

I picked up this cute little toy at altsmoke's (http://altsmoke.com/ego-c-twist-variable-voltage.html)Columbus B&M to use as a back and maybe a "running around" vape, but I have some questions.

I found this website that gave a bit more instructions on how to use it as it has variable output voltage from 3.2v to 4.8. Here is the link: Joyetech eGo-C Twist Battery

If you guys could help me out by explaining what this means, I would appreciate it. BTW, I got the 650 (battery, I think?) How long do you think that will last for a moderate to heavy vaper?

Thanks in advance,
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Hi dani

It's a small, variable voltage battery. Start vaping with the lowest setting. As you vape along, occasionally turn the little knob to get a somewhat higher voltage. You will notice that your hit strength increases. Too far up, and it may start to taste burnt or run dry; turn it back down some. You can tailor your vape by adjusting the voltage upward or downward.

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Hi dani

It's a small, variable voltage battery. Start vaping with the lowest setting. As you vape along, occasionally turn the little knob to get a somewhat higher voltage. You will notice that your hit strength increases. Too far up, and it may start to taste burnt or run dry; turn it back down some. You can tailor your vape by adjusting the voltage upward or downward.

Enjoy.

Ok, so breaking it down to a person with a school age knowledge about vapes, does that mean begin at 3.2 (lowest) and work it up for a stronger vape (4.8)? I light a great throat hit, but definitely don't like burnt juice. My main mod is a SB. I'm guessing it weakens the battery more around the 4.8 as well.

Am I correct?

Thanks,
Dani
 

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Hi Dani!

Rule of thumb--100-150 mAh per hour of moderate vaping (what's moderate vaping? ;)), so your battery should last you at least 4-6 hours.

And on the subject of watts and ohms and stuff:

Disclaimer: This is the most simplistic explanation and is addressed to new vapers or vapers who are happy within the recommended "just right" power zone (4.5-7 watts) and use stock coils.

Ohm's Law as it pertains to vaping is really not that complicated--and it's very useful when you want to know what you're doing.

Voltage and wattage are often misunderstood by new vapers. Wattage is the power (heat, sweet spot) that your PV (battery and atomizer) generates. Wattage = Voltage (of your battery) squared divided by Resistance (Ω) of your atomizer [P=V[SUP]2[/SUP]/R]. If you're not good at math, don't worry, use this easy calculator:

Online Conversion - Ohm's Law Calculator

Of course, if you own a VW (variable wattage) device, you don't really need this calculator because your device will do the math for you.

The wattage you want, especially at the beginning of your vaping career, should be somewhere between 4.5 and 8.5 watts per coil. Anything lower than 4.5 watts may not vaporize your juice properly and will not produce enough warmth and vapor. Anything above 8.5 watts increases the risk of burning the filler in your cartomizers (if you're using them) or dry with your clearomizers.

There are, of course, other variables, like eliquid and JDD (juice delivery devices) that you're using on your batteries. Seven watts on a filler type cartomizer may feel different than the same 7 watts on a fillerless clearomizer or a dripping atomizer. The same is true for different eliquids; tobaccos, chocolate and coffees generally require more wattage (heat), while fruit and other delicate flavors do better with less heat. Everyone's sweet spot is different--those are just very general guidelines.

If you are using dual coil atomizers, things get a bit more confusing. Dual coil atties consist of two coils configured in parallel, which means that a 2.1Ω atty is really two 4.2Ω coils--so you have to calculate your wattage based on the 4.2Ω number--not 2.1Ω--roughly. Dual coil atties require more wattage than singles, but not quite twice as much. They produce more vapor due to increased surface. I usually increase the power (wattage) by ~50% when using dual coils; for example, if I like 6 watts with a single coil atty, I start at 8-9 watts with a dual coil atty. That's just my preference--YMMV. When in doubt--start low and adjust up as needed.

If you are interested in high wattage (and/or sub-ohm)vaping, that's a different conversation altogether--and not my area of expertise. :)

Experiment and you'll find your own bliss in no time!

The chart below is a good guide to safe vaping, even though some think it's a bit conservative.

e-cigarette-volts-ohms-watts.png
 
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Ok, so breaking it down to a person with a school age knowledge about vapes, does that mean begin at 3.2 (lowest) and work it up for a stronger vape (4.8)? I light a great throat hit, but definitely don't like burnt juice. My main mod is a SB. I'm guessing it weakens the battery more around the 4.8 as well.

Am I correct?

Thanks,
Dani

Hey Dani

That's basically it. In a very general sense, at a higher voltage setting the run time between charges will be shorter.

