Ego Giantomizer shell used for convertible Genesis/CE2

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l3oertjie

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First of all, gratitude again to raidy for inspiration of the Genesis atty. :toast:

Secondly I want to apologise in advance for not taking pictures of all the build steps.

Basically what I did was to remove the guts from an old Ego Giantomizer cart and replace it with a removable "needles and pins" system. I made two plug connectors with two seperate ceramic cups that can be pushed into the syringe needles sitting inside the tube section.

One ceramic cup has been modified to house the stainless steel wick - standard line Genesis
The other ceramic cup has been modified to house a standard CE2 type silica rope wick.

The same silicone cap fits over both of these.

The system does not draw air from the bottom though an air tube. I made three small holes in the heating coil chamber for a more direct airflow over the coil. There are only two insulated syringe needles in the liquid chamber meaning that it can hold much more liquid in a smaller size.

It works like a mule and is easy to fill and replace parts if and when you have to. Not difficult to make and you only require very basic tools - except maybe for the 1mm drill I used - otherwise almost anyone will have the tools to produce one of these things.

I'll have to take pictures of the internal parts when the tank is empty - sorry bout that but I was rather excited to share the idea as soon as possible.

Pic's to follow soon below:

Here's a quick one of the assembly onto a standard Ego battery with the ceramic cup for the CE2 in front of it.

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l3oertjie

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Swissy - sorry it took so long....

Ok, here goes. Sorry bout poor quality of some of the pics - only have my Blackberry on me at the moment.

First step is to modify the silicone cap that fits over the ceramic cup. You have to open the hole in the middle a bit so that it would not touch your coil and wick once in position. Second, I inserted a U-shaped needle from the underside of the cap to be able to pull it out from the tube when yu need to replace or take out your coil and wick assembly. Like this:
Siliconecap.jpg


Second you need to chip or cut the high sides of the ceramic cup lower, insert two needles through the small holes and bend the top of each needle to be able to clamp the Kanthral / Nichrome coil wire and hold it in place. I then use strong sewing thread and twist it around the ceramic cup to hold the needles in place. Once tied down properly I seal it with a safe epoxy glue. Like this:
1.jpg


Next you make your stainless steel wick - refer to many other posts on the topic elsewhere. It needs to fit snugly into the small hole in the ceramic cup. Once you have the whole thing built you trim it to the length you need. Like this:
2.jpg


For the next part I do not have decent pictures - Apologies. I should have taken some when building the thing! :oops:
You need to have two syringe needles sized so that the needles on the ceramic cup assembly fit into them. Nice and tight. The principle is pretty much the same as in this very old thread as well as this even older one. :)

You obviously need to get the lengths of the needles and syringe needles right so that they fit nice and deep into each other.

You need to remove the old air tube and battery connection from the tube's bottom section. Pull out the air tube and solder one of the syringe needles in place. Make sure to bend the tip of the needle into a U-shape so it cannot pull out from the solder joint. Drill a small hole in the position shown in the next picture and push the other syringe needle through that hole. I bent the tip of the needle over to ensure that it could not be pulled out from the top. Once you have both syringe needles in place pour a small amount of epoxy glue down the tube and make sure the needles are more or less in the right spot and say 4mm apart. Wait for the epoxy to set and adjust the needle slightly if necessary. Sorry again I did'nt take pictures. Also make sure you re-use the small rubber gasket 'to insulate the centre needle from the rest of the steel housing. I also fitted a small spring on the underside to always ensure good contact with the battery's connector.

Remember to drill three small (1mm) holes through the side of the tube for airflow. You need to gigure out where since it would depend on the length of the needles, how deep your silicone cap sits over the ceramic cup and how far your lips will go over the end of the tube. They need to be above the silicone and below your lips and end cap - for obvious reasons.... :D

Battery connection side:
Batteryconnection.jpg


Top of tube showing syring needles inside:
Insidethetube.jpg


Next parts you will probably have to do your own favourite thing coiling the Kathral or Nichrome - I like to twist two Nichrome wires together and coil it 3 times around the wick. I do it for two reasons. It gives me the perfect resistance to my liking and it's durable. Like this:
Coilwinding2jpg.jpg


