Or, save the AW IMR for something more appropriate and use a standard LiOn instead... adding resistance just wastes energy from the battery in the form of heat so that the higher mAh is for not.
ego twist mod?
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Using a drop in cell like the AW seems to defeat the advantage of the eGo circuitry that allows nose charging.
To properly install an AW cell (I haven't seem AW with tabs yet) you would need a carrier. A good 2600 Li-ion tabbed cell could be permanently installed in a custom mod with the eGo electronics. This could be a good 'training aid' for getting into mod building (for those that don't care to learn more about electronics).
With the limited output current of the Twist booster circuit the lower series resistance of an IMR cell would go unused, possibly a waste of good 'after tax dollars'
Even the small Joye cell in the eGo has enough current capability to kill the electronics if you abuse it. I wuld think any good larger cell would also have that capability. Several battery outlets charge a mere 25 cents per cell for the tabbed version.
To properly install an AW cell (I haven't seem AW with tabs yet) you would need a carrier. A good 2600 Li-ion tabbed cell could be permanently installed in a custom mod with the eGo electronics. This could be a good 'training aid' for getting into mod building (for those that don't care to learn more about electronics).
With the limited output current of the Twist booster circuit the lower series resistance of an IMR cell would go unused, possibly a waste of good 'after tax dollars'
Even the small Joye cell in the eGo has enough current capability to kill the electronics if you abuse it. I wuld think any good larger cell would also have that capability. Several battery outlets charge a mere 25 cents per cell for the tabbed version.
I'm not a huge follower of the modding threads, so I welcome any corrections please.
If I'm not mistaken Asdaq and rocketman are experienced in mod building and you two seem to accept, in theory, that attaching twist guts to a bigger battery might work? Is this right?
And on the other side, two other experienced modders Willyb and Switched don't think it would work, is this right?
Why I'm asking is that I'd like to put the twist guts into a bigger battery mod, in order to have a mod that does everything the twist does. And will do it for twice as long between charges. Also to change the form into a box that's not so long and doesn't roll around on me. I like the twist and what it does and how it does it , I don't like the shape or length or battery life of it.
I'm hoping for explanations for or against why one could not pair the twist guts up with a regular 18650 battery for example.
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If I'm not mistaken Asdaq and rocketman are experienced in mod building and you two seem to accept, in theory, that attaching twist guts to a bigger battery might work? Is this right?
And on the other side, two other experienced modders Willyb and Switched don't think it would work, is this right?
Why I'm asking is that I'd like to put the twist guts into a bigger battery mod, in order to have a mod that does everything the twist does. And will do it for twice as long between charges. Also to change the form into a box that's not so long and doesn't roll around on me. I like the twist and what it does and how it does it , I don't like the shape or length or battery life of it.
I'm hoping for explanations for or against why one could not pair the twist guts up with a regular 18650 battery for example.
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I'll weigh in as
GO FOR IT
sounds good to me.
Just don't go soldering to a regular cell.
Search for a tabbed 18650 or two in parallel
Maybe even a wooden box mod.
Heavens forbid you use something ugly like an aluminum box from MPJA.
(Willyb is sort of narrow minded)
GO FOR IT
sounds good to me.
Just don't go soldering to a regular cell.
Search for a tabbed 18650 or two in parallel
Maybe even a wooden box mod.
Heavens forbid you use something ugly like an aluminum box from MPJA.
(Willyb is sort of narrow minded
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Thanks rocketman, no worries I wouldn't dream of soldering to a battery at my level of experience. Thanks for the search clues
The original board may not be capable of supporting the current demand
I don't see why the circuit would be in question just by a simple change in the power source. Desired output power is going to dictate the input current. Changing the battery isn't going to make the circuit draw more current.
This is just me thinking, but I would look to hobby grade Li-poly packs. They can be found pretty cheap and often pre-wired with a plug. Just add the opposite sex plug to the existing wires on the board and drop it in an enclosure.
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Why dismantle something that was designed to perform X, and try to make it perform Y. That is the question??? Why not develop Z in the first place????? After all this is indeed the moders forum.
Because some of the "modders" here need a "picture schematic" to figure out how to hook up a Mad Vapes box mod kit.
Not everyone can design a VV mod from components.
Scan the "modders forum" and look for posts explaining how to hook up an LED. Or the difference between series and parallel. Or how to wire up a "Flashlight Mod". Or N.O. vs N.C. contacts.