BUT: The point of a VV battery is to find the best voltage for the topper/tank/clearo you will be using in combination with your liquid of choice. And in most cases it sure won't be running it as high as you can, just because you can.

The most basic rule of thumb when using a VV battery with anything attached to it and with any liquid is to start at the lowest voltage on the Twist and move the voltage up until you hit the flavor and vapor output you are looking for. This allows you to find the "right" voltage for different coils with different resistance. And no two liquids will always taste the best at exactly the same voltage. The only right voltage is the one that makes your experience good. Start low and move up from there .
 

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Hello
I normly Vape at 3.6 to 3.8 haven't had any problems with the ego's but the 650mah didn't seam to last all that long
Best wishes
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Do you think it would like at least 4 hours on my way to school and back and in between classes? And I saw it had an on/off clicker for an on/off switch. Does it automatically shut off if it's not in use for a period of time when not in use?
 

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Do you think it would like at least 4 hours on my way to school and back and in between classes? And I saw it had an on/off clicker for an on/off switch. Does it automatically shut off if it's not in use for a period of time when not in use?

As others have mentioned the length of the battery will be dependent on what type of coil you are using (ohm) what voltage you have it set at and how much you vape. If you are going to run at a high voltage and quite a heavy vapour then I don't think it will last 4 hours, mine never did.

It does not auto shut off.
 

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Do you think it would like at least 4 hours on my way to school and back and in between classes? And I saw it had an on/off clicker for an on/off switch. Does it automatically shut off if it's not in use for a period of time when not in use?

Back in the day when options where limited, you could roughly figure that every 100 mAh of battery capacity would give you about one hour of vape time. But since the batteries have gone variable voltage and the resistance options of devices are now many that estimate doesn't work so well any longer. So I would have to say six hours average for a not-fake 650 mAh eGo Twist, plus or minus depending on your coil resistance and, of course, your usage.

Besides, when are you planning on only carrying one battery when out and about? Rule one: Always have a backup - poop happens.

The shut off has no automatic aspect. It's good it's there, but you have to do the five click thing to make it work.
 
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basically it will extend the life of your coils. start around 3.4v with a new coil and when you start getting less vapor increase it by 0.2v, little by little. mine lasted me two days on a charge with moderate vaping on 2.0 ohms but i had the largest one.

only thing i dont like about them is if you drop it a couple times it wont interact properly with the charger and it will be hard to tell when its done by the little light on the charger. also if you drop it the wrong way the top part where the connection is will become crooked. but otherwise its a great backup battery
 

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Well...

I broke this pretty thing out today around 2pm with some yummy Colossus vapor (so rich and creamy, like a dessert) and have been on my merry way around town, to the grocery store, etc. Still vaping it while I'm typing this. I love it. I found my sweet spot with this particular juice at 3.6. SO MUCH VAPOR! I don't know if it's from the juice, this particular device, or what, but I'm in vaping heaven. Still going strong. But I made sure to switch off and on when I was in a store for an extended amount of time.

Very happy with my purchase. It's also very girly with the pretty pastel pink it came in. :)

Thank you all for helping me learn how to use this.
Dani
 

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That battery will serve you fine, however to get a longer charge pick up the eGo-C Twist 1300mah next time, it's only slightly bigger and will last you a couple days of moderate use. I often use that or a Vision Spinner II 1650mah which lasts me about three days of strong vaping and in most cases the 3.8volt setting is perfect for both devices, but that will also be contingent on the resistance of your coils.
 

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Well...

I broke this pretty thing out today around 2pm with some yummy Colossus vapor (so rich and creamy, like a dessert) and have been on my merry way around town, to the grocery store, etc. Still vaping it while I'm typing this. I love it. I found my sweet spot with this particular juice at 3.6. SO MUCH VAPOR! I don't know if it's from the juice, this particular device, or what, but I'm in vaping heaven. Still going strong. But I made sure to switch off and on when I was in a store for an extended amount of time.

Very happy with my purchase. It's also very girly with the pretty pastel pink it came in. :)

Thank you all for helping me learn how to use this.
Dani

Did you say Girlie and Pink? :) Have you found this part of ECF yet? => http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/general-vaping-discussion/323314-show-us-your-girly-pretty-decorated-pink.html
 

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This model is featured in adjustable voltage, you chose the lowest capacity-650mAh, why not buy 1100mah one since you need it for vaping heavily?

Because I didn't know what I was purchasing. It was an impulse purchase and I hadn't read about it before. I still enjoy it, though. I'm happy :)
 
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