Ego t atty failure and juice?

[kmac]

Has anyone had issues with the ego t attys dying with certain juices? I used the same two attys for about 6 wks with no issues. Then within two days they both died. I didn't think too much about it because they were over a month old, but then the new one I started using died within two days. It just seems strange that all three would have died within a few days, and the only thing I can think of is that I started using a new juice. Has anyone else had this problem or is it just a coincidence?

BTW, I have been using juice from this vendor all along (a very popular vendor), but it was a new flavor. Is there anything in the flavoring that could cause this? I don't think the juice would be causing it but can't see any other reason.

 

[woodman]

Did you check to see if coil was actually shorted (dead) or maybe just got clogged?

I mean did you take wick plate out to watch the coil?

 

[kmac]

No I haven't checked that but the new atty that died had only been through maybe 5 carts of pretty clear juice. Just seems odd that all three died within a few days of using new juice when all three had been working fine right up until the point that they died.

 

[rchriste]

What flavor is the juice in question?

There are some oils that if made water soluble work ok with attys but if they are not sufficiently made water soluble they will fry an atty pretty fast. Some examples are essential oils like orange oil, lemon oil, peppermint oil, cinnamon oil etc... another culprit I've found to be Lorann Butter Rum above 25 percent. If you add enough PGA to them they become water soluble. Some combinations would require so much PGA that your final product would be so thin and so low a surface tension that not even a tanky would be able to hold it. If too little PGA is added to the afore mentioned flavorings you will notice a layer floating on the top of your juice in the bottle. If you check your new flavor and don't find a floating layer then you're probably ok. Perfumers Apprentice Pineapple can be rough on attys at high percentages too. [IMO] I guess there's no way to find out exactly what your vendor is putting in the juice so it's all academic in the end. You use it.... it fries an atty. You use it..... it fries an atty. You stop using it. <grin>

 

[woodman]

Kmac, That stinks. Were the atty's from a vendor with a good warranty? Til the price come's down on these (or they improve) janty's 90 day seems wise.

I'd still take that wick plate out and check em. Real easy just using a screwdriver or half a needle nose prying tube side to side and it comes right out.....

 

[ledouxmike]

Yes, the needle plate does come out easy and to put it back in, put the needle plate back onto a tank and it will go back in easy as well.

 

[kmac]

Yes they are from a good vendor, but two were over a month old so I wasn't surprised by them, but when the new failed it just seemed too coincidental to just be typical atty failure.

I did take the plate off but the coil seemed clean enough. I mean it was a practically new atty, but it's completely dead. There might be a way to revive it but I don't know enough to know how.

I have plenty of backup attys for now I just don't want to be burning through them so just trying to figure out the cause. They are too expensive to be replacing all the time.

Now my new atty isn't working very well after a few days use (I keep it clean). It's just a bummer. I thought I had finally found the ecig to finally eliminate many of the frustrations I've had with other models and too start having problems now just kind of feels like a let down. I'll try a couple more attys but if they fail or don't work like my first couple it's back to the search for another model

 

[simplecj]

Seems to me these atty's have some serious wick problems. Good thing is, as long as your coil is still heating up, you can replace them with something better. I suspect they weren't making good contact with the coil and after cleaning and/or blowing thru them a few times the little wick that was there has been moved to where it's no longer transferring liquid to the coil. First thing to do is pop your needle plate out and see if your coil is glowing when you push the button. (my mod has instructions on how to remove the plate)

Read my wick mod: Simple CJ's eGo-T Wick Mod

 

[woodman]

Kmac, Maybe there's a wick density inconsistency to these and might explain why same juice might work in one but clog another (assuming wick heigth was right in both).

I would adjust your viscosity so it wick's better. What's been working for me is just fill a tank with unflavored-heavy pga every few to do my cleaning and so far so good.

Good post simplecj.

 

[woodman]

Hey, Janty atty's have a 90 day warranty fyi. I never used thier warranty so see how that goes. Prob be new revision out anyway before 90 day so...

 

[kmac]

Thanks for the suggestions. It wasn't a wicking issue with the ones that died. They were working fine right up until the last puff I got from them. They're not clogged either. I've taken the plate off all them and they were all fairly clean. Even the 6 wk old ones. I kept them clean.

I like the idea simplecj but if I have to take apart all my attys and rewick I'll pass. I mean these should work with what they cost. I guess it's worth a shot for the ones I have but this will be just another throw away ecig to me if I have to do that for every new atty I buy. I would rather just move on.

 

[MissKitty47]

Kmac, before you throw them out, since they're crap now, anyway, try cleaning them with Everclear and see if it helps. I was in your exact shoes...all of a sudden 3 down, once brand new, scared to even open that fourth and last one. I did this and got two of them back up and running strong. Worth a try to get you through until you decide what your are going to do. I am going to try a VapeMate, also will try a MAP Tank and Flux carts. I really just wanted the Tank to work, dag~nabbitt! Hope it works on at least one for you. ~Kitty

 

[rsmith76]

I have been using unflavored pg in my newest atty, so far so good, it has been in use for 8 days now with no cleaning. I do blow it out every morning. I was using tobacco flavor before. Seems to clog the atty after about 5 days. The unflavored 36 mg. juice is really not bad. It's much better than I thought it would be and it's crystal clear with a good throat hit. Could this be the answer? rsmith76

 

[jazdale]

rsmith,
Wouldn't it be better to blow it out at the end of the night instead of letting the juice build up overnight in the atty?

I've found that after sucking a tank of pure pg/vg, the blowjob still produces a very dark liquid.

 

[rsmith76]

I have tried both ways, but never seem to get much juice out either way. What little juice I do get out is still clear. With my flavored juice, I could get a ton out, and it was very dark as you mentioned. The juice in the tank does not get discolored either. I read a post on here somewhere about using pg to clean your atty.. For now, I'm sticking with the unflavored juice just to see how it goes. rsmith76

 

[rchriste]

I have tried both ways, but never seem to get much juice out either way. What little juice I do get out is still clear. With my flavored juice, I could get a ton out, and it was very dark as you mentioned. The juice in the tank does not get discolored either. I read a post on here somewhere about using pg to clean your atty.. For now, I'm sticking with the unflavored juice just to see how it goes. rsmith76

I'm kinda liking this idea rsmith. My wife and I are down to 0-3mg of nic on our flavors and if we get them all to 0 then ween ourselves off the flavor the only thing to walk away from would be the vapor. Your idea here might be a great way to walk away from the whole shabang. Thank you for putting the idea in my head.