Coil the resistance wire around the wick and pull it tight into the bent needles. I wrap mine around the needle once or twice and then pull it through the bent section once more for good contact. Like this:
Coilwinding.jpg


Push the entire wick assembly into the tube with tweezers and make sure the needles go into the syringe needles fitted inside the tube. Can't take a picture of that obviously... :lol: Pop the silicone cap into the hole and push down over the ceramic cup. Be careful not to push it all the way in or to damage your wick and resistance wire. Like this:
Topassembly.jpg

And this:
Siliconecapinplace.jpg


Test fire and check for any shorts between the resistance wire and wick. Sort out if any. Mine's just fine - the entire coil lights up like a Christmas tree in daytime.
Firedup.jpg


I made a very simple plastic cup to sit on the end - still needs a bit of work but it works just fine for now.
Endcap.jpg


Fill the atty with your favourite juice, prime the wick with one drop, shake it a bit to get the juices flowing and enjoy!

:rickroll:

Nice and compact. Holds slightly over 3.7ml juice. Kicks like a mule. Nice warm vape (I like it like that).
Niceandcompact.jpg


Hope you enjoy it as much as I do!
 

l3oertjie

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Great stuff l3oertjie, and very well explained too. It reminds me a bit of the Ego-C setup. As you might know, I like the 'pins and needles' da best. :) Have you gotten to like the mesh more lately?

Ahhhh..... asdaq, you know me too well!

That's why I made it covertible CE2 or line genesis....... Both work well. I still prefer the CE2 with silica wick but thought I'd test the s/steel wick again. Sofar so good - let's see in a month or so.... ;)
 

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First of all, gratitude again to raidy for inspiration of the Genesis atty. :toast:

Secondly I want to apologise in advance for not taking pictures of all the build steps.

Basically what I did was to remove the guts from an old Ego Giantomizer cart and replace it with a removable "needles and pins" system. I made two plug connectors with two seperate ceramic cups that can be pushed into the syringe needles sitting inside the tube section.

One ceramic cup has been modified to house the stainless steel wick - standard line Genesis
The other ceramic cup has been modified to house a standard CE2 type silica rope wick.

The same silicone cap fits over both of these.

The system does not draw air from the bottom though an air tube. I made three small holes in the heating coil chamber for a more direct airflow over the coil. There are only two insulated syringe needles in the liquid chamber meaning that it can hold much more liquid in a smaller size.

It works like a mule and is easy to fill and replace parts if and when you have to. Not difficult to make and you only require very basic tools - except maybe for the 1mm drill I used - otherwise almost anyone will have the tools to produce one of these things.

I'll have to take pictures of the internal parts when the tank is empty - sorry bout that but I was rather excited to share the idea as soon as possible.

Pic's to follow soon below:

Here's a quick one of the assembly onto a standard Ego battery with the ceramic cup for the CE2 in front of it.

Super ideas on modularizing the coil – I think that’s one of the next concepts that needs to develop – plug-and-play atty. Great work l3oertjie!
 

l3oertjie

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Thank you gentlemen, it's not really that different from my long time favourite posted long ago - I just wanted to fulfil a promise made to Swissy. He wanted to know if I had any ideas to make the CE2 repairable. I wanted to play a bit with the line again and thought I'd combine them into one just in case I didn't like the stainless steel wick.... Well, both are working just fine and is easy to interchange. The nice thing about this is it's not complicated and fairly easy and quick to make. It's also nice and small and holds just enough juice not to get boring... I still can't figure out how anyone can vape on one juice flavour for more than two days... Unless my tastebuds are long gone.
 

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Where can i get some safe epoxy glue ?
I got mine at either: Ace Hardware, Big Lots, The Home Depot, Lowe's Home Improvement Stores, or Wally-Mart. Just be sure it dries clear. Cost is around $4,- or so a pop. You'll get a deal of twin tubes - one has resin, the other hardener, and I personally prefer the "LOCTITE" brand. Seems to be the best - at least for me. I like the quick dry stuff - it bonds in about 5 minutes. I've also used SuperGlue Gel, and it seems to also be impervious to PG and/or VG affecting it any. But the SuperGlue Gel takes forever to dry. I'm not sure why it does, but it does...
O yea, do NOT get JB Weld - PG eats that stuff alive!
 
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