But , I do sort of agree with you, all the noob, wantabe modders should go to the kids forum
Not everyone can design a VV mod from components.
Scan the "modders forum" and look for posts explaining how to hook up an LED. Or the difference between series and parallel. Or how to wire up a "Flashlight Mod". Or N.O. vs N.C. contacts.
But , I do sort of agree with you, all the noob, wantabe modders should go to the kids forum
Thanks and apologies, I did read way too much into your post about ego batteries being different. I thought your statement implied that since the baterries were different, then the switch wouldn't work. My bad.
On one level I do agree with you switched.
On another level, isn't mod short for modify?
The current 'DRAW' is by the circuit, not pushed by the battery. The eGo board limits the Amp draw and is not determined the batteries mAh rating, tho the Max draw rating of the battery must be higher then the Max allowable limits of the circuit. What you do not do is use a higher Voltage battery then the eGo circuit was designed for!! An AW or other high drain mod battery has a higher max Amp rating (Max Draw) then any eGo circuit. So your good to go using the typical LiPo Batts commonly used for Mods (3.7 nominal Voltage 4.2 Volt Full Charge). The charge circuit of the eGo board is compatible.
I've done mods using the eGo board but not the twist. The above information should hold true unless the Twist is using a non-typical Battery (doubt it) If that Twist Batt has a Voltage reading above 4.2V after being fully charged by the eGo-Twist circuit then the typical mod batts can't be used.
Please read the Battery safety thread before embarking on mods. I personally don't advise anyone to PLAY with these batteries until they've had some electronics primer experience. Things can go wrong when taking apart eGo batts, they were not meant to be dissembled, there is a chance of shorting wire to grounded case while disassembling.
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When that happens it is the circuitry that is useless, not necessarily the battery. If you overcharge a battery, it usually goes BOOM unless the protection circuit prevents it.
well i think i might be the first to mod it. i just had a wire come off and destroy the battery . so now it is mod time for what is left. now it is time to see what i can use for this mod
. so now it is mod time for what is left. now it is time to see what i can use for this mod
Tossing caution in a reply does not constitute will not work. Because of a higher capacitu battery folks will tend to push the limits and are pretty much guaranteed to fry the mosfet, which is usually what happens to normal eGo batts using DCTs, LRs etc...I'm not a huge follower of the modding threads, so I welcome any corrections please.
If I'm not mistaken Asdaq and rocketman are experienced in mod building and you two seem to accept, in theory, that attaching twist guts to a bigger battery might work? Is this right?
And on the other side, two other experienced modders Willyb and Switched don't think it would work, is this right?
Why I'm asking is that I'd like to put the twist guts into a bigger battery mod, in order to have a mod that does everything the twist does. And will do it for twice as long between charges. Also to change the form into a box that's not so long and doesn't roll around on me. I like the twist and what it does and how it does it , I don't like the shape or length or battery life of it.
I'm hoping for explanations for or against why one could not pair the twist guts up with a regular 18650 battery for example.
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Totally agree , but the load will draw extra current trough the circuitry... and the board/circuitry may not be capable of handling it.
Neither did I ?
How many time have we seen folks make a beautiful mod and use a 0.5A tactile switch without going through a gate. Does Missy's Wetbox ring a bell?
If one keeps their current draw under 2.2A then their shouldn't be a problem. Please correct me if I am wrong re: 2.2A for twist batteries as I can no longer find the link. Most? will draw more current than the board can support e.g folks asking for 5A limits on mods, or vaping LRs on a VV device. That being said...
If one was to use the guts responsibly, then yes it will work. The operative word is responsible and most vapers are not, hence why take X apart to make Y when one should build Z
Well, I refuse to fall in line with everyone else.
I change my mind,
It won't work
I change my mind,
It won't work
And I will re-paraphrase my own comments, it won't work for long, but ego circuitry is sold separately and fairly cheap, so can be replaced many times. Just make sure it is easy to get at like here:
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once again appreciating all the replys. starting to wonder though if the eGo is the mod im talking about or some of the modders themselves haha
Point well taken, but don't mistake ego for knowledgeable experience. There are quite a few here who would like to save you some disappointment. While the eGo does a fair job of getting a lot of features in a small package, they are certainly easy to fry. If they keep you just happy enough, you will be back for more.
edit: those aren't my nuts by the way, they belong to sleazer.
edit: those aren't my nuts by the way, they belong to sleazer.
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