See I cant stand filler type cartos anymore, that filler taste I hate, just shows it all is very subjective and what one likes another may not, for me its Avids HH-357's,,Ikens i06's,,, Vision carto's and Genesis style Atty's all over filler type carto's. Right now I have 6 357 Attys all going over 110 days, and 3 i06's over 100 days, and well visions carto and Gen types last forever and the flavor is not muted like filler carto's to me.